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  • Pangaban1
    Hi all, What possible common denominator could pervade a world as big as ours, so ubiquitous that your battle for quiet and sleep is mine here in the south of
    Message 1 of 7 , Jan 16, 2014
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      Hi all,
      What possible common denominator could pervade a world as big as ours, so ubiquitous that your battle for quiet and sleep is mine here in the south of Africa. Each one may have a pet theory and that's good and well for sanity. (Our gas is shipped in and trucked inland by road  so no pipelines to blame.) I watch the youtube interviews with great interest. Thanks. And I think the BioInitiative scientists are right to point out that much of the tech used freely around the globe has not been tested on humans (we are bioelectrical systems) to know it's safe (hum, increase in childhood autism,  and cancers ... Steve Jobs a high profile casuality) Like you in America, we have unchecked growth of telecommunications infrastructure that pervades the cities and countryside.  The hum kept me awake  four hours' drive from here into the bush last July. On closer inspection I found two mobile transmission towers on hills either side of the chalet my husband and I were in. Just saying.
      Mobiles came after the first reliable hum reports, some 25 years after the Second World War when relatively advanced military telecoms systems took shape.  The evolved technology has long since been folded into civilian application. Whatever frequency is in play and whatever the source, we can hear what other nonhearers are being bombarded by every day. 
       I'm in the 'man-made' camp. I do not blame the military for today's hum .. at least not western if the latest youtube interview by the physics prof is considered re Haarp. How do we get the attention of public policymakers and meaningful research grants?  What was the outcome of the Winsor investigation in Canada last year, does anyone know yet?
      It was quiet here over the holidays but once the city fired up again from January 6 the hum started up with a vengence. Perhaps it is coincidence.  Only Mondays and Tuesdays are bearable, a thin whine in the sky. For the remainder of the week it sounds like a big engine running just outside. I also wonder if it somehow travels in giant waves; when it's quiet here it's loud at the antipode and  alternate locals inbetween. 
      I have been subjected to the hum for 13 months now and can hardly believe what has happened to me, to us. I sold my house to escape it and sheer fatigue drove me out of my job. It was only a few months ago that I learned about the hum and, while relieved to know I was not alone and it is real, I doubt I would have taken such drastic action had I known.  Then again, had I not moved to this little cottage across the city the lady who told me of the hum phenomenon would not have crossed my path.
      Blessings in disguise,
      Lisle



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    • bluefalcon8881
      Hey Lisle, My wife is in Bloemfontein visiting her parents at the moment,she is living in New Zealand since 1997 She tells me the hum is very loud there at
      Message 2 of 7 , Jan 17, 2014
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        Hey Lisle,


        My wife is in Bloemfontein visiting her parents at the moment,she is living in New Zealand since 1997


        She tells me the hum is very loud there at night when it is quite, very similar to what we hear in Auckland


        I am in the "man made camp" as well, I've been hearing it since 1998 and its 24/7 now

        I have tried to come to terms with it as there is no escape here  in New Zealand


        Only time I can turn it off is when I am in my pool, under water, at 2 meters, AFTER I have equalized the pressure in my ears.......I can then still hear, very clearly, my Tinnitus and all the other ambient and surrounding sounds, but NO hum, it is pure bliss 


        I cant hold my breath forever so that is not a cure for the hum.......but,it might put some light on what causes us to perceive the hum ( Maybe a smart ENT Specialist )


        Regards

        blue

      • Soozie
        Personally, I feel that we should research what happens to the ear as we age. It s obvious that age is a factor here, so something changes in our ears as we
        Message 3 of 7 , Jan 17, 2014
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          Personally, I feel that we should research what happens to the ear as we age. It's obvious that age is a factor here, so something changes in our ears as we age. Question is what exactly changed in our ears? Everyone else doesn't hear it why is that? What's different about our ears? Who can we consult to find these answers? Is the causal agent the same for most all of us,(Lydia aside since she has already said what her issues are)? What could be done to help us restore our ears to the way everyone else is?
          Suzie



          From: "bluefalcon8881@..." <bluefalcon8881@...>
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          Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:37 PM
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          Hey Lisle,

          My wife is in Bloemfontein visiting her parents at the moment,she is living in New Zealand since 1997

          She tells me the hum is very loud there at night when it is quite, very similar to what we hear in Auckland

          I am in the "man made camp" as well, I've been hearing it since 1998 and its 24/7 now
          I have tried to come to terms with it as there is no escape here  in New Zealand

          Only time I can turn it off is when I am in my pool, under water, at 2 meters, AFTER I have equalized the pressure in my ears.......I can then still hear, very clearly, my Tinnitus and all the other ambient and surrounding sounds, but NO hum, it is pure bliss 

          I cant hold my breath forever so that is not a cure for the hum.......but,it might put some light on what causes us to perceive the hum ( Maybe a smart ENT Specialist )

          Regards
          blue


        • shoemakerj18
          Re, How do we get the attention of public policymakers and meaningful research grants? Had an idea while sitting up sleepless. Don’t know if it is a viable
          Message 4 of 7 , Jan 17, 2014
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            Re, How do we get the attention of public policymakers and meaningful research grants?  

