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  • Mario Mauricio
    Jul 1, 2005
      Thanks for your answers too Jim. As a new immigrant with a good job in my
      profession I agree with you in the importance for the newcomers to know the
      Canadian reality.

      What I'm not so sure is about your motivation to send us this "valuable"
      information. I just wanted to know if you're a xenophobic (sorry about the
      adjective) Canadian trying to keep out all those immigrants that come to
      YOUR country to take YOUR job: "Is this extreme competition good for
      Canadians and immigrants?" you say.
      That was the reason for my first and more important question, the only one
      you avoided.

      What I, and maybe the group, would appreciate is your advice, other than
      "don't come, in how to deal with this situation. Based in what you send, I'm
      sure you've found very good information about what a new immigrant should
      (or shouldn't) do in order to minimize all those odds. So, you could help
      the group by telling us the real "whole reality" of the immigration to
      Canada, and not only the ugly side of it (which is as dishonest as tell us
      only the pretty face of it). That way the newcomers will know all faces of
      immigration, what they probably should do, what opportunities and problems
      they'll find; so it will be really up to each one to make a decision about
      immigrating or not.

      Are you able, or willing, to give us that kind of information too?
      I hope yes.


      -----Mensaje original-----
      De: immigrationquebec@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:immigrationquebec@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Jim Davis
      Enviado el: ven. 1 juillet 2005 04:05
      Para: immigrationquebec@yahoogroups.com
      Asunto: RE: [ImmigrationQuebec] High Competition : Jim Davis

      Hi Mario,

      Thank you for the questions.

      - Where are you from? Why do you need to know Mario ?

      - Where do you live now? Ontario

      - If you were an employer, would you hire an immigrant? Why? Yes, if he/she
      has good qualifications, I would.

      -What would you think if an immigrant gets the job you're applying for? I
      would think exactly the same thing as if a Canadian born gets the job. They
      have the same rights to compete once they land in Canada. I will try to keep
      improving my skills and keep applying for more opportunities. What would you
      feel in this case Mario ?

      ..I just want to inform to prospective immigrants the reality of immigration
      in Canada. In my opinion, the Immigration system is not honest at all. There
      are many discriminative barriers for immigrants they are not properly
      informed about before applying. Canada is not prepared to absorb 275,000
      immigrants a year and give them what they expect as professionals. Some
      people may think is "good for economy", but actually it creates more
      unemployment, more competition for jobs, tax expenses, damages to the
      international image of Canada, security problems, repression, hate and
      resentment, corruption, etc.

      I truly believe that interests politicians and corporations are involved in
      this problem. More immigration creates more supply of skilled workers and
      more competition for jobs. This forces a decrease in salaries and benefits
      which means more profits for companies and more jobs for the mainstream.
      This conditions are very advantageous for corporations because it will make
      available more labor at much lower costs.

      Globalization may part of this issue. It's been criticized severely because
      of same kind of problems for employees. France recently rejected the new
      "Europe Union constitution" because thay knew that the opening of the labor
      market will lead to more jobs competition coming from workers of the poorer
      Eastern Europe countries. Is this extreme competition good for Canadians and
      immigrants ? Is the people of Canada well informed about Macroeconomic
      strategies ? I am attaching an interesting article about
      globalization...check it out !



      David Zussman
      Citizen Special

      May 23, 2005

      In Thomas Friedman's latest book, The World is Flat, he offers an
      interesting apology to readers for his failure to identify one of the most
      important global developments taking place in the past 10 years. With his
      attention turned toward understanding the impact of Sept. 11, 2001, on
      Americans, he admits to having missed the latest era of globalization that
      is transforming the world in a most radical way.

      Globalization 3, as he calls it, is "shrinking the world from a small size
      to a size tiny (sic) and flattening the playing field at the same time."

      Just what he means by claiming "the world is now flat" is so important an
      observation for Canada and Canadians that it deserves to suspend, for a
      brief moment, our ongoing interest in Belinda Stronach, the Gomery inquiry,
      and the consequences of last Thursday's House of Commons vote.

      In essence, Mr. Friedman's argument outlines three converging forces
      currently driving us to live and compete on a global, Internet-enabled
      "playing field that allows for multiple forms of collaboration -- the
      sharing of knowledge and work -- in real time, without regard to geography,
      distance, or, in the near future, even language."

      This complex observation recognizes that, around 2000, these forces began to
      build a momentum of their own. The first of these forces was the sudden
      opening up of the world as a result of the collapse of the Berlin Wall, the
      appearance of Netscape as the first general-use browser, changes in
      work-flow efficiencies, the emergence of job outsourcing and supply-chain
      management, and the development of myriad high-speed, miniaturized gadgets
      such as BlackBerrys and cellphones.

