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  • Soozie
    Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as: Meniere s
    Message 1 of 30 , May 4 9:37 PM
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      Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
      Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
      A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.

       
      Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
       
       I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
       
      For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
       
      SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
      Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
       
      From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
      http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
       
       
      Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
       
      Suzie
       
      From: "xyzxyz12311@..." <xyzxyz12311@...>
      To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
      Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
       
      Hello David

      When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
      the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
      but then he said that I would be deaf.

      I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
      that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.

      It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
      day, what is it like for you?

      ertu íslenskur?

      xyz

      --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@...> wrote:
      >
      > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
      >
      > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
      >

    • Cottrell, Danyele Marie
      Suzie - That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have
      Message 2 of 30 , May 6 8:45 AM
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        Suzie - 

        That is a really good idea !   I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.

        For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz.   If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?  

         

        Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT.  (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been.  Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated  because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).

         

         

         

        From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
        Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
        To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?

         

         

        Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:

        Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.

        A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.


         

        Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.

         

         I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.

         

        For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:

         

        SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
        Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
        http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD

         

        From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
        http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD

         

         

        Some natural therapies for tinnitus:

         

        Suzie

         

        From: "xyzxyz12311@..." <xyzxyz12311@...>
        To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
        Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?

         

        Hello David

        When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
        the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
        but then he said that I would be deaf.

        I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
        that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.

        It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
        day, what is it like for you?

        ertu íslenskur?

        xyz

        --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@...> wrote:
        >
        > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
        >
        > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
        >

      • Soozie
        Danyele,  There are many other ear and hearing problems other than tinnitus that needs to be ruled out to make sure we do not have something treatable.
        Message 3 of 30 , May 6 5:08 PM
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          Danyele,
           There are many other ear and hearing problems other than tinnitus that needs to be ruled out to make sure we do not have something treatable. Speaking as a Scottish woman, it is money well spent! (lol) We all should make absolutely certain that we have healthy "normal" ears and hearing! A thorough exam is good but maybe we even need a deeper look into our physiology to make certain we do not have retracted eardrums like Lidia has found or any other malady not easily detected. So it's really more than just a hearing test that is needed for people like us. If you have the insurance coverage you should go for as much testing as you can get to absolutely rule out any possible diagnosable condition.
           My husband does have tinnitus but does not hear the hum at all. I also feel that if you have tinnitus you should try to help yourself by any means possible. Tinnitus can, but does not always,  progress into a completely debiltating condition/state. I know of a radio personality that this happened to, he now is unable to work in radio at all.
           Just some thoughts,
          Suzie

          From: "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@...>
          To: "'humforum@yahoogroups.com'" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:45 AM
          Subject: RE: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
           
          Suzie - 
          That is a really good idea !   I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
          For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz.   If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?  
           
          Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT.  (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been.  Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated  because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
           
           
           
          From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
          Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
          To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
           
           
          Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
          Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
          A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.

           
          Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
           
           I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
           
          For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
           
          SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
          Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
          http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
           
          From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
          http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
           
           
          Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
           
          Suzie
           
          From: "xyzxyz12311@..." <xyzxyz12311@...>
          To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
          Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
           
          Hello David

          When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
          the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
          but then he said that I would be deaf.

          I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
          that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.

          It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
          day, what is it like for you?

          ertu íslenskur?

          xyz

          --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@...> wrote:
          >
          > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
          >
          > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
          >
        • caledonhum1
          Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we ll, but nobody has that I am
          Message 4 of 30 , May 7 7:31 PM
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            Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
            Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
            Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.

            Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.

            All the best to all.

            --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@...> wrote:
            >
            > Suzie -
            > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
            > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
            >
            > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
            >
            >
            >
            > From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
            > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
            > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
            >
            >
            > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
            > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
            > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
            >
            >
            > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
            >
            > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
            >
            > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
            >
            > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
            > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
            > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
            >
            > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
            > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
            >
            > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
            > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
            >
            > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
            > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
            >
            > http://www.t-gone.com/
            >
            > Suzie
            >
            > From: "xyzxyz12311@...<mailto:xyzxyz12311@...>" <xyzxyz12311@...<mailto:xyzxyz12311@...>>
            > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com<mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
            > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
            >
            > Hello David
            >
            > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
            > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
            > but then he said that I would be deaf.
            >
            > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
            > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
            >
            > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
            > day, what is it like for you?
            >
            > ertu íslenskur?
            >
            > xyz
            >
            > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
            > >
            > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
            > >
            > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
            > >
            >
          • Soozie
             Yes, I agree there is no comparable pattern to any of the proposed sources that I can see, other than the Earth or some space sound.  I do not see any
            Message 5 of 30 , May 8 5:38 AM
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               Yes, I agree there is no comparable pattern to any of the proposed sources that I can see, other than the Earth or some space sound.  I do not see any correlation to sun spots/flares at this point. I have been tracking this for a while now and there's no real match. I can only refer back to the video I posted it may be some kind of bounce back. I would have to go back to the video to get a direct quote and I just might do that. If I do I will post it here of course. To me it's mystifying! I still say learning coping methods is the best thing we can do for ourselves in the meantime. There are many natural methods to calm yourself and biofeedback is a great way to retain your reaction to the hum. I will post some biofeedback info for you in another post.
                I want to stress that there are ear conditions that may not show up on a hearing test and so we must be thoroughly examined too! Lidia's retracted eardrums are just one example.
               It occurs to me that it might help to ask some very old people if they hear it and when did it start for them. I personally do not know anyone like that so I would have to go to a retirement home to find the answer  to this question. Does anyone have any ideas on this approach?
              Suzie

              From: caledonhum1 <caledonhum1@...>
              To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:31 PM
              Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
               

              Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
              Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
              Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.

              Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.

              All the best to all.