             

            Had an idea while sitting up sleepless. Don’t know if it is a viable one, or has already been tried, but here it is.

             

            Contact the World Day

             

            On a given day, everyone emails or tweets a given news or other agency (to be decided)

            With enough participation, it might move hummers into the normal zone

             

            Gather the People

            Determine if it is even a good idea (would it hurt of help?)

            Everyone the various hum groups has any record of would be contacted to participate (Assuming that the various systems even allow access to e-mail addresses)

            Messages would also be posted anyplace that hummers might lurk

             

            Determine if enough people have been signed on

            Contact information would be given out

            Everyone would send message

            Hopefully, the sun, birds, and butterfly’s would all come out at once (OK, so I made that up)

             

            Someone would have to coordinate the effort

            Preferably an experienced coordinator

            Previous “send in the letters” campaign experience would be helpful

             

            Need people with knowledge of social media places and procedures

            Also people to do contact work

            And of course, someone who knows what else would be needed to be done

             

            Jerry

             

             

             

          • Mary Gaylor
            As we become older we lose the ability to hear the higher so called protective frequencies, which mask, in some ways lower frequencies and we are able to hear
            Message 5 of 7 , Jan 18, 2014
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              As we become older we lose the ability to hear the higher so called protective frequencies, which mask, in some ways lower frequencies and we are able to hear things we may not have done when we were younger.
               
              But I don't think this is what is going on here...I think it is high frequencies we can hear.  The wireless technology industry has exploded in the last few years and I personally think this is a major problem, and now there are talks about what is to be done about higher frequency usage  UHF.
               
              I heard the hum when I was in my early teenage years in the early 1970s, my mother could hear it as well, but that was just late at night when listening out for someone to arrive back home.  I didn't notice it again until I was in my late teens and again only when I was listening out for someone to come home late at night.
               
              This is a link to the next part of the story, if anyone is interested : /  and much more information.  I have three thread on another forum....History, Diary and information.
              Oh, and it not a noisy neighbour issue, I was invited onto this forum to keep a record...
            • Mary Gaylor
              I think this is an excellent idea. In sweden being affected by radio waves is seen as a disability. I for one, suffer the whole kit and kaboodle.....I can
              Message 6 of 7 , Jan 18, 2014
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                I think this is an excellent idea.  In sweden being affected by radio waves is seen as a disability. I for one, suffer the whole kit and kaboodle.....I can hear radio frequency/the means by which it is sent ie pulsed microwave (the hum), energy impulses, I can feel the electro magnetic energy....I am in severe pain most of the time.
                 
                On the list of organisations to contact in the UK should be....
                 
                 
                It would be of huge impact if lots of people from the UK contacted them with their stories.  They have all my information and diary.  Every bit of information helps.
                 
                Kind Regards
                 
                Mary
                 
                 
                 
                 
              • Cottrell, Danyele Marie
                Is anyone familiar with setting up a ‘cause’ on Causes? https://www.causes.com/ I have received over 100 of these and it seems to be a fantastic way to
                Message 7 of 7 , Jan 21, 2014
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                  Is anyone familiar with setting up a ‘cause’ on Causes?

                  https://www.causes.com/
                  I have received over 100 of these and it seems to be a fantastic way to spread the word and get signatures for petitions, etc.

                   

                  I’m not familiar with setting one up, but I bet someone on here is.  If not, I would accept any help from others to work on getting one going and sent to the correct people in DC.

                   

                  Just another thought after reading shoemaker’s note below.

                   

                   

                  From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shoemakerj18@...
                  Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:50 AM
                  To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: HUM_FORUM: RE: Fluctuations galore

                   

                   

                  Re, How do we get the attention of public policymakers and meaningful research grants?  

                   

                  Had an idea while sitting up sleepless. Don’t know if it is a viable one, or has already been tried, but here it is.

                   

                  Contact the World Day

                   

                  On a given day, everyone emails or tweets a given news or other agency (to be decided)

                  With enough participation, it might move hummers into the normal zone

                   

                  Gather the People

                  Determine if it is even a good idea (would it hurt of help?)

                  Everyone the various hum groups has any record of would be contacted to participate (Assuming that the various systems even allow access to e-mail addresses)

                  Messages would also be posted anyplace that hummers might lurk

                   

                  Determine if enough people have been signed on

                  Contact information would be given out

                  Everyone would send message

                  Hopefully, the sun, birds, and butterfly’s would all come out at once (OK, so I made that up)

                   

                  Someone would have to coordinate the effort

                  Preferably an experienced coordinator

                  Previous “send in the letters” campaign experience would be helpful

                   

                  Need people with knowledge of social media places and procedures

                  Also people to do contact work

                  And of course, someone who knows what else would be needed to be done

                   

                  Jerry

                   

                   

                   

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