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RE: [infoguys-list] Unbelievable -- David v Goliath and I'm bettin on David again

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  • Jim Parker
    Message 1 of 6 , Apr 1 12:45 PM
      <<< I am taking the liberty of forwarding this link to one of the finest
      legal minds I've ever dealt with --- His name? J Grahame Bell -- and he is
      a nephew of A. Grahame Bell >>>

      Awesome!! It will be interesting to hear what he has to say on this issue.


      <<< seem that the Scottish Laird (Lord) Ronald McDonald and Head of Clan
      McDonald (true.. and he is NOT clown) was the ONLY person under English Law
      entitled to rule on whether or not a person place or thing can bear the name
      "McDonald" ... since at the Castle HE served a "McDonald's Breakfast" >>>


      Wellllll.... It's kinda, sorta true.

      I'm from Scotland, and can tell you that the head of the McDonald clan is
      not Ronald McDonald. Ronald McDonald is a retired schoolteacher from
      Aberdeen who is displeased he has to share his name with the clown who
      promotes the McDonalds burger chain.

      The Rt. Hon. Godfrey James Macdonald, 8th Lord MacDonald, is the current
      head of the Donald clan and lives at Kinloch Lodge, a hotel he runs with his
      wife (Claire McDonald) on the Isle of Skye. The seat of the Donald clan
      since 1790 (Armadale Castle) was abandoned in 1925. It's currently
      unoccupied.

      He did, however seek assurances from the McDonalds corporation that any
      business in Scotland could use the name McDonald without fear of lawsuits.

      It's still a good story though.

      Jim

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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Ryugen C Fisher [mailto:mycroft@...]
      Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:54 PM
      To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
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      TheProfessionalPI@yahoogroups.com; ASPI-members@yahoogroups.com; JGrahame
      Bell
      Subject: Re: [infoguys-list] Unbelievable -- David v Goliath and I'm bettin
      on David again




      Bill --- I am taking the liberty of forwarding this link to one of the
      finest legal minds I've ever dealt with --- he is is Washington State and
      semi-retired but might have a few words to say on the subject and QWEST's
      position that the name/word "BELL" is their property

      His name? J Grahame Bell -- and he is a nephew of A. Grahame Bell

      Reminds me of a suit in England a few years ago .. McDonald's Corp was suing
      one and all for the use of the word McDonald's (as in McDonald's
      Tea Shoppe and Crumpets - small local establishment) -- turns out to
      have been a "bad move" seem that the Scottish Laird (Lord) Ronald McDonald
      and Head of Clan McDonald (true.. and he is NOT clown) was the ONLY person
      under English Law entitled to rule on whether or not a person place or thing
      can bear the name "McDonald" --- in a statement to the BBC, he suggested
      that rather than pick on small businesses, the McDonald Corp come after him
      ... since at the Castle HE served a "McDonald's Breakfast" -- as I recall,
      there was no comment from the hamburger folks and the other suits were
      dispatched by the English legal system, where common sense still seems to
      have a small part to play



      oracleintl@... wrote:

      >
      >Many of you may know Ma-Bell Michelle; she could sure use a kind word,
      >or a lttle encouragement if anyone could spare the time to look what
      >is happening to her and comment.
      >
      >http://www.newinvestigator.com/news/yontef/
      >(http://www.newinvestigator.com/news/yontef/)
      >
      >
      >
      >If you read that Complaint, it is such an incredible crock . . . if they
      >tried that on anyone who could afford a lawyer, they'd wear it home.
      >
      >As Momma used to say, "Tain't smart to bully girls and little boys - if'n
      ya
      >whup 'em, yer just a bully, but if'n they whup you, ya gotta leave town."
      >
      >
      >Bill E. Branscum, Investigator
      >Oracle International
      >www.FraudsAndScams.com
      >www.OracleInternational.com
      >PO Box 10728
      >Naples, FL 34101
      >(239) 304-1639
      >(239) 304-1640 Fax
      >Illegitimi non carborundum
      >
      >
      >
      >







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    • Ryugen C Fisher
      I guess I got the Reader s Digest version ... most of the fact in almost the correct order .... was on 60 Minutes as I recall thanks for the clarification and
      Message 2 of 6 , Apr 1 3:07 PM
        I guess I got the Reader's Digest version ... most of the fact in almost
        the correct order .... was on 60 Minutes as I recall

        thanks for the clarification and correction

        Jim Parker wrote:

        ><<< I am taking the liberty of forwarding this link to one of the finest
        >legal minds I've ever dealt with --- His name? J Grahame Bell -- and he is
        >a nephew of A. Grahame Bell >>>
        >
        >Awesome!! It will be interesting to hear what he has to say on this issue.
        >
        >
        ><<< seem that the Scottish Laird (Lord) Ronald McDonald and Head of Clan
        >McDonald (true.. and he is NOT clown) was the ONLY person under English Law
        >entitled to rule on whether or not a person place or thing can bear the name
        >"McDonald" ... since at the Castle HE served a "McDonald's Breakfast" >>>
        >
        >
        >Wellllll.... It's kinda, sorta true.
        >
        >I'm from Scotland, and can tell you that the head of the McDonald clan is
        >not Ronald McDonald. Ronald McDonald is a retired schoolteacher from
        >Aberdeen who is displeased he has to share his name with the clown who
        >promotes the McDonalds burger chain.
        >
        >The Rt. Hon. Godfrey James Macdonald, 8th Lord MacDonald, is the current
        >head of the Donald clan and lives at Kinloch Lodge, a hotel he runs with his
        >wife (Claire McDonald) on the Isle of Skye. The seat of the Donald clan
        >since 1790 (Armadale Castle) was abandoned in 1925. It's currently
        >unoccupied.
        >
        >He did, however seek assurances from the McDonalds corporation that any
        >business in Scotland could use the name McDonald without fear of lawsuits.
        >
        >It's still a good story though.
        >
        >Jim
        >
        >=================
        >
        >JIM PARKER - Chief Investigator
        >Email Tracing & Internet Fraud Specialist.
        >Axis Investigative Services, Inc. (FL)
        >Web: http://www.FloridaDetectives.com
        >Email: Jim@...
        >Florida License #: A-2000163
        >
        >Director / Team Member of MissingKIN
        >"Dedicated to finding missing and abducted children"
        >Web: http://www.MissingKIN.com
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >-----Original Message-----
        >From: Ryugen C Fisher [mailto:mycroft@...]
        >Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:54 PM
        >To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
        >Cc: New_Investigator@yahoogroups.com; 1811@yahoogroups.com;
        >FraudsAndScams@yahoogroups.com; Psy-CJ-Law@yahoogroups.com;
        >TheProfessionalPI@yahoogroups.com; ASPI-members@yahoogroups.com; JGrahame
        >Bell
        >Subject: Re: [infoguys-list] Unbelievable -- David v Goliath and I'm bettin
        >on David again
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >Bill --- I am taking the liberty of forwarding this link to one of the
        >finest legal minds I've ever dealt with --- he is is Washington State and
        >semi-retired but might have a few words to say on the subject and QWEST's
        >position that the name/word "BELL" is their property
        >
        >His name? J Grahame Bell -- and he is a nephew of A. Grahame Bell
        >
        >Reminds me of a suit in England a few years ago .. McDonald's Corp was suing
        >one and all for the use of the word McDonald's (as in McDonald's
        >Tea Shoppe and Crumpets - small local establishment) -- turns out to
        >have been a "bad move" seem that the Scottish Laird (Lord) Ronald McDonald
        >and Head of Clan McDonald (true.. and he is NOT clown) was the ONLY person
        >under English Law entitled to rule on whether or not a person place or thing
        >can bear the name "McDonald" --- in a statement to the BBC, he suggested
        >that rather than pick on small businesses, the McDonald Corp come after him
        >... since at the Castle HE served a "McDonald's Breakfast" -- as I recall,
        >there was no comment from the hamburger folks and the other suits were
        >dispatched by the English legal system, where common sense still seems to
        >have a small part to play
        >
        >
        >
        >oracleintl@... wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        >>Many of you may know Ma-Bell Michelle; she could sure use a kind word,
        >>or a lttle encouragement if anyone could spare the time to look what
        >>is happening to her and comment.
        >>
        >>http://www.newinvestigator.com/news/yontef/
        >>(http://www.newinvestigator.com/news/yontef/)
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>If you read that Complaint, it is such an incredible crock . . . if they
        >>tried that on anyone who could afford a lawyer, they'd wear it home.
        >>
        >>As Momma used to say, "Tain't smart to bully girls and little boys - if'n
        >>
        >>
        >ya
        >
        >
        >>whup 'em, yer just a bully, but if'n they whup you, ya gotta leave town."
        >>
        >>
        >>Bill E. Branscum, Investigator
        >>Oracle International
        >>www.FraudsAndScams.com
        >>www.OracleInternational.com
        >>PO Box 10728
        >>Naples, FL 34101
        >>(239) 304-1639
        >>(239) 304-1640 Fax
        >>Illegitimi non carborundum
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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      • Ryugen C Fisher
        Jim Parker et al: I apologize for violating one of my own rules -- I didn t check the facts ( twas 1996 fer Gawd Sakes man) -- did the research, and you, Jim,
        Message 3 of 6 , Apr 1 3:52 PM
          Jim Parker et al:

          I apologize for violating one of my own rules -- I didn't check the
          facts ('twas 1996 fer Gawd Sakes man) -- did the research, and you,
          Jim, remembered better than I did

          succinctly:
          # McDonald's threatened the owner of a UK sandwich bar called "McMunchies"
          with legal action for breach of trademark. A retired Scottish
          school-teacher called Ronald McDonald, and the chief of the McDonald
          clan in Scotland were both outraged at this further attempt by
          McDonald's to claim global dominion over the prefix "Mc" and the name
          "McDonald" which has been an Irish and Scottish family name for centuries.

          Having said that -- my version was more fun to tell ....
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