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• While depicting her power is quite easy (Duplication 2), problem arises when giving it its fine details. She is able to split herself in three different
Message 1 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013

While depicting her power is quite easy (Duplication 2), problem arises when giving it its fine details. She is able to split herself in three different bodies, instantaneously. According to Great Power, it takes a
page of preparation to create a duplicate. Should I give her a Limit: Max Only or two Extras: Instant and Multiple?
• I don t know the character. Possibly both if she can only split into three people total. Also, the instantaneously I question. Does it mean that while in the
Message 2 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
I don't know the character. Possibly both if she can only split into three people total.

Also, the instantaneously I question. Does it mean that while in the middle of being punched by someone that she can split up? Or can she just split up at will? Remember that a page is not a significantly long time, only a few seconds at most.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Fabrício César Franco wrote:

While depicting her power is quite easy (Duplication 2), problem arises when giving it its fine details. She is able to split herself in three different bodies, instantaneously. According to Great Power, it takes a
page of preparation to create a duplicate. Should I give her a Limit: Max Only or two Extras: Instant and Multiple?

• In reading about her in the DC Comics Encyclopedia and Wikipedia, I would say she d had Duplication 2, Extra: Multiple, Extra: Instant. ... In reading about
Message 3 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
In reading about her in the DC Comics Encyclopedia and Wikipedia, I would say she'd had Duplication 2, Extra: Multiple, Extra: Instant.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Cameron Mount wrote:
I don't know the character. Possibly both if she can only split into three people total.

Also, the instantaneously I question. Does it mean that while in the middle of being punched by someone that she can split up? Or can she just split up at will? Remember that a page is not a significantly long time, only a few seconds at most.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Fabrício César Franco wrote:

While depicting her power is quite easy (Duplication 2), problem arises when giving it its fine details. She is able to split herself in three different bodies, instantaneously. According to Great Power, it takes a
page of preparation to create a duplicate. Should I give her a Limit: Max Only or two Extras: Instant and Multiple?

• Thank you, Cameron. I thought at doing it this way at first, but when I read about Max Only Limit, I got confused. Thanks for clarifying it to me. Another
Message 4 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
Thank you, Cameron. I thought at doing it this way at first, but when I read about Max Only Limit, I got confused. Thanks for clarifying it to me.

Another question: would it cost 4 points total, having two extras added to the power? Instead of counting a power with level 2, would be three powers with the same level?

Fabrício Franco
• Max Only is really meant for things like superstrength characters that can t pull punches or speedsters who can t run at slower speeds. In this case, it
Message 5 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
Max Only is really meant for things like superstrength characters that can't pull punches or speedsters who can't run at slower speeds. In this case, it wouldn't actually be a limitation on the character.

I don't know how Extras work with point-buys. I'm sure Steve's addressed it somewhere, For rolled characters, they take the place of a whole power that's rolled and count against starting determination.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Fabrício César Franco wrote:

Thank you, Cameron. I thought at doing it this way at first, but when I read about Max Only Limit, I got confused. Thanks for clarifying it to me.

Another question: would it cost 4 points total, having two extras added to the power? Instead of counting a power with level 2, would be three powers with the same level?

Fabrício Franco

• Where would I find Steve s answer to that? In Great Power it isn t stated clearly, I m afraid.
Message 6 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
Where would I find Steve's answer to that? In Great Power it isn't stated clearly, I'm afraid.

• I m pretty sure Cameron s right. If you read the section on Extras, it mentions nothing about an Extra in and of itself costing points, but it does affect
Message 7 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
I'm pretty sure Cameron's right.

If you read the section on Extras, it mentions nothing about an Extra in and of itself costing points, but it does affect starting Determination.

If nothing else, notice in the section on Limits that it mentions that one of the uses of a Limit is to "add an extra to the power without increasing its starting Determination value".

Now, if an Extra is for something like another power that has ranks, then you pay the points for those ranks *and* count it against your starting Determination.

So something like

Blast 6
-Extra: Burst

Would cost 6 points and 2 powers for the purposes of calculating starting Determination.

Of course, you could take a Limit on to make it count as one power, and then throw on another Limit to raise the power level 2 points to 8 (but still only pay 6 if you wanted).

I'm pretty sure I saw Steve address this in an example someone had, but I couldn't find it with a quick search.

I'll look again when I get some time.

--- In icons-rpg@yahoogroups.com, Fabrício César Franco <fabfranco@...> wrote:
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> Where would I find Steve's answer to that? In Great Power it isn't stated
> clearly, I'm afraid.
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• Jonathan, I was able to find Steve s answer to that. Extras count the same number of points in point-buy. Thanks for your reply!
Message 8 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
Jonathan, I was able to find Steve's answer to that. Extras count the same number of points in point-buy.

• Fabricio, if you don t mind, could you link to that explanation? I d like to keep it handy, maybe print and paperclip to my book. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:06
Message 9 of 10 , Jun 29, 2013
Fabricio, if you don't mind, could you link to that explanation? I'd like to keep it handy, maybe print and paperclip to my book.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Fabrício César Franco wrote:

Jonathan, I was able to find Steve's answer to that. Extras count the same number of points in point-buy.