              --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@...> wrote:
              >
              > Suzie -
              > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
              > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
              >
              > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
              >
              >
              >
              > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
              > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
              > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
              >
              >
              > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
              > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
              > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
              >
              >
              > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
              >
              > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
              >
              > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
              >
              > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
              > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
              > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
              >
              > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
              > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
              >
              > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
              > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
              >
              > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
              > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
              >
              > http://www.t-gone.com/
              >
              > Suzie
              >
              > From: "xyzxyz12311@...<mailto:xyzxyz12311@...>" <xyzxyz12311@...<mailto:xyzxyz12311@...>>
              > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
              > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
              > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
              >
              > Hello David
              >
              > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
              > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
              > but then he said that I would be deaf.
              >
              > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
              > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
              >
              > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
              > day, what is it like for you?
              >
              > ertu íslenskur?
              >
              > xyz
              >
              > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
              > >
              > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
              > >
              > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
              > >
              >

            • patty94@ymail.com
              ... Patty
              Message 6 of 30 , May 11 8:21 PM
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                --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@...> wrote:
                >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers.
                Patty
                >
                > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
                > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
                > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                >
                > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.
                >
                > All the best to all.
                >
                > --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote:
                > >
                > > Suzie -
                > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
                > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
                > >
                > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > From: humforum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
                > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
                > > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                > >
                > >
                > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
                > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
                > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
                > >
                > >
                > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
                > >
                > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
                > >
                > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
                > >
                > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
                > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
                > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
                > >
                > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
                > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
                > >
                > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
                > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
                > >
                > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
                > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
                > >
                > > http://www.t-gone.com/
                > >
                > > Suzie
                > >
                > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>>
                > > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com<mailto:humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
                > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                > >
                > > Hello David
                > >
                > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
                > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
                > > but then he said that I would be deaf.
                > >
                > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
                > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
                > >
                > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
                > > day, what is it like for you?
                > >
                > > ertu íslenskur?
                > >
                > > xyz
                > >
                > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
                > > >
                > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
                > > >
                > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
                > > >
                > >
                >
              • Soozie
                For whatever it s worth, I live in a small suburban town and there are no tall buildings, nothing over 3 floors, for miles. The land is flat, no hills for
                Message 7 of 30 , May 11 9:46 PM
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                  For whatever it's worth, I live in a small suburban town and there are no tall buildings, nothing over 3 floors, for miles. The land is flat, no hills for many miles too. No bodies of water nor rivers immediately near me. These factors have not impacted my hum here at all.
                  Suzie

                  From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                  To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM
                  Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                   


                  --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@...> wrote:
                  >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers.
                  Patty
                  >
                  > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
                  > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
                  > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                  >
                  > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.
                  >
                  > All the best to all.
                  >
                  > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Suzie -
                  > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
                  > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
                  > >
                  > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
                  > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
                  > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
                  > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
                  > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
                  > >
                  > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
                  > >
                  > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
                  > >
                  > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
                  > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
                  > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
                  > >
                  > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
                  > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
                  > >
                  > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
                  > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
                  > >
                  > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
                  > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
                  > >
                  > > http://www.t-gone.com/
                  > >
                  > > Suzie
                  > >
                  > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>>
                  > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                  > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
                  > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                  > >
                  > > Hello David
                  > >
                  > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
                  > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
                  > > but then he said that I would be deaf.
                  > >
                  > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
                  > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
                  > >
                  > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
                  > > day, what is it like for you?
                  > >
                  > > ertu íslenskur?
                  > >
                  > > xyz
                  > >
                  > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
                  > > >
                  > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >

                • Soozie
                  For whatever it s worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it s flat as a
                  Message 8 of 30 , May 11 10:08 PM
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                    For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here.
                    Suzie

                    From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                    To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM
                    Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                     


                    --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@...> wrote:
                    >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers.
                    Patty
                    >
                    > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
                    > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
                    > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                    >
                    > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.
                    >
                    > All the best to all.
                    >
                    > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Suzie -
                    > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
                    > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
                    > >
                    > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
                    > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
                    > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                    > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
                    > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
                    > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
                    > >
                    > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
                    > >
                    > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
                    > >
                    > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
                    > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
                    > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
                    > >
                    > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
                    > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
                    > >
                    > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
                    > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
                    > >
                    > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
                    > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
                    > >
                    > > http://www.t-gone.com/
                    > >
                    > > Suzie
                    > >
                    > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>>
                    > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                    > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
                    > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                    > >
                    > > Hello David
                    > >
                    > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
                    > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
                    > > but then he said that I would be deaf.
                    > >
                    > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
                    > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
                    > >
                    > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
                    > > day, what is it like for you?
                    > >
                    > > ertu íslenskur?
                    > >
                    > > xyz
                    > >
                    > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
                    > > >
                    > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >

                  • patty94@ymail.com
                    ... Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca
                    Message 9 of 30 , May 14 1:15 PM
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                      --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here.
                      > Suzie
                      >Hi Suzie; All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM. In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line. If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line.
                      Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca
                      > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                      > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM
                      > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                      >
                      >  
                      >
                      >
                      > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote:
                      > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers.
                      > Patty
                      > >
                      > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
                      > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
                      > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                      > >
                      > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.
                      > >
                      > > All the best to all.
                      > >
                      > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > Suzie -
                      > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
                      > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
                      > > >
                      > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
                      > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
                      > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                      > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
                      > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
                      > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
                      > > >
                      > > >
                      > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
                      > > >
                      > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
                      > > >
                      > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
                      > > >
                      > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
                      > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
                      > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
                      > > >
                      > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
                      > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
                      > > >
                      > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
                      > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
                      > > >
                      > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
                      > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
                      > > >
                      > > > http://www.t-gone.com/
                      > > >
                      > > > Suzie
                      > > >
                      > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>>
                      > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                      > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
                      > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                      > > >
                      > > > Hello David
                      > > >
                      > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
                      > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
                      > > > but then he said that I would be deaf.
                      > > >
                      > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
                      > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
                      > > >
                      > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
                      > > > day, what is it like for you?
                      > > >
                      > > > ertu íslenskur?
                      > > >
                      > > > xyz
                      > > >
                      > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
                      > > > >
                      > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
                    • Steve Kohlhase
                      http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/canada_pipelines.html Patty, you might want to check where you are on this map.  Yes the high tension lines (seen on google
                      Message 10 of 30 , May 14 5:38 PM
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                        Patty, you might want to check where you are on this map.  Yes the high tension lines (seen on google maps) from up north starting at the hydro facilities are near by, but they're not the problem of your LF hum at the Lake
                        From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                        To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                        Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15 PM
                        Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                         


