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  • The Rancher
    Nov 12, 2004

      BTW: Col. never did cotton to officers much, but I like your style.. you'd
      have made a good NCO ....

      Whether one was on active duty or not should not be the issue. What I have
      a problem with is, that our most "passionate hawks" never realized that war
      is a last option.

      It is interesting to note who is willing to put his life on the line for
      what he believes in...and who is not!!!

      Here is a list of Prominent Democrats, Prominent Republicans and Prominent
      Pundits & Preachers...and their Service Records in this regard.

      Read it and weep... for your country:


      This could be the last election where military service in Vietnam
      has any political currency. But just for the
      record, it's worth noting who really served among the
      heavyweights in each of the major political parties. There
      are some surprises here. Did you know John Kerry received three
      purple hearts? Just kidding. But here's the
      list. Be sure to check out the bottom of the list...where the
      people who spend their time jabbering about military service
      (the TV pundits) have their military credentials exposed.


      Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
      David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
      Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
      Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an
      army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
      Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
      Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
      John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with
      Combat V Purple Hearts.
      John Edwards: did not serve.
      Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
      Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star,
      Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-1953.
      Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
      Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve
      Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze
      Star and seven campaign ribbons.
      Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze
      Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
      Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver
      Star and Legion of Merit.
      Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
      Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam;
      Bronze Star with Combat V.
      Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
      Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
      Chuck Robb: Vietnam
      Howell Heflin: Silver Star
      George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
      Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft
      but received 311.
      Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
      Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
      John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18
      Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by
      Raoul Wallenberg.
      Wesley Clark: U.S. Army, 1966-2000, West Point, Vietnam,
      Purple Heart, Silver Star. Retired 4-star
      John Dingell: WWII vet
      John Conyers: Army 1950-57, Korea


      Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
      Tom Delay: did not serve.
      House Whiip Roy Blunt: did not serve.
      Bill Frist: did not serve.
      Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
      George Pataki: did not serve.
      Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
      Rick Santorum: did not serve.
      Trent Lott: did not serve.
      Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by
      John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach
      Jeb Bush: did not serve.
      Karl Rove: did not serve.
      Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who
      attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
      Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
      Vin Weber: did not serve.
      Richard Perle: did not serve.
      Douglas Feith: did not serve.
      Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
      Richard Shelby: did not serve.
      Jon Kyl: did not serve.
      Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
      Christopher Cox: did not serve.
      Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
      Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as aviator and flight
      George W. Bush: six-year Nat'l Guard commitment (incomplete).
      Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat
      role making movies.
      Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII
      Phil Gramm: did not serve.
      John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple
      Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
      Bob Dole: an honorable veteran.
      Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
      Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-1986
      JC Watts: did not serve.
      Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
      G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese.
      Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam.
      Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
      Clarence Thomas: did not serve

      Pundits and Preachers

      Sean Hannity: did not serve.
      Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
      Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
      Michael Savage: did not serve.
      George Will: did not serve.
      Chris Matthews: did not serve.
      Paul Gigot: did not serve.
      Bill Bennett: did not serve.
      Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
      Bill Kristol: did not serve.
      Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
      Michael Medved: did not serve.

      Please pass this on to members of your address book...so we can all
      contemplate who has the right and the knowledge and the experience to lead
      us into war...and who has not!


      From: Jewell D. McGuire [mailto:cjdgdm@...]
      Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:16 AM
      To: infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [infoguys-list] Advocate Investigation

      To: Brettnbold@...

      Damn right they are and they will go anywhere they are ordered. The United
      States Military did not start this war and they would rather be home sitting
      on their front porch watching idiots like you drive by while they drink a
      beer. They are they last ones that want any war because they are the ones
      who pay the price. You are sitting at your computer on your worthless ass
      enjoying the freedom that has been bought and paid for the past 229 years by
      men and women that wanted peace more then you. They paid the price and
      jerks like you get the benefits. Here is my address come by here if your
      want to finish this discussion in person. Do not use this list to reply.

      Colonel JD McGuire, Owner
      Advocate Investigation & Protection
      72 E Chavez Rd
      Scottville, MI 49454

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      Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [infoguys-list] Advocate Investigation

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