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RE: [infoguys-list] Source of Revenue for PIs?

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  • Vicki Siedow
    Interesting ideas, Brian. And from someone up so early on a Sunday morning! I saw one of those signs a few weeks ago on a vehicle that was being driven very
    Message 1 of 2 , May 30, 2004
      Interesting ideas, Brian. And from someone up so early on a Sunday morning!

      I saw one of those signs a few weeks ago on a vehicle that was being driven
      very badly. The driver just laughed and flipped me off when he saw me
      trying to write down the number to call. I also got his cab & plate
      numbers, a physical description and even his last delivery stop. It turned
      out that he had altered the 800 number to phone to report his bad driving.
      I managed to figure out what the number should have been, and report him
      anyway. I suppose he had some 'splainin' to do. It sounds like the calls
      are answered by a separate company that does just that. I imagine that the
      thing to do would be to bypass them and go straight to the company whose
      name is on the truck, offering to follow up on the reports.


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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Taylor [mailto:betaylor@...]
      Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 6:34 AM
      To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [infoguys-list] Source of Revenue for PIs?

      Good morning, all - hope your holiday is a good one! Forgive a somewhat
      lengthy post.

      I'm a certified safety auditor and was doing some LexisNexis work today when
      I wandered down a research path that suddenly suggested a source of revenues
      for PIs as I came across a number of references to the growing concern about
      rising insurance premiums and bad employee-drivers. Interestingly, these
      people are often not "picked up" by drug testing - they're just bad drivers,
      and only *observation* will pick this up prior to the big accident.

      Now, we've all seen the "How's My Driving?" signs on some vehicles. This is
      exactly the principle - counting on the public to do "surveillance" of your
      drivers (and also hoping the sign itself will cause the driver to drive
      carefully, but we know how human nature is...).

      I don't think this, nor driver surveillance, have been nearly exploited
      fully, especially by companies who only have local drivers. The question
      is, what do companies do once they have received a complaint? They cannot
      simply act on it, unsubstantiated - the legal liability would be huge.

      1. When you see a "how's my driving?" sign on a vehicle for a local
      firm....contact them and ask the question I just asked - what do they do
      when they get a complaint? Why of course, they call you, the specialist!
      Offer to investigate (surveillance) complaints they receive from their
      800-number service company. A five-minute video of the bad behavior (get a
      stabilizing cam since you shoot this on the move, obviously) and bada-bing,
      bada-boom...employer can take action.

      And it's always nice to have a kicker - make the observation to the prospect
      that while you're conducting driving surveillance, you are naturally seeing
      lots more than just driving - did he just drop off a box of auto parts at
      his house?

      2. For any other firms who have people driving company vehicles (or their
      own cars when on business) locally, why not set up your own call-in number
      (stickers for the vehicles are pretty cheap) and also offer driver
      surveillance as above, in addition to doing full driver's record and
      insurance checks of course.

      3. Team up with a drug-testing firm to add that to your package. Sure,
      these firms market their services directly, but partnerships always offer
      intriguing new possibilities. Be sure the firm you use is DOT-compliant.

      4. Remember that every time you sit down in front of a prospect on a
      special offer like this, it's entirely possible that he will bring up some
      other problem he's having - internal theft, etc - so you'll want to mention
      that this is a service you offer "as part of our full slate of
      employment-related services".

      Hope this triggers some ideas!

      Cheers - and stay SAFE this weekend!

      Brian Taylor, CSA
      Community Safety Services
      Marysville, WA 98270
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