                        --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote:
                        >
                        > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here.
                        > Suzie
                        >Hi Suzie; All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM. In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line. If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line.
                        Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca
                        > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                        > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                        > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM
                        > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                        >
                        >  
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote:
                        > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers.
                        > Patty
                        > >
                        > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
                        > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
                        > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                        > >
                        > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.
                        > >
                        > > All the best to all.
                        > >
                        > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote:
                        > > >
                        > > > Suzie -
                        > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
                        > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
                        > > >
                        > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
                        > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
                        > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                        > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
                        > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
                        > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
                        > > >
                        > > >
                        > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
                        > > >
                        > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
                        > > >
                        > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
                        > > >
                        > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
                        > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
                        > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
                        > > >
                        > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
                        > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
                        > > >
                        > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
                        > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
                        > > >
                        > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
                        > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
                        > > >
                        > > > http://www.t-gone.com/
                        > > >
                        > > > Suzie
                        > > >
                        > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>>
                        > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
                        > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                        > > >
                        > > > Hello David
                        > > >
                        > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
                        > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
                        > > > but then he said that I would be deaf.
                        > > >
                        > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
                        > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
                        > > >
                        > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
                        > > > day, what is it like for you?
                        > > >
                        > > > ertu íslenskur?
                        > > >
                        > > > xyz
                        > > >
                        > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
                        > > > >
                        > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
                        > > > >
                        > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
                        > > > >
                        > > >
                        > >
                        >

                      • Renee Gibson
                        Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena. My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably
                        Message 11 of 30 , May 15 3:17 AM
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                          Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                          My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                          He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                          He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                          He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                          Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                          Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                          Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell

                          From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                          To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                          Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                          Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?



                          --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here.
                          > Suzie
                          >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line.
                          Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca
                          > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                          > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                          > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM
                          > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                          >
                          >  
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote:
                          > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers.
                          > Patty
                          > >
                          > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements.
                          > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum.
                          > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                          > >
                          > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section.
                          > >
                          > > All the best to all.
                          > >
                          > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Suzie -
                          > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum.
                          > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause?
                          > > >
                          > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10).
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie
                          > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM
                          > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                          > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as:
                          > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted.
                          > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack.
                          > > >
                          > > >
                          > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away.
                          > > >
                          > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus.
                          > > >
                          > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus:
                          > > >
                          > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK
                          > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds
                          > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD
                          > > >
                          > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus
                          > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD
                          > > >
                          > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus
                          > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD
                          > > >
                          > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus:
                          > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage
                          > > >
                          > > > http://www.t-gone.com/
                          > > >
                          > > > Suzie
                          > > >
                          > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>>
                          > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM
                          > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                          > > >
                          > > > Hello David
                          > > >
                          > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that
                          > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve
                          > > > but then he said that I would be deaf.
                          > > >
                          > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise
                          > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum.
                          > > >
                          > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all
                          > > > day, what is it like for you?
                          > > >
                          > > > ertu íslenskur?
                          > > >
                          > > > xyz
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          >




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                        • Soozie
                          Renee,  You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief. Suzie From: Renee Gibson
                          Message 12 of 30 , May 15 3:08 PM
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                            Renee,
                             You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                            Suzie
                            From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                            To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                            Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                             
                            Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                            My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                            He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                            He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                            He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                            Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                            Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                            Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell

                            From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                            To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                            Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                            Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                            --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > > > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu íslenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Posting Guidelines: 1.  The orientation of this forum is scientific, with everything that implies.  Reasoned and articulate criticism of ideas and theories is welcome.  Criticism of persons and personalities is unwelcome. 2.  The following are not allowed:  personal attacks, gratuitous profanity, "kook" posts, and supernatural explanations. 3.  Limit posts to those that are necessary and have substantive content.  In general, no more than three per person per day. 4.  If you hear the Hum, please post your location at: http://thehum.info/Yahoo!Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humforum/ <*> Your email settings:     Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humforum/join     (Yahoo! 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                          • Renee Gibson
                            Suzie, I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here. We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still
                            Message 13 of 30 , May 16 3:30 AM
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                              Suzie,
                              I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                              We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                              An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                              I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                              Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                              Renee

                              From: Soozie <soozieqty1@...>
                              To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                              Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                              Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?



                              Renee,
                               You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                              Suzie
                              From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                              To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                              Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                              Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                               
                              Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                              My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                              He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                              He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                              He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                              Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                              Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                              Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell

                              From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                              To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                              Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                              --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                              > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a
                              2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > >
                              > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu íslenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > >
                              http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/ > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Posting Guidelines: 1.  The orientation of this forum is scientific, with everything that implies.  Reasoned and articulate criticism of ideas and theories is welcome.  Criticism of persons and personalities is unwelcome. 2.  The following are not allowed:  personal attacks, gratuitous profanity, "kook" posts, and supernatural explanations. 3.  Limit posts to those that are necessary and have substantive content.  In general, no more than three per person per day. 4.  If you hear the Hum, please post your location at: http://thehum.info/Yahoo!Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humforum/ <*> Your email settings:     Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/humforum/join     (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email:     humforum-digest@yahoogroups.com     humforum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     humforum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




                            • Copsne
                              Renee if you havent already goggle The New Haven Register. Start search on Sundays article connecticut natural gas push.... Comment on it about Darrels
                              Message 14 of 30 , May 16 3:29 PM
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                                Renee if you havent already goggle The New Haven Register. Start search on Sundays article "connecticut natural gas push...."  Comment on it about Darrels siruation from it. I dont care what your rational of source is, comment on the hum. 

                                Go to Saratoga Springs. It was no hum last summer late August

                                Sent from Steve's iPhone and I appologize for typo's

                                On May 16, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...> wrote:

                                 

                                Suzie,
                                I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                Renee

                                From: Soozie <soozieqty1@...>
                                To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?



                                Renee,
                                 You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                Suzie
                                From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                                To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                 
                                Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell

                                From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=
                              • Soozie
                                Renee,  My main reason for suggesting that you try to travel away from the hum is because you had said you believed that your husbands hum was from the huge
                                Message 15 of 30 , May 16 4:02 PM
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                                  Renee,
                                   My main reason for suggesting that you try to travel away from the hum is because you had said you believed that your husbands hum was from the huge plant near your home. It would seem that since you have traveled away and it has not helped dissipate the hum for your mate then it must not be caused by the big plant there. Yes infra sound travels, but we can't all be hearing the one plant. So the true source must be something else. I realize this is frustrating to the sufferers as well as those who love them. We all want something that we can focus our anger and our frustration on. We want an answer, a cause, a solution, but it doesn't appear that easy at this time for any of us that hear it. This is why I have stressed the need to practice good coping methods:
                                  Expressing emotions and thoughts with a group like this one (hum hearers personal suppport) Getting counseling for our frustrations, anxiety, and anger issues.
                                  Treating our emotional issues, when necessary, with herbal, nutritional support, as well as meds if need be. 
                                  Practicing good sleep hygiene.
                                  Utilizing the tone generators, that have been discussed here, fans, white sound machines, or HEPA air cleaners to facilitate better sleep.
                                  Using good stress relieving techniques, ie; regular exercise (even walking or swimming), meditation, biofeedback etc. Even using humor to lighten our moods may be of help (comedy movies, shows, the comedy chanel) FYI, there are many herbs and vitamin/minerals that help the body and mind with stress and emotional balance.
                                   