      In addition to technological advances, the second thing fuelling this
      convergence has been the emergence of a new generation of workplace
      managers, innovators and CEOs with new business practices who, by assuming
      more management responsibilities, began to replace the traditional
      command-and-control management style of earlier generations with a more
      collaborative approach. In short, explains Carly Fiorina, former CEO of
      Hewlett-Packard, "we have gone from a vertical chain of command for value
      creation to a much more horizontal chain of command for value creation."

      Finally, the third convergent force has been the sudden availability of a
      large amount of well-educated talent in a number of countries around the
      world. Not only did the demise of the Soviet Union create markets for new
      products and services, it also freed up millions of ambitious and motivated
      workers who joined Chinese and Indian workers in the search for challenging
      and rewarding employment. In all, more than three billion potential workers
      arrived on the scene at the same time as technology was flattening the

      The net effect has been the emergence of a highly skilled, motivated, and
      relatively inexpensive work force competing for the new collaborative jobs
      that are emerging in the work world. In Mr. Friedman's view, this triple
      convergence "of new players, on a new playing field, developing new
      processes and habits for horizontal collaboration, is the most important
      force shaping global economics and politics in the early 21st-century."

      There are a number of short-term consequences to this irreversible
      development. First, our concept of nation-state needs redefinition, since
      the Internet challenges our traditional notions of boundaries and laws (for
      example those pertaining to copyright or intellectual property). This will
      force us to be more articulate about the kind of country we want to preserve
      in light of the pressures to conform to a more globally driven set of values
      and beliefs.

      Second, there will also be a new desire to question the legitimate role of
      government in a flat world where authorities are limited by jurisdiction and
      citizens will want government protection from cheap suppliers who take away
      domestic jobs but offer low-price consumer goods.

      Finally, the role of politicians will have to change dramatically. A
      significant part of their responsibilities will be to explain to citizens
      "what world they are living in" and what they will have to do to ensure that
      they reap the benefits as it converges and flattens.

      The implications of this new world order are considerable for Canada and
      should serve as a call to action to our business, academic, professional and
      political leaders. The impact of the triple convergence will significantly
      alter how people prepare for work, how companies compete with one another,
      how countries organize their economies and how nations relate to one
      another. Moreover, it also seems likely that, with a flatter, more
      integrated world, our political identities will be redefined with the
      disappearance of traditional political borders.

      Once Parliament deals with its current paralysis, we need our
      parliamentarians to seriously take on some of the more lasting and
      challenging issues of the day. Our future depends on it.

      David Zussman is chief operating officer at EKOS Research Associates and a
      professor of management at the University of Ottawa.

      E-mail: dzussman@...

      Mario Mauricio <mnicolasmh@...> wrote:Jim, four questions for you

      Where are you from?
      Where do you live now?
      If you were an employer, would you hire an immigrant? Why?
      What would you think if an immigrant gets the job you`re applying for?

      I know you`re HONEST, so I expect HONEST answers.


      -----Mensaje original-----
      De: immigrationquebec@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:immigrationquebec@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Jim Davis
      Enviado el: jeu. 30 juin 2005 03:47
      Para: immigrationquebec@yahoogroups.com
      Asunto: Re: [ImmigrationQuebec] Regarding jim_davis2005 posts...

      Dear Members,

      Thank you Robert.

      I think this group is made of people aspiring to have a Better Level of Life
      immigrating to Canada. In consequence, all information related to this
      objective should be welcomed. Real experiences and objective information
      about the reality of Quebec and Canada is the best and most HONEST way to
      help foreign professionals to take the right decision about immigration.
      Misinformation or lack of information is one of the real problems of
      applicants to immigration, so I believe that members of this group will be
      very grateful for having access to all the information about the pros and
      cons of immigration to Canada. The process to immigrate to Canada is not
      complicated at all. The real chalenge starts after landing in Canada.

      In my opinion, the members of this group should make the final desicion
      about ignoring or not the information that I have been sending during the
      last days.

      All the best,

      de_lacroixr <delacroixr@...> wrote:
      Dear members,
      The description of this group is very clear:
      "This is a new group for people aspiring to migrate to Quebec,
      It is for us to share all pertinent information with one another to
      facilitate our applications for immigration to Quebec. Please feel
      free to join us."
      Our Yahoo group is about immigration to Quebec and anyone aspiring TO
      IMMIGRATE to Quebec is welcome to join. We are here "to share all
      pertinent information with one another to FACILITATE our applications
      for immigration to Quebec".
      However, this is NOT the case of jim_davis2005 since the topic(s)
      he/she is bringing to the group does(do) not fit the description of
      our group. Therefore, I suggest ignoring his/her messages.
      P.S. I wrote he/she because you never know who's on the other end...


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