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  • Vicki Siedow
    You re right about computer, and all other tech-related fields. Also elder fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility fraud/abuse. I also
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
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      You're right about computer, and all other tech-related fields. Also elder
      fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility fraud/abuse.
      I also do a lot of trademark violation work, identity theft and financial
      fraud cases.



      Vicki Siedow
      Siedow & Associates Investigations
      & Legal Support Services
      2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
      La Crescenta, CA 91214
      Los Angeles County
      CA PI License # 22852
      800.448.6431 toll free
      818.242.0130 local
      818.688.3295 fax
      <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
      <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
      Member NCISS, IWWA
      Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
      Need economical legal help?
      Concerned about Identity Theft?
      Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.





      From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com]
      On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
      Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:24 AM
      To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [infoguys-list] Investigative Services



      Hi Group!

      I would like to find out what services are the most requested and which
      you would consider to be "up and coming"

      After reading a few articles in the Business News and various papers, I
      feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten
      request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
      legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this angle
      of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their employee
      time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...





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    • Debbie Peever
      Great info Vicki - thank you. We actually had a case recently that I turned down regarding trademark infringement, so I am happy to see I can gain answers to
      Message 2 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
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        Great info Vicki - thank you. We actually had a case recently that I
        turned down regarding trademark infringement, so I am happy to see I
        can gain answers to questions regarding this type of investigations
        as well!

        In regards to the nursing home abuse - is it the families of the
        patients that hire you? ... if so, is that just one offs?

        Debbie


        --- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com, "Vicki Siedow"
        <SiedowAndAssociates@...> wrote:
        >
        > You're right about computer, and all other tech-related fields.
        Also elder
        > fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility
        fraud/abuse.
        > I also do a lot of trademark violation work, identity theft and
        financial
        > fraud cases.
        >
        >
        >
        > Vicki Siedow
        > Siedow & Associates Investigations
        > & Legal Support Services
        > 2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
        > La Crescenta, CA 91214
        > Los Angeles County
        > CA PI License # 22852
        > 800.448.6431 toll free
        > 818.242.0130 local
        > 818.688.3295 fax
        > <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
        > <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
        > Member NCISS, IWWA
        > Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
        > Need economical legal help?
        > Concerned about Identity Theft?
        > Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infoguys-
        list@yahoogroups.com]
        > On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
        > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:24 AM
        > To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [infoguys-list] Investigative Services
        >
        >
        >
        > Hi Group!
        >
        > I would like to find out what services are the most requested and
        which
        > you would consider to be "up and coming"
        >
        > After reading a few articles in the Business News and various
        papers, I
        > feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top
        ten
        > request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
        > legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this
        angle
        > of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their
        employee
        > time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
      • Ricky Gurley
        ... wrote: feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten ... Digital Forensics work is not as easy to get into as one might believe.
        Message 3 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
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          --- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com, "Debbie Peever" <debbie@...>
          wrote:
          feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten
          > request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
          > legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this angle
          > of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their employee
          > time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...


          Digital Forensics work is not as easy to get into as one might believe.
          First, there is a significant investment to be made into the tools that
          you need to do it the correct way. This investment can be
          somewhat "curtailed", if you are comfortable with, or are willing to
          become comfortable with Open Source Software for this type of work.
          Without the willingness to use Open Source Software, you can spend 10,
          20, even 50K or more in setting yourself up to handle digital forensics
          cases, and that is just in tools.

          If you are wanting to pursue investigations related to work place
          investigations regarding employee misuse of company computers, that
          will not be used in court, and will be used strictly to make a decision
          in regards to employee termination; then Digital Forensics Software
          might be a little "overkill" (especially in "right to work" states).
          There are programs that you can buy and even get for free that are not
          as "forensically sound" in their approach, but would meet the needs of
          investigations that are focused on company computer misuse; that will
          not go to court. However, you might note that some of this type of
          company computer misuse is more than likely going to involve certain
          types of criminal activity, i.e. downloading child pornography; at
          which point it becomes a matter of stopping your investigation,
          properly shutting down the computer, and bringing in Law Enforcement.

