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  • Jerry Cummings
    I am hearing a change in the hum at different times. I do not know if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have been hearing for years
    Message 1 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013
      I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
      if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
      been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
      two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
      sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
      phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
      "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
      - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
      seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
      that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
      something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
      ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?
    • denise benedetto
      At times the Hum will pulsate in my home,however lately it has been constant. Has anyone thought about the underground water tables being a cause of the hum?
      Message 2 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013
        At times the Hum will pulsate
        in my home,however lately it has been constant. Has anyone thought about the underground water tables being a cause of the hum? Just putting it out there.

        Dee

        Jerry Cummings <futures8@...> wrote:

         

        I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
        if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
        been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
        two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
        sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
        phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
        "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
        - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
        seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
        that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
        something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
        ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

      • Geoff Carlaw
        The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched
        Message 3 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013
          The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 
           
          Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

          From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
          To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
          Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
           
          I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
          if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
          been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
          two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
          sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
          phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
          "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
          - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
          seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
          that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
          something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
          ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

        • Cottrell, Danyele Marie
          At it s worse this past spring, we also had a very noticeable pulsing sound which made our eardrums pulsate. The analogy I used was the feeling one gets when
          Message 4 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013

            At it’s worse this past spring, we also had a very noticeable pulsing sound which made our eardrums pulsate.  The analogy I used was the feeling one gets when driving in a car with only one window cracked open which makes your eardrums vibrate and feel weird.

             

             

            Was it Lidia in this group that was going to have a surgical procedure done on her ears?  How did that turn out if you did have it done?

             

            From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Cummings
            Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:10 AM
            To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"

             

             

            I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
            if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
            been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
            two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
            sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
            phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
            "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
            - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
            seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
            that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
            something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
            ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

          • wfbarto
            I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly higher pitch to it now. I have also noticed that when it
            Message 5 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013
              I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly "higher" pitch to it now.  I have also noticed that when it is the loudest that it has a significant "resonance" to it.  I believe this is what causes the pulsating effect.  As you breathe in and out, the inner ear pressure varies, and as you do this, it causes the hum to have a pulsating effect.  I think that when you do this it alternately interrupts the hum's "resonance" effect.  Try plugging your nose with your hand and then attempting to blow air out with your mouth closed..... then let go of your hand from your nose.  I think you will notice what I am talking about....

              Strangely... the hum volume has dropped off again over the last 24 hours.  It did not disappear completely, but last night it was much quieter than the preceding nights.  We shall see where it goes from here!

               



              ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

              The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 
               
              Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

              From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
              To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
              Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
               
              I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
              if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
              been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
              two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
              sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
              phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
              "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
              - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
              seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
              that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
              something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
              ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

            • lidia1313
              Hi, Danyele, I still haven t had the surgery on my tensor tympani, I need to wait until December to see an otoneurologist. One of the doctors I contacted said
              Message 6 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013

                Hi, Danyele,


                I still haven't had the surgery on my tensor tympani, I need to wait until December to see an otoneurologist. One of the doctors I contacted said that it can be managed by medications but I am reluctant to take any medications (apart from the natural herbs and probably ayurvedic approach). The other doctor can perform the surgery but he warned me that though I will not lose my hearing, I will be hearing in a different way... I am still pondering on which option to chose, but I am 100% convinced that I suffer from middle ear myoclonus (have heard and felt it like a fluttering in my ear many nights and mornings)...  In any case, I will let you know of the outcome!


                Danyele, there is a German researched who has done its extensive research on the Hum and the MEM and presented it in 40 pages on the German Brum (Hum) forum. I also think that he has linked this to the electricity. Here is the link for you to read:

                http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani


                I recall that you know German and have helped Glen for the Huminfo site. I am not using German at all and I struggled to get a sensible translation through the Google translator. If you are interested and have some time, may you be able to go through this research and give us some insight of the main points? I have already asked a friend, a Hum sufferer to help me with translating this but it is a task too much time consuming for one person to do...


                There is someone of the Google Hum sufferers group, Barry Fletcher, who is about to explain of why the Hum stops and starts for some of us (is it cyclic?). He needs as many as possible Hum sufferers to lead a diary for the month of October and just answer the question whether they have heard the Hum around 9 pm (no matter which geographical area), then send him back the survey. For those interested to participate, please visit the Google groups forum and fill in the logs page which is attached there. Hopefully he will throw some light on this issue very soon.


