Generally, I treat it as a freebie. Vehicles get used as a story element--none
of my players happen to have a character that makes heavy use of vehicles. You
need to get to place X? Here. (For the Jailbreak story, I gave them access to an
Armed Forces teleporter, but should they ever try to use it again, they'll find
he has retired and has his own demands.)
In story, the base is a gathering place and a containment spot for one
supervillain. (And that's relatively new; I don't know how it will play out.
They have Wraith, and don't trust a government facility, not that there is one
they know of.)
If they wanted to say, "And the base has a collection of books that adds +1 to
my Occult specialty" that would cost a Determination (a lab, of sorts). If they
needed the motor on the base (a moored old cargo ship) to work, that would cost
a Determination point. If they want features besides the basic (a gathering
place with beds and a
Unlike Brandon, I've never seen a sidekick because the player wanted one. I've
foisted them off on players, but never had one ask for a sidekick.
On the other hand, I design adventures (or modify them) with the current stats
of bases and vehicles in mind. I suspect my model is this:
* It costs a determination point (not a starting determination, just a
determination point) for what I deem a reasonable feature: something that is
reasonable for a boat that has been a superhero headquarters for thirty-plus
years. That's just a kind of retcon.
* It costs a starting determination point if I think it is an unreasonable
feature. ("We fight crime in our neighbourhood, but I want the vehicle to be
able to go to the Moon!" or perhaps, "There is a gateway to the dimension of the
fire-people right in this closet, and we fight Inferna on a weekly basis!")
John McMullen (Young old coot)
----- Original Message ----
From: Kevin <kevinryanvt@...
Sent: Mon, July 11, 2011 11:37:38 PM
Subject: [icons-rpg] Handling Bases/Vehicles/Sidekicks...oh my
Ok, I know Icons Team-Up is on it's way, but I'd like to know how various
playing groups handle things like sidekicks, vehicles and bases. The rules say
that spending a point of determination on a team allows you to use such a thing,
like a vehicle or base, or sometimes it's just a freebie. How do you handle it?
1. If a Team can spend determination to use a vehicle or base, shouldn't a
single hero be able to do the same thing? (kind of an easy call)
2. Can one access a sidekick via determination? How bout like the Duplication
power, only instead of a duplicate, you get a minion?
3. How powerful should a sidekick, minion or base be? Since Duplication lets
you have someone the same as you, can they be equally powerful, in terms of
.....that sort of thing.
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