1389Re: [The Indigo Network] improving schools
- Jan 2, 2007Lorie, thankyou for sharing your story with me, I really appreciate it. I think you sent it to me a few weeks ago and when I replied to thank you, it was returned. I hope you get this note. You sound like very caring parents, i feel lucky for your daughter however you choose to educate here. Thanks again, ty.
lbb116 <lorie_b@...> wrote: Tyler.....
I saw this post asking about information on Waldorf. My daughter has
just spent a year and a half at a Waldorf school. We left public
school after 1st grade because she was miserable. The school system
was very over crowded and she, being an indigo, had very strong
opinions about how she should be taught. It didn't go over too well
with her 1st grade teacher. The principal got to know my daughter
After visiting the indigochild.com site and saw that waldorf and
montessori schools might be a good alternative, we applied to
Montessori, but there weren't any openings. After visiting Waldorf,
it seemed it might be a good fit. We knew up front that they delayed
teaching reading unitl 2nd grade. This didn't concern us since, she
was a strong reader -- already tested to be reading at the 3rd grade
We liked that they had a morning recess after snack and an afternoon
recess after lunch every day. At her old school lunch was at 10:30!!!
They very often didn't get recess. She would have handwork class where
she learned to knit. So far, she's knitted a cat, a horse and a flute
case. She would have russian and german classes. PE seemed to be in
the form of a movement class called eurythmy. Language arts, writing,
history, and math seemed to be rolled up into one block called "main
lesson". Math was on the schedule only once a week. When I
questioned this, I was told that they had a "holistic" approach to
math and it was "folded" into the whole curriculum. Even so, after
the rushed, over-the-top, pushed down curriculum of public school,
this seemed to be a kinder, gentler approach to education. Like we
remembered when we were in grade school. It felt like we were giving
her childhood back to her.
The first several months was a big adjustment for her. They have a
policy about keeping the outside out of school. No character based
clothing, lunch boxes and no black clothing. They even encourage
parents to get rid of the TV. That meant she couldn't wear her beloved
light-up sneakers or bring her Barbie lunchbox to school. She also
endured quite a bit of teasing and friction from the other kids
(mostly from a few boys). They delighted in pointing out everytime
she did something wrong. Slowly she adapted, let go of all the pent
up anger from 1st grade and began making friends and fitting in. It
is to the credit of the school and the parents that everyone stood by
her and refused to let the teasing go unnoticed or uncorrected. She
loved the school, however we became very concerned that her teacher
was unqualified (she had absolutely no teaching credentials or
experience), and the curriculum was a little too lax. There are no
text books, the children copy off the blackboard into their "main
lesson" books, using crayons at first and then moving to pencils. At
the end of the chaotic year, many parents were on the fence about
returning, as were we. Two actually did not. We did reluctantly, we
felt we had no other alternative, Montessori would not have any
openings until the 4th grade. We did not want to put her back in
public schools. So we returned this school year with much misgivings
and apprehension. The teacher still did not have control of the
class, several boys were ADD and she could not handle them.
In October, we visited the local Montessori. My daughter met with the
4th grade teacher, at my request, to determine where she was
academically and how much catch-up we'd have to do to get her ready
for the 4th grade. We were told she "would not be a good fit". We
then had her tested at Huntington Learning Center. She was 1 1/2
years behind academically. She was behind in reading comprehension
and mathematics. She was struggling with not only multiplication but
subtraction (multi-digit with borrowing).
After getting that grim news, we made the decision to contract with
Huntington to tutor her in reading and math. According to their
evaluation it will take approx. 153 hours to bring her up to speed.
So We've withdrawn her from Waldorf. She'll go to Huntington in the
mornings for 2 hours every day Mon-Fri and I'll homeschool her in the
rest of the 3rd grade curriculum ... spelling, cursive, science,
We are not the only parents who pulled their kids out of Waldorf
because of lack of academics. The parents that pulled their kids out
of her class last year did it because of academics or lack of.
Waldorf sounds good on paper and at visitation. But the fact is the
kids simply aren't getting the basics when they need them. I talked
to the all-girls middle school where Waldorf girls are supposed to
matriculate in 5th grade and I was told that they have to be "caught
up in math." The Admissions director told me this.
This is something to be aware of and consider if you are looking at
BTW, it will cost us as much as a full years tuition at Waldorf to
have Huntington tutor her. We chose to do this because all their
teachers are certified and accredited. And, they are experienced in
bringing kids up to speed. Waldorf has been a very expensive lesson
for all of us.
--- In email@example.com, tyler Mazzeo <tylermazzeo@...>
>interested to know more about the waldorf schools. If it is not too
> Lily, thank you for your very encouraging email. I am intensly
much trouble for you, would you mind telling me a little bit about the
kinds of things your daughter has learned at the Waldorf school? How
much is tuition a year at the Waldorf schools? I have no doubt that
they produce fine individuals, but are there statistics about success
rates or what Waldorf graduates do?
> I word in an impoverished community, 100% free lunch, 98%hispanic, many many immigrants. However, my 11 year old students have
developed curriculum ideas, vocabulary models, learning heirarchies
and charts that express more intelligence than anything I have yet
seen produced by educators. The human potential is untapped where I
work and the violence and subjegation is criminal, but becuase it is
the status quo, nobody can see the naked empress.
> By the way, my personal classroom homepage has as its username,Artemis.
> THanks again for the uplifting note, I really feel alone in myopinions and endeavors, maybe I am not as alone as I think, Sincerly ty
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