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  • Debbie Peever
    Hi Group! I would like to find out what services are the most requested and which you would consider to be up and coming After reading a few articles in the
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
      Hi Group!

      I would like to find out what services are the most requested and which
      you would consider to be "up and coming"

      After reading a few articles in the Business News and various papers, I
      feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten
      request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
      legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this angle
      of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their employee
      time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...
    • Vicki Siedow
      You re right about computer, and all other tech-related fields. Also elder fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility fraud/abuse. I also
      Message 2 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
        You're right about computer, and all other tech-related fields. Also elder
        fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility fraud/abuse.
        I also do a lot of trademark violation work, identity theft and financial
        fraud cases.



        Vicki Siedow
        Siedow & Associates Investigations
        & Legal Support Services
        2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
        La Crescenta, CA 91214
        Los Angeles County
        CA PI License # 22852
        800.448.6431 toll free
        818.242.0130 local
        818.688.3295 fax
        <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
        <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
        Member NCISS, IWWA
        Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
        Need economical legal help?
        Concerned about Identity Theft?
        Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.





        From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com]
        On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
        Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:24 AM
        To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [infoguys-list] Investigative Services



        Hi Group!

        I would like to find out what services are the most requested and which
        you would consider to be "up and coming"

        After reading a few articles in the Business News and various papers, I
        feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten
        request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
        legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this angle
        of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their employee
        time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...





        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • Debbie Peever
        Great info Vicki - thank you. We actually had a case recently that I turned down regarding trademark infringement, so I am happy to see I can gain answers to
        Message 3 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
          Great info Vicki - thank you. We actually had a case recently that I
          turned down regarding trademark infringement, so I am happy to see I
          can gain answers to questions regarding this type of investigations
          as well!

          In regards to the nursing home abuse - is it the families of the
          patients that hire you? ... if so, is that just one offs?

          Debbie


          --- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com, "Vicki Siedow"
          <SiedowAndAssociates@...> wrote:
          >
          > You're right about computer, and all other tech-related fields.
          Also elder
          > fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility
          fraud/abuse.
          > I also do a lot of trademark violation work, identity theft and
          financial
          > fraud cases.
          >
          >
          >
          > Vicki Siedow
          > Siedow & Associates Investigations
          > & Legal Support Services
          > 2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
          > La Crescenta, CA 91214
          > Los Angeles County
          > CA PI License # 22852
          > 800.448.6431 toll free
          > 818.242.0130 local
          > 818.688.3295 fax
          > <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
          > <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
          > Member NCISS, IWWA
          > Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
          > Need economical legal help?
          > Concerned about Identity Theft?
          > Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infoguys-
          list@yahoogroups.com]
          > On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
          > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:24 AM
          > To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [infoguys-list] Investigative Services
          >
          >
          >
          > Hi Group!
          >
          > I would like to find out what services are the most requested and
          which
          > you would consider to be "up and coming"
          >
          > After reading a few articles in the Business News and various
          papers, I
          > feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top
          ten
          > request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
          > legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this
          angle
          > of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their
          employee
          > time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
        • Ricky Gurley
          ... wrote: feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten ... Digital Forensics work is not as easy to get into as one might believe.
          Message 4 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
            --- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com, "Debbie Peever" <debbie@...>
            wrote:
            feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top ten
            > request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
            > legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this angle
            > of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their employee
            > time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...


            Digital Forensics work is not as easy to get into as one might believe.
            First, there is a significant investment to be made into the tools that
            you need to do it the correct way. This investment can be
            somewhat "curtailed", if you are comfortable with, or are willing to
            become comfortable with Open Source Software for this type of work.
            Without the willingness to use Open Source Software, you can spend 10,
            20, even 50K or more in setting yourself up to handle digital forensics
            cases, and that is just in tools.

            If you are wanting to pursue investigations related to work place
            investigations regarding employee misuse of company computers, that
            will not be used in court, and will be used strictly to make a decision
            in regards to employee termination; then Digital Forensics Software
            might be a little "overkill" (especially in "right to work" states).
            There are programs that you can buy and even get for free that are not
            as "forensically sound" in their approach, but would meet the needs of
            investigations that are focused on company computer misuse; that will
            not go to court. However, you might note that some of this type of
            company computer misuse is more than likely going to involve certain
            types of criminal activity, i.e. downloading child pornography; at
            which point it becomes a matter of stopping your investigation,
            properly shutting down the computer, and bringing in Law Enforcement.