                Take care,

                Regards,


                Lidia



                ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <wfbarto@...> wrote:

                I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly "higher" pitch to it now.  I have also noticed that when it is the loudest that it has a significant "resonance" to it.  I believe this is what causes the pulsating effect.  As you breathe in and out, the inner ear pressure varies, and as you do this, it causes the hum to have a pulsating effect.  I think that when you do this it alternately interrupts the hum's "resonance" effect.  Try plugging your nose with your hand and then attempting to blow air out with your mouth closed..... then let go of your hand from your nose.  I think you will notice what I am talking about....

                Strangely... the hum volume has dropped off again over the last 24 hours.  It did not disappear completely, but last night it was much quieter than the preceding nights.  We shall see where it goes from here!

                 



                ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 
                 
                Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

                From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
                To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
                Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
                 
                I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
                if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
                been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
                two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
                sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
                phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
                "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
                - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
                seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
                that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
                something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
                ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

              • Cottrell, Danyele Marie
                Thanks for sharing ! I will work on the translation but it may be a little while as i am positive i will need help and will ask my mother in law. Thank you!
                Message 7 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013
                  Thanks for sharing !   I will work on the translation but it may be a little while as i am positive i will need help and will ask my mother in law.  
                  Thank you!

                  Sent from my iPhone so please pardon typos and auto-corrects

                  On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:34 PM, "lidia1313@..." <lidia1313@...> wrote:

                   

                  Hi, Danyele,


                  I still haven't had the surgery on my tensor tympani, I need to wait until December to see an otoneurologist. One of the doctors I contacted said that it can be managed by medications but I am reluctant to take any medications (apart from the natural herbs and probably ayurvedic approach). The other doctor can perform the surgery but he warned me that though I will not lose my hearing, I will be hearing in a different way... I am still pondering on which option to chose, but I am 100% convinced that I suffer from middle ear myoclonus (have heard and felt it like a fluttering in my ear many nights and mornings)...  In any case, I will let you know of! the outcome!


                  Danyele, there is a German researched who has done its extensive research on the Hum and the MEM and presented it in 40 pages on the German Brum (Hum) forum. I also think that he has linked this to the electricity. Here is the link for you to read:

                  http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani


                  I recall that you know German and have helped Glen for the Huminfo site. I am not using German at all and I struggled to get a sensible translation through the Google translator. If you are interested and have some time, may you be able to go through this research and give us some insight of the main points? I have already asked a friend, a Hum sufferer to help me with translating this but it is a task too much time consuming for one person to do...


                  There is someone of the Google Hum sufferers group, Barry Fletcher, who is about to explain of why the Hum stops and starts for some of us (is it cyclic?). He needs as many as possible Hum sufferers to lead a diary for the mont! h of October and just answer the question whether they have heard the Hum around 9 pm (no matter which geographical area), then send him back the survey. For those interested to participate, please visit the Google groups forum and fill in the logs page which is attached there. Hopefully he will throw some light on this issue very soon.


                  Take care,

                  Regards,


                  Lidia



                  ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <wfbarto@...> wrote:

                  I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly "higher" pitch to it now.  I have also noticed that when it is the loudest that it has a significant "resonance" to it.  I believe this is what causes the pulsating effect.  As you breathe in and out, the inner ear pressure varies, and as you do this, it causes the hum to have a pulsating effect.  I think that when you do this it alternately interrupts the hum's "resonance" effect.  Try plugging your nose with your hand and then attempting to blow air out with your mouth closed..... then let go of your hand from your nose.  I think you will notice what I am talking about....

                  Strangely... the hum volume has dropped off again over th! e last 24 hours.  It did not disappear completely, but last night it was much quieter than the preceding nights.  We shall see where it goes from here!

                   



                  ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                  The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 
                   
                  Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

                  From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
                  To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
                  Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
                   
                  I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
                  if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
                  been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
                  two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
                  sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
                  phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
                  "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
                  - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
                  seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
                  that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
                  something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
                  ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

                  !

