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  • mohit nangia
    dear anil thanks for the prompt response and valuable tips.will look them up. ... _________________________________________________________________ Get your
    Message 1 of 8 , Nov 1, 2001
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      dear anil
      thanks for the prompt response and valuable tips.will look them up.


      >From: mehta anil <mehtaan@...>
      >Reply-To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
      >To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: RE: [indica-users] CLICKING SOUND AND FOGGING OF WINDSCREEN IN NE
      >W CAR
      >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:08:45 +0530
      >
      >Mohit ( & friends )
      >
      >What is the frequency of the clicking sounds ? If in the range of ten
      >minutes or so, then it should only be the thermostat switching off and on
      >the compressor through the relay, when the desired temperature is reached.
      >
      >In the case of my DLE, the frequency was 15 to 20 seconds. Concorde could
      >not diagnose the problem for 19 months & kept on insisting that this
      >frequency was ok. An a/c specialist whom Concorde would have termed as a
      >"road-side mechanic" took precisely 5 minutes to diagnose ( & rectify ) the
      >problem as a defective (loose) plug-socket in the blower's electrical
      >circuit. This was breaking and making the electrical circuit, thereby
      >switching off and on the compressor, every 15 to 20 seconds.
      >
      >The Indica has (or had, if V2 does not have it ) inherent problem of loose
      >/
      >defective plug-sockets.
      >
      >Further, the compressor contained very little compressor oil, causing it to
      >overheat and to "loose the cooling". Concorde could not diagnose this also
      >for 19 months. The road-side ( ???) mechanic diagnosed this also when he
      >did
      >the servicing & gas-charging of the a/c in 4 hours.
      >
      >Even now, the cooling occasionally fluctuates under the same operating
      >conditions. I fear that the compressor is defective from the beginning, or
      >has got damaged on account of being operated with low oil level.
      >
      >Congratulations, Concorde !!! The warranty is over !!! So you go scot-free
      >!!!
      >
      >
      >Anil
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Mathew Isaac [mailto:Mathew.isaac@...]
      > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:27 AM
      > To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [indica-users] CLICKING SOUND AND
      >FOGGING OF WINDSCREEN IN NEW CAR
      >
      > u really dont have to worry..its normal
      > mathew
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "mohit nangia" <mohitnangia@...>
      > To: <indica-users@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:13 AM
      > Subject: [indica-users] CLICKING SOUND AND FOGGING OF
      >WINDSCREEN IN NEW CAR
      >
      >
      > > i have collected indica v2 dle on 30 oct 2001 at concorde,
      >chennai. THERE
      > IS
      > > a intermittent clicking sound from the front left of the
      >car, seems like
      > the
      > > ac compressor switching on and off. also there was lot of
      >condensation at
      > > the left front door window and lower part of the
      >windscreen. i request for
      > > some guidance on the matter please.
      > > thanks
      >
      >
      >
      >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >


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    • allwita@yahoo.com
      Dear Mohit, I truly agree with Anil s point of view.. the clicking sounds definitely might need to be looked at, as the frequency of the clicks is important in
      Message 2 of 8 , Nov 1, 2001
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        Dear Mohit,

        I truly agree with Anil's point of view.. the clicking sounds
        definitely might need to be looked at, as the frequency of the clicks
        is important in determining the process that is taking place within
        the compressor chamber. As far as the condensation part goes, this is
        perfectly normal and all depends on the relative humidity prevailing
        outside the vehicle.

        If however, you get condensation coming from the air-vents, get the
        Telco dealer to have the compressor thermostat looked at immediately
        because it could be a defective thermostat unit.. but you will learn
        about this quickly as the effectiveness of the cooling in the cabin
        will go down rapidly with time.

        In any case, get the air-conditioning unit checked out... And get a
        second or third opinion to be on the safe side.

        Anil,
        Your prognosis was excellent.