            I am surprised quite often when someone says they want to get into
            digital forensics, for recovering data on computers that have crashed,
            or for investigations that are typically not court related. I generally
            ask the question: "Do you know the meaning of the word "forensic"?
            Often their answer is wrong, so I take that opportunity to hopefully
            let them learn something from the conversation. The modern use of the
            word "forensic" just means that whatever it is applied to is going to
            be used in court. Specifically, for those that would "nitpick", the
            definition is:

            "Forensic 1) adj. from Latin forensis for "belonging to the forum,"
            ancient Rome's site for public debate, and currently meaning pertaining
            to the courts. Thus, forensic testimony or forensic medicine are used
            to assist the court or the attorneys in legal matters, including
            trials."

            So, understand that when the term "forensic" is attached to the topic
            of cyber-investigations, we have opened up a whole new world in this
            type of investigation.

            Next, you are going to have to be trained in these days and times. Your
            training is going to also be fairly expensive. Actually, one of the
            most affordable but thorough instructors in the industry is probably
            Andy Rosen (he is also known as the father of modern day digital
            forensics), you can read up on him and his program SMART here:
            http://www.asrdata.com/

            You'll spend about $5,000.00 just learning basic Digital Forensics and
            basic use of SMART from him (that's all inclusive with expenses
            factored in).

            And then you'll have to stay current on new laws, rules, regulations,
            and protocols in this particular field. You will want to learn about
            subjects such as acquisition and authentication issues, chain of
            custody issues, discovery issues, and much more.

            So, in summary; the field of digital forensics is something that you
            might want to give some careful thought to getting into. If you do
            decide you are interested in it, then you'll want to formulate a "plan
            of action" for doing so.

            If I can help, feel free to give me a call.


            Rick.


            Risk Management Research & Investments, Inc.
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          • Vicki Siedow
            Yes, often. However there is a lot of referral business, and often when one patient is abused, so are others. Kelly Riddle has written some good books on the
            Message 5 of 5 , Jan 5, 2008
              Yes, often. However there is a lot of referral business, and often when one
              patient is abused, so are others. Kelly Riddle has written some good books
              on the subject. You can use the same techniques on the psych facilities,
              although we've developed additional methods for those as well. These are
              good areas because the baby boomers are getting older, and the psychs are
              trying to profit from the most vulnerable segments, kids, elders, military,
              new moms, etc. Lots of people we can help, and still make a living. Let
              me know if you need more help.



              Vicki Siedow
              Siedow & Associates Investigations
              & Legal Support Services
              2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
              La Crescenta, CA 91214
              Los Angeles County
              CA PI License # 22852
              800.448.6431 toll free
              818.242.0130 local
              818.688.3295 fax
              <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
              <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
              Member NCISS, IWWA
              Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
              Need economical legal help?
              Concerned about Identity Theft?
              Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.





              From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com]
              On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
              Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:19 PM
              To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [infoguys-list] Re: Investigative Services



              Great info Vicki - thank you. We actually had a case recently that I
              turned down regarding trademark infringement, so I am happy to see I
              can gain answers to questions regarding this type of investigations
              as well!

              In regards to the nursing home abuse - is it the families of the
              patients that hire you? ... if so, is that just one offs?

              Debbie

              --- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
              <mailto:infoguys-list%40yahoogroups.com> , "Vicki Siedow"
              <SiedowAndAssociates@...> wrote:
              >
              > You're right about computer, and all other tech-related fields.
              Also elder
              > fraud/abuse and the related nursing home/psychiatric facility
              fraud/abuse.
              > I also do a lot of trademark violation work, identity theft and
              financial
              > fraud cases.
              >
              >
              >
              > Vicki Siedow
              > Siedow & Associates Investigations
              > & Legal Support Services
              > 2629 Foothill Blvd. #262
              > La Crescenta, CA 91214
              > Los Angeles County
              > CA PI License # 22852
              > 800.448.6431 toll free
              > 818.242.0130 local
              > 818.688.3295 fax
              > <http://siedow.lawandorder.com/> http://Siedow.LawAndOrder.com
              > <mailto:Siedow@...> Siedow@...
              > Member NCISS, IWWA
              > Certified Identity Theft Risk Management Specialist
              > Need economical legal help?
              > Concerned about Identity Theft?
              > Check the links on my site, or contact me directly.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > From: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
              <mailto:infoguys-list%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:infoguys-
              list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:list%40yahoogroups.com> ]
              > On Behalf Of Debbie Peever
              > Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:24 AM
              > To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:infoguys-list%40yahoogroups.com>

              > Subject: [infoguys-list] Investigative Services
              >
              >
              >
              > Hi Group!
              >
              > I would like to find out what services are the most requested and
              which
              > you would consider to be "up and coming"
              >
              > After reading a few articles in the Business News and various
              papers, I
              > feel that Computer forensics are slowly making their way to a top
              ten
              > request of service. BUT, this comes at a price as well - as the
              > legalities of it are ever changing. Any views on pursuing this
              angle
              > of investigations solely for businesses concerned with their
              employee
              > time on the internet, computer emails etc? ...
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >





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