New database no paperwork required
- Folks -
I opine that one can only wonder what type of alleged private investigator
would refer an advertised CHEAP database to their colleagues without taking
the time to carefully determine who, what, where, when and why. When you
think of all of the ramifications which can occur from our database
searches including, but not limited to, our getting sued or criminally prosecuted,
cheap is not necessarily better. Cheap does not necessarily equate to
When you refer a person's site whereby that site owner has 29 domain names
registered to them, that should be the first sign of "farming" and
"harvesting" information. That should also lead you to both suspect and fear
identity theft among other things.
There have been reports of alleged GLB compliance alongside statements of
not having to fill in forms regarding this company. Sorry folks but by law
you cannot have one without the other. At least not if the sources are the
true credit bureau records which is where the current information we need
Data is regulated by the GLB if it comes from financial institutions and
if the data was gathered after July 1, 2002. The GLB says nothing about
full SSNs. Truncating an SSN does not make data non-GLB. If it's GLB, it's
GLB whether or not a full SSN is provided. So far, there are no laws
mandating truncation. In most cases, data providers that truncate are doing so
in order to comply with the data owner's (credit bureau's) compliance
regulations. For instance, Experian does not allow the legitimate database
providers to give their full SSNs to PIs, even though all Experian data is GLB
data. The legitimate companies can get around some of the rules by using
data other than Experian data to fill in the SSN if and ONLY if the PI has
passed a site inspection.
My guess is that the data provided is not GLB data, otherwise, he would
have to perform a more in-depth investigation on each of his customers in
order to comply with the credit bureau's compliance and security regs. There
are no non-GLB sources of data with SSNs (truncated or not) that will be as
current and complete as GLB data from a credit bureau.
Remember, junk mail is not the burglary, it's the crowbar. Spam is not
magical nor self-generating. There are real flesh and blood criminals behind
it making real money. The yearly cost of electronic fraud is in the
billions. That's one of the problems with allowing unlicensed and unregulated
people access to our groups.
Do not think for one second that you will be able to hide behind the fact
that "it was available on the Internet" because it is each and everyone of
us who are responsible for making certain that our source is LAWFUL and
abiding by the GLB, the FCRA, etc. It wasn't that long ago when many of our
colleagues and associates were sitting in front of Congress answering
The Internet is replete with RIPOFF reports easily accessible. The
various BBB's are up to their proverbial eyeballs with complaints. It is my
opinion that he is harvesting and some of you are helping this unlicensed,
unauthorized scam artist.
On one of these links the company response speaks volumes.
How much is your license worth ????
Sarkis Detective Agency
1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA 91207-1826
"one Nation under God" and "in GOD we TRUST"
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read it in English,
thank a military veteran
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- suesarkis@..., wrote the following at or about 11/2/2009 11:29 AM:
> Folks -[snip]
> I opine that one can only wonder what type of alleged private
> investigator would refer an advertised CHEAP database to their
> colleagues without taking the time to carefully determine who, what,
> where, when and why. When you think of all of the ramifications which
> can occur from our database searches including, but not limited to,
> our getting sued or criminally prosecuted, cheap is not necessarily
> better. Cheap does not necessarily equate to LAWFUL !!!!
> When you refer a person's site whereby that site owner has 29 domain
> names registered to them, that should be the first sign of "farming"
> and "harvesting" information. That should also lead you to both
> suspect and fear identity theft among other things.
> There have been reports of alleged GLB compliance alongside statements
> of not having to fill in forms regarding this company. Sorry folks
> but by law you cannot have one without the other. At least not if the
> sources are the true credit bureau records which is where the current
> information we need is stored.
Kudos to Sue for going above and beyond and getting "behind" this site.
One step further and you find that as recently as the first of last
month, yes, OCTOBER 2009, he was looking for someone to design the logos
and site for this wonder service.
Overlooking all of Sue's digging, how is it that a startup like this can
have such a stellar reputation being touted by people who should, or at
least claim to, know better?
When she asks the question "What is your license worth?" I guess we have
to assume that for some folks, it's worth very little.
Hrodey & Associates Established 1977
Post Office Box 366 Member of NALI, ASIS, FBINAA,
Woodstock, IL 60098-0366 NCISS, & P.A.W.L.I.
Licensed in IL & WI (815) 337-4636 Voice
email: inquiry@... <mailto:inquiry@...>
or rth@... <mailto:rth@...>
Illinois License 115-000783 Wisconsin 8045-063
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