        Regards,

        Allwyn Siqueira
        LXi Owner
        Goa/Kuwait


        --- In indica-users@y..., "mohit nangia" <mohitnangia@h...> wrote:
        > dear anil
        > thanks for the prompt response and valuable tips.will look them up.
        >
        >
        > >From: mehta anil <mehtaan@b...>
        > >Reply-To: indica-users@y...
        > >To: indica-users@y...
        > >Subject: RE: [indica-users] CLICKING SOUND AND FOGGING OF
        WINDSCREEN IN NE
        > >W CAR
        > >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:08:45 +0530
        > >
        > >Mohit ( & friends )
        > >
        > >What is the frequency of the clicking sounds ? If in the range of
        ten
        > >minutes or so, then it should only be the thermostat switching off
        and on
        > >the compressor through the relay, when the desired temperature is
        reached.
        > >
        > >In the case of my DLE, the frequency was 15 to 20 seconds.
        Concorde could
        > >not diagnose the problem for 19 months & kept on insisting that
        this
        > >frequency was ok. An a/c specialist whom Concorde would have
        termed as a
        > >"road-side mechanic" took precisely 5 minutes to diagnose ( &
        rectify ) the
        > >problem as a defective (loose) plug-socket in the blower's
        electrical
        > >circuit. This was breaking and making the electrical circuit,
        thereby
        > >switching off and on the compressor, every 15 to 20 seconds.
        > >
        > >The Indica has (or had, if V2 does not have it ) inherent problem
        of loose
        > >/
        > >defective plug-sockets.
        > >
        > >Further, the compressor contained very little compressor oil,
        causing it to
        > >overheat and to "loose the cooling". Concorde could not diagnose
        this also
        > >for 19 months. The road-side ( ???) mechanic diagnosed this also
        when he
        > >did
        > >the servicing & gas-charging of the a/c in 4 hours.
        > >
        > >Even now, the cooling occasionally fluctuates under the same
        operating
        > >conditions. I fear that the compressor is defective from the
        beginning, or
        > >has got damaged on account of being operated with low oil level.
        > >
        > >Congratulations, Concorde !!! The warranty is over !!! So you go
        scot-free
        > >!!!
        > >
        > >
        > >Anil
        > >
      • Manas Misra
        I have joined this group yesterday and am owner of a LSi V2 for the past two months. I wonder if any of you had any issue with the fuel line. About two weeks
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          I have joined this group yesterday and am owner of a LSi V2 for the past two
          months. I wonder if any of you had any issue with the fuel line. About two
          weeks ago I started getting very strong smell of petrol in the cabin while
          running the AC. I had that checked thought the helpline (which was prompt
          enough) and they found that the fuel line had a fine crack, thus releasing a
          fine mist of petrol while the engine was on.

          Although it was corrected, I thought that was a bit too early in a car's
          life to have something of this sort.

          Manas Misra
          V2 LSi (Sep 01)
          Mumbai
        • Ravi Punjabi
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            --- Manas Misra <manas.misra@...> wrote:
            > I have joined this group yesterday and am owner of a
            > LSi V2 for the past two
            > months. I wonder if any of you had any issue with
            > the fuel line. About two
            > weeks ago I started getting very strong smell of
            > petrol in the cabin while
            > running the AC. I had that checked thought the
            > helpline (which was prompt
            > enough) and they found that the fuel line had a fine
            > crack, thus releasing a
            > fine mist of petrol while the engine was on.
            >
            > Although it was corrected, I thought that was a bit
            > too early in a car's
            > life to have something of this sort.
            >
            > Manas Misra
            > V2 LSi (Sep 01)
            > Mumbai
            >
            >
            >


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          • VARGHESE_TD
            My friend, a Zen owner had faced this problem. He too found the fuel line having a cut. The culprit was not Suzuki but rats Varghese ... From: Manas Misra
            Message 5 of 8 , Nov 2, 2001
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              My friend, a Zen owner had faced this problem. He too found the fuel
              line having a cut.
              The culprit was not Suzuki but rats

              Varghese
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Manas Misra [mailto:manas.misra@...]
              Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:52 AM
              To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [indica-users] Fuel Pipe rupture


              I have joined this group yesterday and am owner of a LSi V2 for the past
              two
              months. I wonder if any of you had any issue with the fuel line. About
              two
              weeks ago I started getting very strong smell of petrol in the cabin
              while
              running the AC. I had that checked thought the helpline (which was
              prompt
              enough) and they found that the fuel line had a fine crack, thus
              releasing a
              fine mist of petrol while the engine was on.