                • Copsne
                  Lidia. Are you saying you cant mask the problem with all the suggestions of on the forum? The problem is not solvable by surgery. Your a smart lady, and seen
                  Message 8 of 12 , Oct 3, 2013
                    Lidia. Are you saying you cant mask the problem with all the suggestions of on the forum?  The problem is not solvable by surgery. Your a smart lady, and seen that even deaf people sense the hum. 

                    Venture carefully to the surgery
                    Steve

                    Sent from Steve's iPhone and I appologize for typo's

                    On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:14 PM, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@...> wrote:

                     

                    Thanks for sharing !   I will work on the translation but it may be a little while as i am positive i will need help and will ask my mother in law.  
                    Thank you!

                    Sent from my iPhone so please pardon typos and auto-corrects

                    On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:34 PM, "lidia1313@..." <lidia1313@...> wrote:

                     

                    Hi, Danyele,


                    I still haven't had the surgery on my tensor tympani, I need to wait until December to see an otoneurologist. One of the doctors I contacted said that it can be managed by medications but I am reluctant to take any medications (apart from the natural herbs and probably ayurvedic approach). The other doctor can perform the surgery but he warned me that though I will not lose my hearing, I will be hearing in a different way... I am still pondering on which option to chose, but I am 100% convinced that I suffer from middle ear myoclonus (have heard and felt it like a fluttering in my ear many nights and mornings)...  In any case, I will let you know of! the outcome!


                    Danyele, there is a German researched who has done its extensive research on the Hum and the MEM and presented it in 40 pages on the German Brum (Hum) forum. I also think that he has linked this to the electricity. Here is the link for you to read:

                    http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani


                    I recall that you know German and have helped Glen for the Huminfo site. I am not using German at all and I struggled to get a sensible translation through the Google translator. If you are interested and have some time, may you be able to go through this research and give us some insight of the main points? I have already asked a friend, a Hum sufferer to help me with translating this but it is a task too much time consuming for one person to do...


                    There is someone of the Google Hum sufferers group, Barry Fletcher, who is about to explain of why the Hum stops and starts for some of us (is it cyclic?). He needs as many as possible Hum sufferers to lead a diary for the mont! h of October and just answer the question whether they have heard the Hum around 9 pm (no matter which geographical area), then send him back the survey. For those interested to participate, please visit the Google groups forum and fill in the logs page which is attached there. Hopefully he will throw some light on this issue very soon.


                    Take care,

                    Regards,


                    Lidia



                    ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <wfbarto@...> wrote:

                    I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly "higher" pitch to it now.  I have also noticed that when it is the loudest that it has a significant "resonance" to it.  I believe this is what causes the pulsating effect.  As you breathe in and out, the inner ear pressure varies, and as you do this, it causes the hum to have a pulsating effect.  I think that when you do this it alternately interrupts the hum's "resonance" effect.  Try plugging your nose with your hand and then attempting to blow air out with your mouth closed..... then let go of your hand from your nose.  I think you will notice what I am talking about....

                    Strangely... the hum volume has dropped off again over th! e last 24 hours.  It did not disappear completely, but last night it was much quieter than the preceding nights.  We shall see where it goes from here!

                     



                    ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                    The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 
                     
                    Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

                    From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
                    To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
                    Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
                     
                    I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
                    if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
                    been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
                    two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
                    sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
                    phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
                    "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
                    - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
                    seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
                    that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
                    something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
                    ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

                    !

