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    Get on another horse, you ve rode this one to death.   Grant E. Asher ASHER INVESTIGATIONS, LLC Oregon Legal Investigator License #33362 office/fax
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 30, 2009
      Get on another horse, you've rode this one to death.
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      From: "suesarkis@..." <suesarkis@...>
      To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Fri, October 30, 2009 1:26:57 PM
      Subject: Re: [infoguys-list] Re: Birther Lawsuit

      Bill -

      Yes, I asked the question because of your comment. I didn't say I read
      the entire decision but I do know what I did read which was an important
      legal statement Judge Carter made. I'm curious as to whether they [plaintiffs]
      will follow through in D.C.

      I do not believe that Kenya is a Hague member. However, even if they
      were, if both Hawaii and Kenya were to provide certified "birth certificates" as
      opposed to a "Certificate of Live Birth", I would most assuredly accept
      Hawaii's birth certificate as the real thing.

      I saw Jayne Meadows' Certificate of Live Birth back in 1970. She actually
      carried the darn thing in her purse. It clearly indicated or implied that
      she was born in Connecticut. However, anyone who knows anything about
      Jayne Meadows knows she was born in China along with her siblings. No, it was
      not a military family for those that are wondering. Her parents were
      missionaries. If anyone is too young to know who Jayne Meadows is, she is a
      retired actress who I first saw on Broadway many years ago. She also made a
      few movies and appeared on TV. She is married to Steve Allen until his


      In a message dated 10/30/2009 12:01:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
      oracleintl@aol. com writes:

      Yes, they covered that.

      I don't think anybody is still proffering the bogus birth certificate that
      was circulated as proof of anything - that was very thoroughly denounced
      as amateur hour garbage put together by someone who didn't know their
      history very well.

      In any event, the Plaintiffs want the Issuance of a Letter Rogatory to
      Kenyan authorities in search of a valid Birth Certificate (See Page 26).

      On that same page, the Court opined that, even if Kenya produced a
      document, there is no reason why an American court would accord that more
      credibility than a document produced by authorities in Hawaii.

      BTW - aren't you the one who questioned whether I had actually read this
      decision, or just the end result?


      In a message dated 10/30/2009 1:54:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      _suesarkis@aol. sue_ (mailto:suesarkis@aol. com) writes:

      Did Judge Carter rebuke or reject the certified copy of
      the birth certificate submitted as evidence which was certified by the
      current administration of Kenya ?? Did he mention it at all ??

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