              Although it was corrected, I thought that was a bit too early in a car's
              life to have something of this sort.

              Manas Misra
              V2 LSi (Sep 01)
              Mumbai




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            • Dr. S. Guruprasad
              Dear Manas, First, There is no machine in this world that can t go bad. Secondly, Even with good design, quality parts and environment there is still human
              Message 6 of 8 , Nov 3, 2001
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                Dear Manas,

                First, There is no machine in this world that can't go bad.
                Secondly, Even with good design, quality parts and environment there is
                still human factor which is very critical for a reliable system. A product
                is result of work of thousands of human beings (workers,
                inspectors...etc..). In spite of all the quality control measures the
                bungles do happen in manufacturing assembly etc..
                Thirdly, This can even happen with Rolls Royce, General Motors etc..

                However, Telco should make every effort to see that reliability is
                increased. There is lot of scope for improvement.

                _____________________________________________________________________

                Dr. S.Guruprasad Phone:91-20-7150837
                108, Maj, Qtr,
                RDE Colony, email: leela_guru@...
                Dighi,
                Pune - 411 015
                INDIA
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                -----Original Message-----
                From: Manas Misra [mailto:manas.misra@...]
                Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:52 AM
                To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [indica-users] Fuel Pipe rupture


                I have joined this group yesterday and am owner of a LSi V2 for the past two
                months. I wonder if any of you had any issue with the fuel line. About two
                weeks ago I started getting very strong smell of petrol in the cabin while
                running the AC. I had that checked thought the helpline (which was prompt
                enough) and they found that the fuel line had a fine crack, thus releasing a
                fine mist of petrol while the engine was on.

                Although it was corrected, I thought that was a bit too early in a car's
                life to have something of this sort.

                Manas Misra
                V2 LSi (Sep 01)
                Mumbai




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              • Manas Misra
                Dear Dr. Guruprasad: I absolutely take your point. I believe I was looking for assurance from more experienced Indica users like yourself. In any case I enjoy
                Message 7 of 8 , Nov 4, 2001
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                  Dear Dr. Guruprasad:

                  I absolutely take your point. I believe I was looking for assurance from
                  more experienced Indica users like yourself. In any case I enjoy my car far
                  too much to let it go just like that.

                  Manas


                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: Dr. S. Guruprasad [mailto:leela_guru@...]
                  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 8:45 PM
                  To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [indica-users] Fuel Pipe rupture


                  Dear Manas,

                  First, There is no machine in this world that can't go bad.
                  Secondly, Even with good design, quality parts and environment there is
                  still human factor which is very critical for a reliable system. A product
                  is result of work of thousands of human beings (workers,
                  inspectors...etc..). In spite of all the quality control measures the
                  bungles do happen in manufacturing assembly etc..
                  Thirdly, This can even happen with Rolls Royce, General Motors etc..

                  However, Telco should make every effort to see that reliability is
                  increased. There is lot of scope for improvement.

                  _____________________________________________________________________

                  Dr. S.Guruprasad Phone:91-20-7150837
                  108, Maj, Qtr,
                  RDE Colony, email: leela_guru@...
                  Dighi,
                  Pune - 411 015
                  INDIA
                  _____________________________________________________________________


                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: Manas Misra [mailto:manas.misra@...]
                  Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:52 AM
                  To: indica-users@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [indica-users] Fuel Pipe rupture


                  I have joined this group yesterday and am owner of a LSi V2 for the past two
                  months. I wonder if any of you had any issue with the fuel line. About two
                  weeks ago I started getting very strong smell of petrol in the cabin while
                  running the AC. I had that checked thought the helpline (which was prompt
                  enough) and they found that the fuel line had a fine crack, thus releasing a
                  fine mist of petrol while the engine was on.

                  Although it was corrected, I thought that was a bit too early in a car's
                  life to have something of this sort.

                  Manas Misra
                  V2 LSi (Sep 01)
                  Mumbai




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