                  • lidia1313
                    Hi, Steve, Unfortunately for me string207 does not work, and I am not trying to mask the Hum but to de-tune my body and ear response from it. If one day I
                    Message 9 of 12 , Oct 4, 2013
                      Hi, Steve,
                      Unfortunately for me "string207" does not work, and I am not trying to mask the Hum but to de-tune my body and ear response from it. If one day I was a non hearer, then I could reverse the body condition and through a specific dietary change (it takes long and seems to be like shooting around without aim sometimes), come back to "normality" (if non hearing this is the norm).
                      I have stated in my previous messages that deaf people most probably hear the Hum as they have damaged outer hair cells (these are responsible for frequency modulation and get damaged when a hearing loss occurs). Cutting though the problem for me would be a radical thing, like the tensor tympani surgery. Why I am so convinced? Many people with tensor tymapni myoclonus have reported symptoms similar to the hum hearers (thumping, thudding, fluttering etc.). Once the surgery performed, their symptoms dissapeared. I am not saying that the Hum will dissapear, but probably my sensitivity to it will decrease, thus saving me from long years of insanity, alienation and depression. And at the end, there is this German research which is worth trying to read and understand. Thank you, Danyele, for your cooperation! I hope you'll get something for yourself from it.
                      It is impossible to stop the Hum, fighting with the big corporations responsible for it is like David vs. Goliath, but with no happy end to this story.
                      I mentioned before that one could try and contact Erin Brockovich, as you have done, Steve, before. Maybe if you show her your map of the Hum and make her compare it with her map (of cancer clusters and water contamination), you could win her on your side to help...
                      Best wishes to all,
                      Lidia

                       



                      ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                      Lidia. Are you saying you cant mask the problem with all the suggestions of on the forum?  The problem is not solvable by surgery. Your a smart lady, and seen that even deaf people sense the hum. 

                      Venture carefully to the surgery
                      Steve

                      Sent from Steve's iPhone and I appologize for typo's

                      On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:14 PM, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@...> wrote:

                       

                      Thanks for sharing !   I will work on the translation but it may be a little while as i am positive i will need help and will ask my mother in law.  
                      Thank you!

                      Sent from my iPhone so please pardon typos and auto-corrects

                      On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:34 PM, "lidia1313@..." <lidia1313@...> wrote:

                       

                      Hi, Danyele,


                      I still haven't had the surgery on my tensor tympani, I need to wait until December to see an otoneurologist. One of the doctors I contacted said that it can be managed by medications but I am reluctant to take any medications (apart from the natural herbs and probably ayurvedic approach). The other doctor can perform the surgery but he warned me that though I will not lose my hearing, I will be hearing in a different way... I am still pondering on which option to chose, but I am 100% convinced that I suffer from middle ear myoclonus (have heard and felt it like a fluttering in my ear many nights and mornings)...  In any case, I will let you know of! the outcome!


                      Danyele, there is a German researched who has done its extensive research on the Hum and the MEM and presented it in 40 pages on the German Brum (Hum) forum. I also think that he has linked this to the electricity. Here is the link for you to read:

                      http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani


                      I recall that you know German and have helped Glen for the Huminfo site. I am not using German at all and I struggled to get a sensible translation through the Google translator. If you are interested and have some time, may you be able to go through this research and give us some insight of the main points? I have already asked a friend, a Hum sufferer to help me with translating this but it is a task too much time consuming for one person to do...


                      There is someone of the Google Hum sufferers group, Barry Fletcher, who is about to explain of why the Hum stops and starts for some of us (is it cyclic?). He needs as many as possible Hum sufferers to lead a diary for the mont! h of October and just answer the question whether they have heard the Hum around 9 pm (no matter which geographical area), then send him back the survey. For those interested to participate, please visit the Google groups forum and fill in the logs page which is attached there. Hopefully he will throw some light on this issue very soon.


                      Take care,

                      Regards,


                      Lidia



                      ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <wfbarto@...> wrote:

                      I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly "higher" pitch to it now.  I have also noticed that when it is the loudest that it has a significant "resonance" to it.  I believe this is what causes the pulsating effect.  As you breathe in and out, the inner ear pressure varies, and as you do this, it causes the hum to have a pulsating effect.  I think that when you do this it alternately interrupts the hum's "resonance" effect.  Try plugging your nose with your hand and then attempting to blow air out with your mouth closed..... then let go of your hand from your nose.  I think you will notice what I am talking about....

                      Strangely... the hum volume has dropped off again over th! e last 24 hours.  It did not disappear completely, but last night it was much quieter than the preceding nights.  We shall see where it goes from here!