                                  For now, this is all we have in terms of real help until a true source is found, and really even after a source is found. It is necessary that we do all we can to help ourselves achieve the best we can be while this thing plays itself out.
                                   
                                   I wish you and your mate the best and I am happy to expand on any of these subjects if you need me to, just ask.
                                   
                                  Suzie
                                   
                                   

                                  From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                                  To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                  Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:30 AM
                                  Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                   
                                  Suzie,
                                  I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                  We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                  An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                  I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                  Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                  Renee

                                  From: Soozie <soozieqty1@...>
                                  To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                  Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                  Renee,
                                   You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                  Suzie
                                  From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                                  To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                  Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                   
                                  Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                  My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                  He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                  He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                  He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                  Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                  Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                  Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell

                                  From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                  To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                  Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                  --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions.
                                  > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a
                                  2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > >
                                  > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu íslenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > >
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                                • patty94@ymail.com
                                  ... So far as a standstill that is just how it is. I m happy if I get my housework done and move on to get yard work done. I feel blessed that I already had
                                  Message 16 of 30 , May 16 10:17 PM
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                                    --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...> wrote:
                                    >Renee & Darrell Hi it's Patty, The Doctor is right that you should consider moving away from the Aluminum Smelter. Considering this HUM effect, from what I have read of the Microwave Auditory Effect, the Electromagnetics can possibly have an effect on the Blood Brain Barrier. It is just one of the effects that they have researched. The barrier may be comprimised to allow metals and other toxins thru to the brain. I am not a doctor or scientist just a sufferer that has researched and collected the papers. I had a very difficult time in the beginning. My husband couldn't understand why I was having difficulty, it was very hard. I resisted taking prescription drugs but eventually I had to start taking Cmybalta. I was just in too much pain after they installed the smart meters. Now again it has changed and got worst with 4G. Cymbalta helps with attitude and has helped me to evaluate before I react to a situation or comment. The Cymbalta helps with the pain but does not stop the hum or help with sleep. Eventually I was so sleep deprived that I had to ask for a sleep aid, my doctor at the time prescripted Zopiclone 5mg. It does help. I'm angry as hell that I have been forced to take medication, but for now that's what I have to do.
                                    So far as a standstill that is just how it is. I'm happy if I get my housework done and move on to get yard work done. I feel blessed that I already had a strong faith, that is what has kept me going, with out it I don't think I would still be alive. I would be willing to meet with you both, I don't have my American passport and I'm not a Canadian Citizen so I only cross over in emergency cases with my family. Do you have the papers to come to the Canadian side?
                                    Patty

                                    > Suzie,
                                    > I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                    > We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                    > An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                    > I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                    > Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                    > Renee
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ________________________________
                                    > From: Soozie <soozieqty1@...>
                                    > To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                    > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Renee,
                                    >
                                    >  You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                    > Suzie
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ________________________________
                                    > From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                                    > To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                    > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                    >
                                    >  
                                    > Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                    > My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                    > He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                    > He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                    > He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                    > Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                    > Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                    > Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > ________________________________
                                    > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                    > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                    > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                    > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                    >
                                    > --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@" <patty94@> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In
                                    > mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I
                                    > posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious
                                    > pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests
                                    > complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule
                                    > out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > >
                                    > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013
                                    > 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > > > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu ÃÆ'­slenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/ > > > > > > > > > >
                                    >
                                  • Soozie
                                    Patty,  In reading about the Microwave Auditory Effect,  it says that pulsed microwave radiation can be heard by some workers; the irradiated personnel
                                    Message 17 of 30 , May 16 11:22 PM
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                                      Patty,
                                       In reading about the Microwave Auditory Effect,  it says that "pulsed microwave radiation can be heard by some workers; the irradiated personnel perceive auditory sensations of clicking or buzzing. "  Mine is a hum for sure and not a click or a buzz. In your reading was there anything that refered to a hum as the sound that is caused by the Microwave Auditory Effect? Is this talking about the same thing that we are suffering from? Would this mean that this Microwave Auditory Effect is being blasted everywhere around the world at once?
                                      Suzie

                                      From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                      To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:17 AM
                                      Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                       


                                      --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...> wrote:
                                      >Renee & Darrell Hi it's Patty, The Doctor is right that you should consider moving away from the Aluminum Smelter. Considering this HUM effect, from what I have read of the Microwave Auditory Effect, the Electromagnetics can possibly have an effect on the Blood Brain Barrier. It is just one of the effects that they have researched. The barrier may be comprimised to allow metals and other toxins thru to the brain. I am not a doctor or scientist just a sufferer that has researched and collected the papers. I had a very difficult time in the beginning. My husband couldn't understand why I was having difficulty, it was very hard. I resisted taking prescription drugs but eventually I had to start taking Cmybalta. I was just in too much pain after they installed the smart meters. Now again it has changed and got worst with 4G. Cymbalta helps with attitude and has helped me to evaluate before I react to a situation or comment. The Cymbalta helps with the pain but does not stop the hum or help with sleep. Eventually I was so sleep deprived that I had to ask for a sleep aid, my doctor at the time prescripted Zopiclone 5mg. It does help. I'm angry as hell that I have been forced to take medication, but for now that's what I have to do.
                                      So far as a standstill that is just how it is. I'm happy if I get my housework done and move on to get yard work done. I feel blessed that I already had a strong faith, that is what has kept me going, with out it I don't think I would still be alive. I would be willing to meet with you both, I don't have my American passport and I'm not a Canadian Citizen so I only cross over in emergency cases with my family. Do you have the papers to come to the Canadian side?
                                      Patty

                                      > Suzie,
                                      > I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                      > We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                      > An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                      > I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                      > Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                      > Renee
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > ________________________________
                                      > From: Soozie <soozieqty1@...>
                                      > To: "mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                      > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > Renee,
                                      >
                                      >  You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                      > Suzie
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > ________________________________
                                      > From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                                      > To: "mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                                      > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                      > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                      >
                                      >  
                                      > Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                      > My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                      > He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                      > He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                      > He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                      > Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                      > Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                      > Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell
                                      >
                                      >
                                      > ________________________________
                                      > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                      > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                                      > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                      > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                      >
                                      > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@" <patty94@> > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In
                                      > mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I
                                      > posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious
                                      > pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests
                                      > complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule
                                      > out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > >
                                      > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013
                                      > 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > > > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu ÃÆ'­slenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/ > > > > > > > > > >
                                      >

