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  • John Huheey
    I think Bill s comments regarding prepaid legal services are very cogent. He isn t trying to stone anyone for making a little cash selling the plans, he s
    Message 1 of 2 , Apr 3, 2005
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      I think Bill's comments regarding prepaid legal services are very
      cogent. He isn't trying to stone anyone for making a little cash
      selling the plans, he's trying to alert potential users to the real
      problems that exist when you rely on these plans for legal defense.

      In real life, when you need a lawyer, you don't need some generalist
      who will write a few letters or make a few blustery calls... you
      need someone who is an expert in a particular field, and I have yet
      to see anything in any of these prepaid legal plans that guarantee
      the client that they will pay for expert outside counsel - that is
      someone who knows how to litigate a specific issue (constitutional
      tort, copyright infringement, etc).

      Listen to Bill's advice, he never speaks unless he has something to
      say (like Mr. Ed).

      John Huheey
      Secure Systems Group, Ltd.
      Dayton, OH
      Ohio PI License 2003008162
      (937) 673-4546
    • Vicki Siedow
      Please, everyone do me one favor. Please just go to my website and look at the flash presentation, or the html pages describing the plans. I completely
      Message 2 of 2 , Apr 3, 2005
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        Please, everyone do me one favor. Please just go to my website and look at
        the flash presentation, or the html pages describing the plans. I
        completely understand why you would say this, John, and I said the same
        thing. Because I had a friend whom I trust and who sincerely wanted me to
        look into PPL, I finally caved and checked it out. When I did I realized
        that as a PI I would be nuts not to offer this as an additional service to
        my clients. The thing is, John, that you haven't seen the description of
        the product, so you're operating on what you guess is in the plan, or what
        you've heard on the rumor line.

        Actually, this question of legal specialty is one of our big selling points.
        Many people say "Oh, I have a friend/client/relative who's an attorney, I
        don't need PPL." The standard comeback is "Really? And what is her
        specialty? And where does she practice? Personal Injury, you say? In Los
        Angeles? And how much help will she be when you need a Will drawn, or
        advice on a contract, Probate matter, or family law matter? What if you go
        on vacation to Florida and have an accident, or get a traffic ticket? Can
        she help you then?"

        With PPL you get to consult with a specialist in whatever area of law you
        need, in any state in the US, and most of Canada. If they don't have what
        you need, which they usually do, or if their conflict check shows they need
        to pass on your case, they will hire outside counsel to handle it. One of
        my PI Associates had a matter that required an unusual specialist, I don't
        recall now what it was. They found her someone she was very pleased with.
        I called and got an attorney in TN who specialized in property issues when
        my Dad had a neighbor's tree falling on his house. When I had a CA client's
        ex abscond to FL with her new car, I had FOUR attorneys advise me, a pair in
        FL & a pair in CA, one each on the divorce/property issues and one each on
        the repo angle. Actually my direct client was an attorney, and he was most
        impressed when I informed him that I understood that his responsibility was
        to his client, not me, and I wished to consult my own attorneys before
        proceeding. When he found out I have a TEAM, he offered me all his work.
        Understand, I only had the $17 a month plan at the time. The consultations
        cost me nothing beyond that.

        Btw, as I'm typing this on a Sunday, I just got a call from another PI
        Associate who has the membership. He's in trouble, and didn't have his law
        firm's number. He also has the Legal Shield rider on his plan. He can call
        an 800 number 24/7 and get a real, live attorney on the phone within a few
        minutes. That attorney will advise him, talk to any cops on the scene, do
        whatever they can to defuse the situation and keep him out of jail or
        danger. In our line of work, this sort of situation is a very real
        possibility. Of course for the 24/7 service he's paying a premium
        price...$1 a month.

        But back to legal specialties. As an example, here in CA our provider law
        firm is Parker Stanbury. From Martindale.com:

        Statement of Practice:
        General Civil, Trial and Appellate Practice in all State and Federal Courts.
        Insurance Law, Products Liability, Governmental Liability, Construction
        Accidents, Construction Defects; Land Subsidence, Toxic Torts, Wrongful
        Termination; Professional Malpractice, Coverage, Bad Faith, Transportation
        Law, Uninsured Motorist, First Party Claims, Vehicular Liability,
        Corporation, Family and Criminal Law, Workers' Compensation, Business
        Litigation, Real Estate, Employment Law, Immigration, Consumer Law,
        Bankruptcy and Governmental Benefits.

        Year Established: 1927

        Firm Profile:
        Parker · Stanbury LLP has been providing legal services for the insurance
        industry and business community of Southern California for over 70 years.
        The firm was founded in 1927 when Harry Parker began practicing law in the
        casualty defense field. In the years that followed, he was joined by such
        outstanding scholars and advocates as Ray Stanbury and White McGee, Jr.
        Today with offices in Los Angeles, Santa Ana, San Bernardino, San Diego and
        Sacramento we proudly continue that tradition of service.
        All human and material resources of the firm are directed toward the goals
        of providing the highest quality of legal service at the most reasonable
        cost. In pursuit of these goals, we utilize the latest technology, including
        a 24-hour paging system, to respond immediately to our clients' needs.