                       



                      ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                      The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 
                       
                      Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

                      From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
                      To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
                      Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
                       
                      I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
                      if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
                      been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
                      two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
                      sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
                      phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
                      "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
                      - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
                      seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
                      that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
                      something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
                      ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

                      !
                    • Stringpickin
                      Not alone.. Years ago when I heard the hum it was a constant steady drone.. The last 5 years I when I have heard it,, it is much more like what you describe
                      Message 10 of 12 , Oct 4, 2013
                        Not alone.. Years ago when I heard the hum it was a constant steady
                        drone.. The last 5 years I when I have heard it,, it is much more like what
                        you describe as it being morphed into.. When I begin to realize it is
                        back,, first I notice that upsetting drone come on like just out of nowhere
                        and get the sinking feeling in my gut,, then it will start doing its
                        cycling and pulsating and etc. etc. etc varying its miserable self with no
                        real pattern.. What a depressing feeling when I "hear" the hum is back.

                        But so far this year I am still completely hum free.. going on must be 8 or
                        9 months.. I only wish the rest of you could say the same..

                        All the best..

                        As a side note.. if you have not tried the 207 blocking tone/with or without
                        the white noise.. many humlings do find it can effectively block it out if
                        used properly.. they are both in the files section..

                        string

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                        Of Jerry Cummings
                        Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:10 AM
                        To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"

                        I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know if it
                        is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have been hearing
                        for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about two weeks - it is a
                        rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual, sought a source within my home
                        with absolutely NO success. This phantom hum may be somewhere near my house
                        or could even be here "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device
                        that is changing
                        - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at seeking out
                        the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself that this
                        debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into something more
                        sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my ear drums. Am I along in
                        this "new" noise?




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                      • Steve Kohlhase
                        Hey String, I did hear the hum in Carmel, not in the Cruz.  Maybe just not in a good hum listening spot.  As I have found 2 hummers from the Cruz.
                        Message 11 of 12 , Oct 4, 2013
                          Hey String, I did hear the hum in Carmel, not in the Cruz.  Maybe just not in a good hum listening spot.  As I have found 2 hummers from the Cruz.

                          From: Stringpickin <stringpickin@...>
                          To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 5:07 PM
                          Subject: RE: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"
                           
                          Not alone.. Years ago when I heard the hum it was a constant steady
                          drone.. The last 5 years I when I have heard it,, it is much more like what
                          you describe as it being morphed into.. When I begin to realize it is
                          back,, first I notice that upsetting drone come on like just out of nowhere
                          and get the sinking feeling in my gut,, then it will start doing its
                          cycling and pulsating and etc. etc. etc varying its miserable self with no
                          real pattern.. What a depressing feeling when I "hear" the hum is back.

                          But so far this year I am still completely hum free.. going on must be 8 or
                          9 months.. I only wish the rest of you could say the same..

                          All the best..

                          As a side note.. if you have not tried the 207 blocking tone/with or without
                          the white noise.. many humlings do find it can effectively block it out if
                          used properly.. they are both in the files section..

                          string

                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                          Of Jerry Cummings
                          Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:10 AM
                          To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"

                          I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know if it
                          is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have been hearing
                          for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about two weeks - it is a
                          rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual, sought a source within my home
                          with absolutely NO success. This phantom hum may be somewhere near my house
                          or could even be here "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device
                          that is changing
                          - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at seeking out
                          the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself that this
                          debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into something more
                          sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my ear drums. Am I along in
                          this "new" noise?

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                          implies. Reasoned and articulate criticism of ideas and theories is
                          welcome. Criticism of persons and personalities is unwelcome.
                          2. The following are not allowed: personal attacks, gratuitous profanity,
                          "kook" posts, and supernatural explanations.
                          3. Limit posts to those that are necessary and have substantive content.
                          In general, no more than three per person per day.
                          4. If you hear the Hum, please post your location at:
                          http://thehum.info/Yahoo! Groups Links

                        • Cottrell, Danyele Marie
                          I had to get help on this hum forum translation: http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani They are discussing the question if the muscles
                          Message 12 of 12 , Oct 18, 2013

                            I had to get help on this hum forum translation: http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani

                            They are discussing the question if the muscles "musculus stapedius" (in the leg), and musculus "tensor tympany"  (ear drum)- are effected by the hum.
                            Myoklonien (muscle jerks)- that have a ticking sound...the ear drum muscle can have either a rhythmic, or non-rhythmic ticking. The ear too reacts with rhythmic ticking to  outside sounds like opening of a faucet, start of a vacuum cleaner, cars going by and the sound of a crackling paper bag.  Theory is, that when the "tensor tympany" is irritated by impulses of infrasound it can produce a light humming in the ear drum, or affect the muscles.