                                    • Renee Gibson
                                      Hi Patty, We ve traveled so far in all directions and like I said, there are basically sufferers all over the world. Why whatever it is only affects some and
                                      Message 18 of 30 , May 17 4:26 AM
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                                        Hi Patty,
                                        We've traveled so far in all directions and like I said, there are basically sufferers all over the world.
                                        Why whatever it is only affects some and not others is a mystery to me. Iv'e tried and tried to "hear", "feel" it and just can't.
                                        But, Iv'e done a ton of research - and have come across an enviromental placement of law referred to as Regulation 17. This law dictates the emissions of noise allowed on industrial sites - such as the smelting plant. Further research states that many industries are allowed a variance to exceed the guidelines of Regulation 17 in order to keep operational.
                                        I will research the Microwave Auditory Effect immediately.
                                        Unfortunately, it has become too much of a hassle to enter Canada so we haven't the credentials to accomodate a meeting.
                                        Darrell is gradually weaning himself from Gabapentin - supposedly prescribed for pain ( but doesn't help) No other medication has had any effect. I will look up Zoplicone too.
                                        I think a lawyer would be interested in Regulation 17.
                                        Keep in touch - so nice talking with you.   Renee& Darrell
                                        From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                        To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                        Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:17:58 AM
                                        Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?



                                        --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...> wrote:
                                        >Renee & Darrell  Hi it's Patty,  The Doctor is right that you should consider moving away from the Aluminum Smelter.  Considering this HUM effect, from what I have read of the Microwave Auditory Effect, the Electromagnetics can possibly have an effect on the Blood Brain Barrier.  It is just one of the effects that they have researched.  The barrier may be comprimised to allow metals and other toxins thru to the brain.  I am not a doctor or scientist just a sufferer that has researched and collected the papers.  I had a very difficult time in the beginning.  My husband couldn't understand why I was having difficulty, it was very hard.  I resisted taking prescription drugs but eventually I had to start taking Cmybalta.  I was just in too much pain after they installed the smart meters.  Now again it has changed and got worst with 4G.  Cymbalta helps with attitude and has helped me to evaluate before I react to a situation or comment.  The Cymbalta helps with the pain but does not stop the hum or help with sleep.  Eventually I was so sleep deprived that I had to ask for a sleep aid, my doctor at the time prescripted Zopiclone 5mg.  It does help.  I'm angry as hell that I have been forced to take medication, but for now that's what I have to do.
                                        So far as a standstill that is just how it is.  I'm happy if I get my housework done and move on to get yard work done.  I feel blessed that I already had a strong faith, that is what has kept me going, with out it I don't think I would still be alive. I would be willing to meet with you both, I don't have my American passport and I'm not a Canadian Citizen so I only cross over in emergency cases with my family.  Do you have the papers to come to the Canadian side?
                                        Patty

                                        > Suzie,
                                        > I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                        > We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                        > An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                        > I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                        > Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                        > Renee
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > ________________________________
                                        > From: Soozie <soozieqty1@...>
                                        > To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                        > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                        > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Renee,
                                        >
                                        >  You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                        > Suzie
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > ________________________________
                                        > From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@...>
                                        > To: "humforum@yahoogroups.com" <humforum@yahoogroups.com>
                                        > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                        > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                        >
                                        >  
                                        > Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                        > My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                        > He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                        > He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                        > He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                        > Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                        > Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                        > Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > ________________________________
                                        > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                        > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                        > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                        > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                        >
                                        > --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@" <patty94@> > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > > --- In
                                        >  mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I
                                        >  posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious
                                        >  pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests
                                        >  complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesn’t have to be recalibrated because I’m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose, and Throat doctor check our ears to rule
                                        >  out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > >
                                        http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD> > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. It’s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD> > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD> > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage> > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/> > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013
                                        >  10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > > > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu ÃÆ'­slenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/> > > > > > > > > >
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                                      • iprefertruth
                                        In a message dated 17/05/2013 00:04:41 GMT Daylight Time, soozieqty1@yahoo.com writes: Yes infra sound travels, but we can t all be hearing the one plant.So
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                                          In a message dated 17/05/2013 00:04:41 GMT Daylight Time, soozieqty1@... writes:
                                          Yes infra sound travels, but we can't all be hearing the one plant.So the true source must be something else.
                                          I really do think that there must be many sources, not just one.
                                          Many industrial installations emit hums.
                                          Heavy trains are trundling around all the time, and maybe their hums overlap?
                                          Large intercontinental planes have deep note frequencies in their roaring engines...maybe they overlap
                                          and mix with ground level hums?
                                          Their sound seems to disappear as they go over, but could a sort of 'residue' carry further?
                                          That might explain why sometimes volumes (loudness) go up and down.
                                          I wouldn't be surprised to find out that industrial plants get away with exceeding legal levels...
                                          jobs are involved, you see, and big business tends to succeed despite discomforts inflicted on ordinary people....
                                           
                                          I read several years ago that the Australians were trying to develop
                                          a pill to reduce hearing...does anyone have any knowledge of any progress on this yet?
                                           
                                          I had 7 years of 'hell', hearing The Hum, but I am convinced it
                                          was benzo-diazepines  that made my hearing super-sensitive....
                                          Can you imagine the dreadful vicious circle : hear the Hum,
                                          get stressed, can't sleep, take b-d's, (diazepam, lorazepam, temazepam, etc.),
                                          hearing becomes more sensitive, hear the Hum More, take more b-d's,
                                          hearing becomes more acute, take more b-d's......and so on.
                                          They took weeks to work out of the system, and I always try to
                                           warn everyone to be very aware of that possibility,
                                          i.e., could make the Hum seem louder.
                                           
                                          Maybe there are other 'med's' , and / or chemicals in our environment
                                          that could make the same effect?
                                           
                                          You know if you have a hangover, every sound seems too loud?
                                          That is because something happened ,
                                           from the alcohol, that made the hearing too sensitive.
                                           