          I am surprised quite often when someone says they want to get into
          digital forensics, for recovering data on computers that have crashed,
          or for investigations that are typically not court related. I generally
          ask the question: "Do you know the meaning of the word "forensic"?
          Often their answer is wrong, so I take that opportunity to hopefully
          let them learn something from the conversation. The modern use of the
          word "forensic" just means that whatever it is applied to is going to
          be used in court. Specifically, for those that would "nitpick", the
          definition is:

          "Forensic 1) adj. from Latin forensis for "belonging to the forum,"
          ancient Rome's site for public debate, and currently meaning pertaining
          to the courts. Thus, forensic testimony or forensic medicine are used
          to assist the court or the attorneys in legal matters, including
          trials."

          So, understand that when the term "forensic" is attached to the topic
          of cyber-investigations, we have opened up a whole new world in this
          type of investigation.

          Next, you are going to have to be trained in these days and times. Your
          training is going to also be fairly expensive. Actually, one of the
          most affordable but thorough instructors in the industry is probably
          Andy Rosen (he is also known as the father of modern day digital
          forensics), you can read up on him and his program SMART here:
          http://www.asrdata.com/

          You'll spend about $5,000.00 just learning basic Digital Forensics and
          basic use of SMART from him (that's all inclusive with expenses
          factored in).

          And then you'll have to stay current on new laws, rules, regulations,
          and protocols in this particular field. You will want to learn about
          subjects such as acquisition and authentication issues, chain of
          custody issues, discovery issues, and much more.

          So, in summary; the field of digital forensics is something that you
          might want to give some careful thought to getting into. If you do
          decide you are interested in it, then you'll want to formulate a "plan
          of action" for doing so.

          If I can help, feel free to give me a call.


          Rick.


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        • Vicki Siedow
          Yes, often. However there is a lot of referral business, and often when one patient is abused, so are others. Kelly Riddle has written some good books on the
          Message 4 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
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            Yes, often. However there is a lot of referral business, and often when one
            patient is abused, so are others. Kelly Riddle has written some good books
            on the subject. You can use the same techniques on the psych facilities,
            although we've developed additional methods for those as well. These are
            good areas because the baby boomers are getting older, and the psychs are
            trying to profit from the most vulnerable segments, kids, elders, military,
            new moms, etc. Lots of people we can help, and still make a living. Let
            me know if you need more help.



            Vicki Siedow
            Siedow & Associates Investigations
            & Legal Support Services
            2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
            La Crescenta, CA 91214
            Los Angeles County
            CA PI License # 22852
            800.448.6431 toll free
            818.242.0130 local
            818.688.3295 fax
            <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
            <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
            Member NCISS, IWWA
            Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
            Need economical legal help?
            Concerned about Identity Theft?
            Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.





            From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com]
            On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
            Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:19 PM
            To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [infoguys-list] Re: Investigative Services



            Great info Vicki - thank you. We actually had a case recently that I
            turned down regarding trademark infringement, so I am happy to see I
            can gain answers to questions regarding this type of investigations
            as well!

            In regards to the nursing home abuse - is it the families of the
            patients that hire you? ... if so, is that just one offs?

            Debbie

            --- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
            <mailto:infoguys-list%40yahoogroups.com> , "Vicki Siedow"
            <SiedowAndAssociates@...> wrote:
            >
            > You're right about computer, and all other tech-related fields.
            Also elder
            > fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility
            fraud/abuse.
            > I also do a lot of trademark violation work, identity theft and
            financial
            > fraud cases.
            >
            >
            >
            > Vicki Siedow
            > Siedow & Associates Investigations
            > & Legal Support Services
            > 2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
            > La Crescenta, CA 91214
            > Los Angeles County
            > CA PI License # 22852
            > 800.448.6431 toll free
            > 818.242.0130 local
            > 818.688.3295 fax
            > <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
            > <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
            > Member NCISS, IWWA
            > Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
            > Need economical legal help?
            > Concerned about Identity Theft?
            > Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
            <mailto:infoguys-list%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:infoguys-
            list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:list%40yahoogroups.com> ]
            > On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
            > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:24 AM
            > To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:infoguys-list%40yahoogroups.com>

            > Subject: [infoguys-list] Investigative Services
            >
            >
            >
            > Hi Group!
            >
            > I would like to find out what services are the most requested and
            which
            > you would consider to be "up and coming"
            >
            > After reading a few articles in the Business News and various
            papers, I
            > feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top
            ten
            > request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
            > legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this
            angle
            > of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their
            employee
            > time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >





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