                             

                             

                             

                            From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lidia1313@...
                            Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:10 PM
                            To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                            Subject: HUM_FORUM: RE: New LF &quot;noise&quot;

                             

                             

                            Hi, Danyele,

                             

                            I still haven't had the surgery on my tensor tympani, I need to wait until December to see an otoneurologist. One of the doctors I contacted said that it can be managed by medications but I am reluctant to take any medications (apart from the natural herbs and probably ayurvedic approach). The other doctor can perform the surgery but he warned me that though I will not lose my hearing, I will be hearing in a different way... I am still pondering on which option to chose, but I am 100% convinced that I suffer from middle ear myoclonus (have heard and felt it like a fluttering in my ear many nights and mornings)...  In any case, I will let you know of! the outcome!

                             

                            Danyele, there is a German researched who has done its extensive research on the Hum and the MEM and presented it in 40 pages on the German Brum (Hum) forum. I also think that he has linked this to the electricity. Here is the link for you to read:

                            http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=234287&r=search&q=tensor+tympani

                             

                            I recall that you know German and have helped Glen for the Huminfo site. I am not using German at all and I struggled to get a sensible translation through the Google translator. If you are interested and have some time, may you be able to go through this research and give us some insight of the main points? I have already asked a friend, a Hum sufferer to help me with translating this but it is a task too much time consuming for one person to do...

                             

                            There is someone of the Google Hum sufferers group, Barry Fletcher, who is about to explain of why the Hum stops and starts for some of us (is it cyclic?). He needs as many as possible Hum sufferers to lead a diary for the mont! h of October and just answer the question whether they have heard the Hum around 9 pm (no matter which geographical area), then send him back the survey. For those interested to participate, please visit the Google groups forum and fill in the logs page which is attached there. Hopefully he will throw some light on this issue very soon.

                             

                            Take care,

                            Regards,

                             

                            Lidia



                            ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <wfbarto@...> wrote:

                            I have noticed that the hum (that basically restarted around September 1st) seems to have a slightly "higher" pitch to it now.  I have also noticed that when it is the loudest that it has a significant "resonance" to it.  I believe this is what causes the pulsating effect.  As you breathe in and out, the inner ear pressure varies, and as you do this, it causes the hum to have a pulsating effect.  I think that when you do this it alternately interrupts the hum's "resonance" effect.  Try plugging your nose with your hand and then attempting to blow air out with your mouth closed..... then let go of your hand from your nose.  I think you will notice what I am talking about....

                            Strangely... the hum volume has dropped off again over th! e last 24 hours.  It did not disappear completely, but last night it was much quieter than the preceding nights.  We shall see where it goes from here!

                             



                            ---In humforum@yahoogroups.com, <humforum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                            The HUM I hear most often is the pulsating variety.  It changes in intensity, however this time (yesterday) it came with an associated  high pitched piercing noise when it was at its loudest around 3am.  I have never experienced this high pitched associated noise before.   It takes much inner strength and resolve to ignore it. 

                             

                            Sorry to hear that you too have this pulsating HUM.  I am in Auckland New Zealand and the HUM has been overly intense during late September and very loud yesterday.  It has been the most intense lately that I have experienced.

                             

                            From: Jerry Cummings <futures8@...>
                            To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:09 AM
                            Subject: HUM_FORUM: New LF "noise"

                             

                            I am hearing a change in the "hum" at different times. I do not know
                            if it is associated with the usual and constant LF hum that I have
                            been hearing for years now - this one has been plaguing me for about
                            two weeks - it is a rhythmic pulsating "hum". I have, as usual,
                            sought a source within my home with absolutely NO success. This
                            phantom hum may be somewhere near my house or could even be here
                            "somehow" and "somewhere" hidden within some device that is changing
                            - but I've added nothing new to my house. I am very good now at
                            seeking out the causes of any unfamiliar "hums" just to assure myself
                            that this debilitating, insane low frequency has not "morphed" into
                            something more sinister. This pulsating noise seems to vibrate my
                            ear drums. Am I along in this "new" noise?

                            !

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