                                          By the way, what is this "Cochlear Implant Conspiracy" ?
                                          Let's not get paranoid !
                                          Best Wishes,
                                          R.M.,
                                          LFNSH., England.
                                        • iprefertruth
                                          In a message dated 16/05/2013 01:39:07 GMT Daylight Time, soozieqty1@yahoo.com writes: Audiologist s graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot
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                                            In a message dated 16/05/2013 01:39:07 GMT Daylight Time, soozieqty1@... writes:
                                            Audiologist's graph I posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing.
                                            Hi,
                                            I thought 'normal' human hearing , lower limit, was set at 20 Hz., which is much lower than 125Hz...
                                            Even below 20Hz, that can be heard, if it is loud enough.
                                            One small point,
                                            when we age, we often lose some higher frequencies, such as bird song, rustling leaves,
                                            the 's'  soud in speech, etc.
                                            Then the brain notices lower frequencies more.
                                            That might be why there seem to be more Hum hearers of the older age groups who
                                            complain about the Hum.
                                            Not saying that is the only reason, as there is far too much noise being made all over the place.
                                            Far too many people on the planet, plus they are often in overcrowded places,
                                            making their general noises such as washing machines, tumble driers, hoovers,
                                            air conditioners,fridges, freezers, computers,  etc., etc., become nuisances.
                                            That would cause local LFN, sometimes easier to pinpoint.
                                            But on top of that, you can get the more distant Hum, from further away.
                                            You often hear people refer to the 'hum of the city' : especially from a little way out :
                                            higher frequencies drop off,(because they can't travel as far) ,  and lower ones carry on travelling out....
                                            You'd probably find that at a distance, a city would make a predominently lower sound....
                                            ours here at Southampton,England,  I can hear it when the wind comes from there...
                                            a mixture of all the activity going on,around the clock.
                                             Motorways with huge, trundling  lorries,(travelling overnight to avoid the day traffic),
                                             ships that keep their engines running apparently in port to power their electrics , etc.;
                                             trains trundling around with huge tonnages of freight,
                                            lots of lower frequencies being produced at night.
                                            The predominating frequency of motorways is apparently around 66Hz :
                                            tyre and engine noise.
                                            People say how difficult it is to trace "the source",
                                            that's probably because many sourceS are overlapping, thus making a sort of
                                            ' fog ' of sound.....Mr Hylton Dawson found  lots of hums around  Bristol, England,
                                             so that the term "The Bristol Hum "may not be quite accurate,
                                            and gives an impression of ONE source : Mr. Dawson found several (acoustic) sources,
                                            and I can imagine that they could act together to make the impression of one source,
                                            because they are mixing their similar frequencies in the air.
                                            Some people say they hear a 'beat', and if that is not their pulse altering their perception of the incoming sound/s, then that could suggest more than one source.
                                            The places that have become famous (Bristol, Kokomo, Taos, Auckland, etc), are, may I suggest, only seeming like hotspots  because they have received special coverage by the press / media.
                                            Dr. Tom Moir's Auckland Hum  recordings sound very similar to many other recordings, including my own.
                                                    If there  is a predominating, detectable frequency,
                                                       it would be useful to make readings at different distances,
                                                         downwind, and see how far the sound could travel.
                                            Maybe if there were a busy city bordering a quieter, (i.e., thinly populated for miles)
                                              area such as a desert,
                                            then maybe an experiment could be done when there is
                                             less general activity such as road traffic, and measurements could be taken ?
                                            Wind direction I would want to check, to make sure the wind was carrying sounds from the city...
                                            apparently wind can blow sounds away, as shown here near Southampton :
                                             when the wind changes to Westerly, then it's nice and quiet,because to the west of Southampton are quite a few miles of countryside,  but when the wind is FROM the city, then :
                                             low frequency sounds come over. And then the effects start....tension, from the worry of how long it will last.
                                            ( Not too bad though, so far, since our prevailing wind direction is westerly).
                                             It's so obvious, and since Southampton is a noisy old industrial port , with container storage and moving containers in and out from the vast 'parking' area going on 24/7, that leads me to wonder whether
                                            many other cities will be producing general background low frequency noises, that will be confusing and difficult to pin down.....because they are a 'mish-mash'.....
                                            Continued sympathy to all sufferers : I know what it's like, that's why I continue interest, and try to figure it out....low frequency must have been for millions of years, associated with danger (earthquakes, thunder, roaring rivers, rock falls, heavy beasts, etc.), so it's  not unnatural for people to have a bad reaction when they get relentless  LFN  disturbing their lives.
                                            R.M.,
                                            LFNSH,
                                            England.
                                          • patty94@ymail.com
                                            ... Patty
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                                              --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote:
                                              >Suzie; Hi, I was at a TeleSat base station and what I heard was not a click or buzz but more of a old fashion train whistle in the distance. The head guy came over to ask if I had heard it. For years I would hear the train whistle but no trains even close enough to be heard. Then in 2004 the train whistle was replaced by the sound of a deisel idling in the distance. It could also be heard inside the house. Since then it has changed its sound and repeation rate. As it got stronger (more complex) it also started to effect me physically. But back to the sound around the world. I do not think it is the same pulse rate or strenght around the world. I think it has more to do with the amount of data being transferred in any particular area. I think mine is strong because of our powerlines being used for Broadband over the powerline (BPL). I think the original train noise was from the Microwave repeaters (the tall towers), they changed the towers location and height when this aggravating hum started in my house.
                                              Patty
                                              > Patty,
                                              >  In reading about the Microwave Auditory Effect,  it says that "pulsed microwave radiation can be heard by some workers; the irradiated personnel perceive auditory sensations of clicking or buzzing. "  Mine is a hum for sure and not a click or a buzz. In your reading was there anything that refered to a hum as the sound that is caused by the Microwave Auditory Effect? Is this talking about the same thing that we are suffering from? Would this mean that this Microwave Auditory Effect is being blasted everywhere around the world at once?
                                              > Suzie
                                              >
                                              > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                              > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                              > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:17 AM
                                              > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                              >
                                              >  
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@> wrote:
                                              > >Renee & Darrell Hi it's Patty, The Doctor is right that you should consider moving away from the Aluminum Smelter. Considering this HUM effect, from what I have read of the Microwave Auditory Effect, the Electromagnetics can possibly have an effect on the Blood Brain Barrier. It is just one of the effects that they have researched. The barrier may be comprimised to allow metals and other toxins thru to the brain. I am not a doctor or scientist just a sufferer that has researched and collected the papers. I had a very difficult time in the beginning. My husband couldn't understand why I was having difficulty, it was very hard. I resisted taking prescription drugs but eventually I had to start taking Cmybalta. I was just in too much pain after they installed the smart meters. Now again it has changed and got worst with 4G. Cymbalta helps with attitude and has helped me to evaluate before I react to a situation or comment. The Cymbalta helps with the pain