        Firm Size: 82

        Other Office Addresses: Links to Other Offices
        Other offices at: Santa Ana, San Bernardino, San Diego and Sacramento,
        California.

        MEMBERS OF FIRM

        Douglass H. Mori, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, October 13, 1951;
        admitted to bar, 1978, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
        Districts of California. Education: Pomona College (B.A., 1973); Occidental
        College; Vanderbilt University (J.D., 1976). Member: Los Angeles County Bar
        Association; State Bar of California; Association of Southern California
        Defense Counsel; Japanese-American Bar Association. Practice Areas: Personal
        Injury Defense; Construction Defects; Civil Litigation; Trucking Law; Trial
        Practice. AV Peer Review Rated

        John D. Barrett, Jr., (Member) born Ossining, New York, February 7, 1951;
        admitted to bar, 1976, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
        Districts of California. Education: Loyola University of Los Angeles (B.A.,
        1973); Southwestern University (J.D., 1976). Judge Pro Tem: Los Angeles
        Municipal Court, 1984—; Los Angeles Superior Court, 1988—. Member, Panel of
        Arbitrators; Los Angeles County Bar Association Fee Dispute Resolution
        Services, Contractors State Licensing Board, American Arbitration
        Association, Los Angeles Superior Court. Member: Los Angeles County (Member,
        Litigation Section) Bar Association; State Bar of California; Association of
        Southern California Defense Counsel; American Board of Trial Advocates.
        Certified, Civil Trial Advocate, National Board of Trial Advocacy.. Practice
        Areas: Personal Injury Defense; Trial Practice; Civil Litigation; Criminal
        Defense.

        Robert W. LoPresti, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, October 4, 1951;
        admitted to bar, 1976, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
        Districts of California. Education: California State University at
        Northridge (B.S., 1973); Southwestern University (J.D., 1976). Member: Los
        Angeles County Bar Association; State Bar of California; Association of
        Southern California Defense Counsel; American Board of Trial Advocates;
        Federation of Defense and Corproate Counsel. (Also at Phoenix, Arizona,
        Sacramento and Santa Ana Offices). Practice Areas: Personal Injury Defense;
        Construction Defects; Civil Litigation; Trial Practice. AV Peer Review Rated


        Ronald L. Smith, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, March 2, 1954;
        admitted to bar, 1980, California; U.S. District Court, Southern and Central
        Districts of California. Education: University of California at Los Angeles
        (B.A., 1976); Southwestern University (J.D., 1980). Member: Los Angeles
        County Bar Association; State Bar of California; Association of Southern
        California Defense Counsel; American Prepaid Legal Services Institute.
        Practice Areas: Construction Defects; Toxic Tort Defense; Civil Litigation.


        Graham J. Baldwin, (Member) (San Bernardino Office).

        Timothy D. Lucas, (Member) (San Diego Office).

        J. Luis Garcia, (Member) born Los Angeles, California, July 29, 1959;
        admitted to bar, 1986, California; U.S. District Court, Central District of
        California. Education: University of Southern California (B.A., cum laude,
        1981); Loyola Marymount University (J.D., 1984). Chairman, Social Services
        Commission, City of Whittier. Member: Los Angeles County and
        Mexican-American Bar Associations; State Bar of California. Languages:
        Spanish. Practice Areas: Automobile Accidents and Injuries; Civil
        Litigation; Employment Litigation.




        Vicki Siedow
        Siedow & Associates Investigations
        & Custom Legal Support Services
        2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
        La Crescenta (Los Angeles area), CA 91214
        818-242-0130
        800-448-6431
        818-688-3295 fax
        Siedow@...
        http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
        CA Lic. PI #22852
        Member NCISS
        Need economical legal help?
        http://AreYouProtectedYet.com


        -----Original Message-----
        From: John Huheey [mailto:JHuheey@...]
        Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:21 AM
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        Subject: [infoguys-list] Prepaid Legal Services


        I think Bill's comments regarding prepaid legal services are very cogent.
        He isn't trying to stone anyone for making a little cash selling the plans,
        he's trying to alert potential users to the real problems that exist when
        you rely on these plans for legal defense.

        In real life, when you need a lawyer, you don't need some generalist who
        will write a few letters or make a few blustery calls... you need someone
        who is an expert in a particular field, and I have yet to see anything in
        any of these prepaid legal plans that guarantee the client that they will
        pay for expert outside counsel - that is someone who knows how to litigate a
        specific issue (constitutional tort, copyright infringement, etc).

        Listen to Bill's advice, he never speaks unless he has something to say
        (like Mr. Ed).

        John Huheey
        Secure Systems Group, Ltd.
        Dayton, OH
        Ohio PI License 2003008162
        (937) 673-4546

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