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    (http://conservativebyte.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Holder.jpg) Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and
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      Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco,
      Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and
      Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.
      In Fast and Furious, ATF secretly encouraged gun dealers to sell to
      suspected traffickers for Mexican drug cartels to go after the “big fish.” But
      ATF whistleblowers told CBS News and Congress it was a dangerous practice
      called “gunwalking,” and it put thousands of weapons on the street. Many were
      used in violent crimes in Mexico. Two were found at the murder scene of a
      U.S. Border Patrol agent.
      So you remember Fast and Furious. This is where we arranged for thousands
      of guns, long guns, automatic, semiautomatic, AK-47s, machine guns,
      bazookas, whatever, to end up in the hands of drug lords, right out of gun stores,
      gun shops in Phoenix, just walked outta there right across the border into
      Mexico, into the hands of the drug cartel and the cartel was supposed to do
      with those guns what drug cartel people do, start using them, bam, bam, you
      ’re dead. They did. Hundreds of people died as a result of these guns
      being walked out of Phoenix gun shops and others along the border. And in this
      period of time a border agent got killed. So when attention was brought to
      bear on this, I said, “Well, it’s clear what this is all about. Who do we
      have in the White House? We have a quasi-liberal socialist Marxist. What do
      they hate? They hate citizens having guns. They hate the Second Amendment.”

      It took me a split second to understand what this was all about. They have
      lost the gun control argument. In presidential debates they don’t dare
      bring it up, they have lost it, the left has lost the gun control argument,
      just like they’ve lost the abortion argument. But that doesn’t mean they go
      away, they never accept defeat. Okay, so let’s engineer a program where the
      baddest of bad guys get hold of American guns easily because we essentially
      give them to them, but we don’t tell anybody that. We make it look like
      the drug cartel could just cross the border, walk in there and buy ‘em and
      walk back across the border or really rotten Americans could walk into the
      gun stores, buy those guns, go to Mexico and sell them to the drug cartel.
      Yes, evil Americans could, and then people would die, and the conclusion is
      supposed to be, “See, we have got to have more control over guns. Look at
      what happened here.” That was the plan. Backfired. Sharyl Attkisson with
      repeated random act of journalism after random act of journalism has been
      doggedly following this story and her latest report on the Early Show on CBS
      today featured this. One of the hostettes said, “Some officials originally
      discussed using the gun walking case to press for new gun regulations?”
      ATTKISSON: That’s right. New e-mails that we have add to some documentation
      that we already had that show government officials never planned to reveal
      publicly their role in letting those guns fall into the hands of Mexican
      drug cartels but planned to use the end result to argue for new gun
      regulations that they wanted, and you can read more about that story on our
      website, CBSNews.com.
      RUSH: Which we’ve done and we’ve read the e-mails, and Sharyl Attkisson is
      exactly correct, exactly right. It’s exactly what this program was all
      about, to a T. Another El Rushbo bull’s-eye. Precisely what it was all about.
      So now they’ve got Holder up there, and they’re asking him about this.
      Before we get to that, back in 2009, this is in Mexico City, Obama and the
      Mexican President Felipe Calderon held a joint press conference. This is a
      portion of what Obama said back in April of 2009.
      OBAMA: This war is being waged with guns purchased not here, but in the
      United States. More than 90% of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the
      United States, many from gun shops that line our shared border. So we have
      responsibilities as well.
      RUSH: Damn right. It’s your program. So you go to Mexico after instituting
      this program with Eric Holder, you engineer these guns walking across the
      border, you engineer it, then you go to Mexico and you point out how
      horrible it is these guns actually came from the United States. It was all part of
      an Obama scam. This is who liberals are. Don’t ever doubt yourself or me.
      RUSH: (I redacted commercial stuff) Folks, during the break here, I
      actually was setting here. I am so enraged at Obama, and I"m asking myself,
      "What's the most effective way to express it to people without it arousing
      sympathy for this poor schlub or without people mad at me?" But I can't tell
      you. I literally cannot describe. It would require profanity for me to
      accurately tell you what I think of this and what -- what he's done, what he's
      continuing to do. It infuriates me, beyond my ability to express it, and this
      fast and Furious? There he is down there in Mexico apologizing?
      He set this whole thing up and he has no clue? He doesn't know what it's
      about? Holder doesn't know what it's about? Holder, the first memos were
      lies, this is past the most corrupt administration that we have had in my
      lifetime, and I'm including Nixon in this. Nixon was a piker! Nixon could only
      dream of this kind of stuff because Nixon never had the media covering up
      for him. But I'm telling you this is bad! It really was. I'm a master
      communicator here and I'm stymied in trying to convey the depth of my outrage over
      what's happening to this country, right out in front of everyone. What
      benefit from Fast and Furious? Look, let's go to the audio sound bites. Get
      benefits? Okay. So it's up on Capitol Hill, same Capitol Hill where _Corzine_
      (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/12/08/corzine_goes_greasy) said,
      "I have no idea where the money is!" James Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin, said,
      "Since it's obvious that there was knowledge within the justice department
      about Fast and Furious, you all knew what you were doing. What are you gonna
      do to clean up the mess?"
      HOLDER: Lemme make something very clear and in response to an assertion
      that you made -- or hinted at -- nobody in the Justice Department has lied.
      SENSENBRENNER: Why was the letter withdrawn?
      HOLDER: The letter was withdrawn because information in th-there that was
      inaccurate. The Justice Department letter of February --
      SENSENBRENNER: Okay, tell me what's the difference between "lying" and
      "misleading" Congress in this context?
      HOLDER: Well, it -- uh -- eh -- um -- i-i-if you want to have this legal
      arg -- uh, conversation it all has to with your state of mind and whether or
      not you had the requisite intent.
      RUSH: Riiiight, right. You can't lie unless you intend to. It's all about
      your state of mind! True, true enough, folks. It could hold true for
      rapists. "Yeah, I thought she loved me." Sandusky. "No, no, those boys loved me!
      Those boys begged for it. Those boys followed me. I loved those boys! Prove
      I'm lying. My state of mind wasn't to abuse those kids; I love those kids!
      You can't accuse me of abuse; it wasn't in my state of mind. So this little
      conversation continued. Sensenbrenner followed up with this.
      SENSENBRENNER: You know, the thing is is that if we don't get to the bottom
      of this -- and that requires your assistance on that -- there is only one
      alternative that Congress has, and it's called impeachment, where our
      subpoena powers are plenary and there can't be any type of a legal immunity or
      privilege that can be asserted on that.
      RUSH: These people, again, are not smarter than you and I, and what
      Sensenbrenner has just said and what we know is that Eric Holder, the attorney
      general -- number one law enforcement officer in the country -- sent letters
      and documents to Congress filled with lies. They were part of a cover-up,
      and Holder hasn't given up on that. Obama's attorney general is participating
      in a scheme to undermine gun laws, a scheme to undermine the Second
      Amendment. The attorney general of this country and the president are
      participating in a scheme to undermine the Constitution of the United States -- and
      not just with Fast and Furious, but with as many policies as they can. It is

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