                                              > but does not stop the hum or help with sleep. Eventually I was so sleep deprived that I had to ask for a sleep aid, my doctor at the time prescripted Zopiclone 5mg. It does help. I'm angry as hell that I have been forced to take medication, but for now that's what I have to do.
                                              > So far as a standstill that is just how it is. I'm happy if I get my housework done and move on to get yard work done. I feel blessed that I already had a strong faith, that is what has kept me going, with out it I don't think I would still be alive. I would be willing to meet with you both, I don't have my American passport and I'm not a Canadian Citizen so I only cross over in emergency cases with my family. Do you have the papers to come to the Canadian side?
                                              > Patty
                                              >
                                              > > Suzie,
                                              > > I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                              > > We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                              > > An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                              > > I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                              > > Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                              > > Renee
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > ________________________________
                                              > > From: Soozie <soozieqty1@>
                                              > > To: "mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                              > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Renee,
                                              > >
                                              > >  You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                              > > Suzie
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > ________________________________
                                              > > From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@>
                                              > > To: "mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                              > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                              > >
                                              > >  
                                              > > Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                              > > My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                              > > He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                              > > He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                              > > He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                              > > Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                              > > Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                              > > Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > ________________________________
                                              > > From: "patty94@" <patty94@>
                                              > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                                              > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                              > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@" <patty94@> > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > >
                                              > --- In
                                              > > mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I
                                              > > posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious
                                              > > pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests
                                              > > complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesnÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢t have to be recalibrated because IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose,
                                              > and Throat doctor check our ears to rule
                                              > > out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > >
                                              > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. ItÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent:
                                              > Saturday, May 4, 2013
                                              > > 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > > > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu ÃÆ'Æ'­slenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/ > > > > > > > >
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                                                --- In humforum@yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@...> wrote:
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                                                > Patty,
                                                >  In reading about the Microwave Auditory Effect,  it says that "pulsed microwave radiation can be heard by some workers; the irradiated personnel perceive auditory sensations of clicking or buzzing. "  Mine is a hum for sure and not a click or a buzz. In your reading was there anything that refered to a hum as the sound that is caused by the Microwave Auditory Effect? Is this talking about the same thing that we are suffering from? Would this mean that this Microwave Auditory Effect is being blasted everywhere around the world at once?
                                                > Suzie
                                                >Different frequencys, different parts of the microwave spectrum different sounds. Just like different waves have different forms on the spectrograph ( I think thats what the thing is called).
                                                > From: "patty94@..." <patty94@...>
                                                > To: humforum@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:17 AM
                                                > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
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                                                > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@> wrote:
                                                > >Renee & Darrell Hi it's Patty, The Doctor is right that you should consider moving away from the Aluminum Smelter. Considering this HUM effect, from what I have read of the Microwave Auditory Effect, the Electromagnetics can possibly have an effect on the Blood Brain Barrier. It is just one of the effects that they have researched. The barrier may be comprimised to allow metals and other toxins thru to the brain. I am not a doctor or scientist just a sufferer that has researched and collected the papers. I had a very difficult time in the beginning. My husband couldn't understand why I was having difficulty, it was very hard. I resisted taking prescription drugs but eventually I had to start taking Cmybalta. I was just in too much pain after they installed the smart meters. Now again it has changed and got worst with 4G. Cymbalta helps with attitude and has helped me to evaluate before I react to a situation or comment. The Cymbalta helps with the pain
                                                > but does not stop the hum or help with sleep. Eventually I was so sleep deprived that I had to ask for a sleep aid, my doctor at the time prescripted Zopiclone 5mg. It does help. I'm angry as hell that I have been forced to take medication, but for now that's what I have to do.
                                                > So far as a standstill that is just how it is. I'm happy if I get my housework done and move on to get yard work done. I feel blessed that I already had a strong faith, that is what has kept me going, with out it I don't think I would still be alive. I would be willing to meet with you both, I don't have my American passport and I'm not a Canadian Citizen so I only cross over in emergency cases with my family. Do you have the papers to come to the Canadian side?
                                                > Patty
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                                                > > Suzie,
                                                > > I am on the boarder of Canada - in Upstate NY. Patti, from Ontario is only about 60 miles from here.
                                                > > We have traveled 200 miles South and he is still affected - and have seen a doctor in Vermont which is North about 180 miles. West as far as a place called Tupper Lake and he is still affected.
                                                > > An ear, nose and throat doctor actually suggested we move. But really...there are so many sufferers in so many corners of the world, where would that place be??
                                                > > I'd like to know of anyones personal experiences with doctors that they have mentioned this too.
                                                > > Without a solid diagnosis of enviromental pollution disease or something of the sort - we will remain at a standstill - and continue to suffer.
                                                > > Renee
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                                                > > ________________________________
                                                > > From: Soozie <soozieqty1@>
                                                > > To: "mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:08:08 PM
                                                > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
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                                                > > Renee,
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                                                > >  You are in Canada, correct? Perhaps you can take a trip to another area to see if he can find some relief.
                                                > > Suzie
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                                                > > ________________________________
                                                > > From: Renee Gibson <reneeg8966@>
                                                > > To: "mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 5:17 AM
                                                > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
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                                                > >  
                                                > > Specifically to Patti in Ontario, who is familiar with the co generation plant in Massena.
                                                > > My husaband has suffered with the hum since 2010. He probably suffered prior - but didn't recognize how dehibilitating it was until 2010. He is determined that this plant is the source as it refines and smelts aluminum.
                                                > > He contacted everyone possible. Doctors , legislators and other officials. He was met with other "possible reasons" and finally comitted to a mental unit for 14 days (devastating for both of us).
                                                > > He is positive his affliction is caused by this plant and from my research on infrasound this may very well be so. Iv'e learned these LF microwaves can travel great distances - however this plant is HUGE and of course not to be messed with, resulting in his institution stay.
                                                > > He is as normal as you and I. Unfortunately, under the cicumstances he would not see a Dr. today if he were dying - due to the fact his med records indicate he has mental instability...just because they refuse to take a moment to read and understand what they're reading. Of course they would immediately reinstate mental services. (very scary)
                                                > > Due to this, he can't really say anything. If the circumstances were diffrent we'd shout it from the rooftops.
                                                > > Please consider this plant to be the source. It is very possible.
                                                > > Well Wishes , Renee & Darrell
                                                > >
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                                                > > ________________________________
                                                > > From: "patty94@" <patty94@>
                                                > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com
                                                > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 4:15:44 PM
                                                > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy?
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                                                > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Soozie <soozieqty1@> wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, there are no tall buildings, over three stories, near me. There are no rivers or bodies of water near me, and no hills, it's flat as a pancake! None of these have anything to do with me hearing the hum here. > Suzie >Hi Suzie;  All I am saying is that I have no reason to head off to Stanhope Airport or Haliburton to get away from the HUM.  In fact I know that North of that area their is no gas pipes but their is a large electric transmission line.  If a person takes the road to the left at Kennesis lake and you drive to the end past the signs that warn a person to go back, you end up at the high power transmission line. Patty Roseneath Ontario Ca > From: "patty94@" <patty94@> > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:21 PM > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > >   > > >
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                                                > > mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "caledonhum1" <caledonhum1@> wrote: > >Hi Caledon, I know where Stanhope Airport is. I went past there for years to a cottage at Kennisis Lake. To bad to hear that the HUM is there too. It is such a beautiful area on the lakes. I guess I should have known as much, my husband says that Algonquin Park is full of the very tall towers. > Patty > > > > Hi all, I posted my hearing test results in the photos section of this forum and previously stated that others should do so as we'll, but nobody has that I am aware of. At minimum, we need to rule out hearing conditions and determine if we have hearing related things in common, regardless if it's a natural phenomenon or not. I don't have tinnitus and my test results show that I have slight hearing loss at the higher Hz levels (need more decibals to hear) however my hearing seems better at the lower Hz levels ( less decibals to hear) according to the Audiologist's graph I
                                                > > posted. According to him, Hearing tests cannot measure below 125 Hz as it's considered below normal hearing. This is a problem as far as getting any standardized measurements. > > Last weekend I went to a cottage in the Algonquin Highlands / Haliburton, Ontario, Canada area, which is almost 3 hours / 240 km north east from where I live (already in a rural area) and I could hear the hum loud and clear in a 7 year old / newly constructed cottage as well as outdoors in the driveway. Hearing the hum outside has become more common for me over the last few months and I only started hearing the hum since mid August 2012. The only thing really close to this cottage is Stanhope airport, which is used by small planes / helicopters. The nearest towns are Carnarven, Minden and Haliburton. Not sure what their infrastructure is made up of, but there is a limited population I. These areas. I am leaning towards the hum being a natural earth sound as there is no obvious
                                                > > pattern that I can determine so far. I have learned to like noises of any sort as they block out the hum. > > Looked into moon cycles, which at first seemed to correlate with the hum for a couple of months, but my theory got thrown out the window when the pattern was no longer applicable. This is also true for weather conditions. > > > > Anyway, I would love to see more hearing test result posted in the photos section. > > > > All the best to all. > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@> wrote: > > > > > > Suzie - > > > That is a really good idea ! I had my hearing checked and it is better than normal on some frequencies and just normal on others. I do not have tinnitus, however my husband does and hears the high tinnitus whine and also the low Hum. > > > For all of those that I know with diagnosed tinnitus, they all say they hear a high pitched whine or buzz. If a large group of us go to get hearing tests
                                                > > complaining of a low Hum and their hearing tests come back within normal limits maybe those folks will start researching it more which will only help spread the word and possibly help the cause? > > > > > > Last night was back down to a 2-3 only to raise to a 7 around 8am EDT. (using a scale of 1-10 with 1 being not perceptible to 10 being the loudest it has ever been. Hopefully my 10 rating doesnÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢t have to be recalibrated because IÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢m not so sure how I would handle anything louder than what I already gave a 10). > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Soozie > > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:38 AM > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > > > > Every one of we hum hearers should have a thorough Ear, Nose,
                                                > and Throat doctor check our ears to rule
                                                > > out possible other ear issues, such as: > > > Meniere's Disease is an inner ear disorder that causes one to experience periods of vertigo, dizziness, nausea, ear pressure and tinnitus. It is a chronic condition and often leaves you feeling exhausted. > > > A typical attack of Meniere's Disease may be preceded by ear pressure, (a feeling of fullness in the ears) or aching in one or both ears. Hearing fluctuation and loud tinnitus noises may also precede an attack. > > > > > > > > > Some here have complained about dizziness, vertigo, nauses, and ear pressure. Those that have those symptoms should get themselves to a good ear doctor right away. > > > > > > I have no idea if these therapies work or not as I do not have tinnitus. > > > > > > For those who have diagnosed tinnitus: > > > > > > SoundCure(R) Launches the Serenade(R) Tinnitus Treatment System in the UK > > > Customized Sound Therapy Approach for Ringing Ears, With Novel Treatment Sounds > > >
                                                > > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/soundcure-r-launches-serenade-r-070000948.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAWj_QtDMD > > > > > > From Hydro Med Inc: New Therapy for Tinnitus to be presented April 15. ItÃÆ'¢â‚¬â„¢s the ability of a Patient to Show their Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hydro-med-inc-therapy-tinnitus-presented-april-15-071032674.html;_ylt=A2KJ2UZV3YVRokoAbD_QtDMD > > > > > > Flatirons Audiology Offers the Newest Treatment for Tinnitus > > > http://news.yahoo.com/flatirons-audiology-offers-newest-treatment-tinnitus-114038680.html;_ylt=A2KJ2Uar3oVRbUUArz_QtDMD > > > > > > Some natural therapies for tinnitus: > > > http://www.tinnitusmiracle.com/Tinnitus-Miracle.htm?hop=loginpage > > > > > > http://www.t-gone.com/ > > > > > > Suzie > > > > > > From: "xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>" <xyzxyz12311@<mailto:xyzxyz12311@>> > > > To: mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com<mailto:mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent:
                                                > Saturday, May 4, 2013
                                                > > 10:23 PM > > > Subject: HUM_FORUM: Re: Is the Hum part of Cochlear Implant conspiracy? > > > > > > Hello David > > > > > > When I went to my doctor about my tinnitus he said that > > > the only way to cure it was to cut the auditory nerve > > > but then he said that I would be deaf. > > > > > > I thought that being deaf would be a relief from the noise > > > that I hear but maybe not if you are able to hear the hum. > > > > > > It is very discouraging to have to listen to this noise all > > > day, what is it like for you? > > > > > > ertu ÃÆ'Æ'­slenskur? > > > > > > xyz > > > > > > --- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, "David" <djonsson@<mailto:djonsson@>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some perceive vibrations that can be felt through the body.. Deaf people feel vibrations.. I wondered about your opinions if you want to read my blog post about it, too. > > > > > > > > http://brotheryellow.com/2013/05/03/cochlear-implant-weaponry/ > > > > > > > >
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