RE: HUM_FORUM: HUM_FORUM: Re: The probable source of the HUM is sun spots
- Just thinking here.. If it does cut off the "hum".. Is that going to
necessarily prove it is a sound wave? Why could it not be that it is also
blocking a radio wave or source wave of some kind??
Sort of like how lead blocks radiation.. the box could just block the
non-sound pressure wave source.. .......
I think I explained that succinctly enough.. lol
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Subject: HUM_FORUM: HUM_FORUM: Re: The probable source of the HUM is sun
I beleive Glen (www.thehum.info) is on the verge of making/testing a thick
metal enclosure to prove if the HUM is radio or audio in nature.
--- In email@example.com, Simon Payne <camdesire@...> wrote:
> Interesting theory re evolution.. Clearly the biggest problem we have
> as a group is convincing others it is real. If you had never
> experienced tinnitus for example, you would wonder what all the fuss was
> Until I discovered this group I was almost convinced that it was all
> in my head, except... I managed to make some poor quality recordings
> of the hum, or "a hum" at least, and others could hear it. The problem
> I have with the RF source theory is simply this because, if it is a
> sound, can it also be a radio signal??
> Not sure if anyone has mentioned this before in the forum, but I would
> be interested to know if any other hearers have this experience, as I
> think it is an important characteristic of the hum: When I lie in bed
> in the early hours and the hum starts up, I can temporarily (for a few
> seconds at least) cancel it by shaking my head or turning it sharply to
one side or another.
> Sound familiar? It does resume shortly afterwards of course. My
> thinking here is that if it were indeed caused by some type of RF
> energy that is stimulating nerve cells in the brain directly, can it
> be disrupted temporarily by shaking or turning one's head? It would be
> interesting to try living in a Faraday cage or similar environment
> (sea container??) for a few day to see if the RF theory of the hum can be
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 5:18 AM, <Tobypaws2002@...> wrote:
> > **
> > **
> > In a message dated 10/03/2013 17:37:39 GMT Daylight Time,
> > resuocs@... writes:
> > > Besides the question still remains, why do we hear it and others do
> > What is different about us? How can we be more like those that can't
> > hear it?
> > Analogy : hay fever : some people get it, others are completely
> > unaffected...
> > I reason also that evolution would have favoured those who were able
> > to hear LFN, because if they weren't able to hear things like
> > thunder, landslides, flash floods, earthquakes, heavy beasts
> > rumbling towards them, volcanoes erupting, etc., then they would not
> > survive : the ones who DID hear LFN would escape more often.
> > So in my humble opinion, being sensitive to LFN is natural, from
> > very ancient evolution, an asset for survival.
> > For thousands of years, we humans have not HAD machines and all
> > sorts of mechanised installations, that make ever increasing levels
> > of LFN. So once the general levels have reached the approximate
> > threshold/s, people will start to notice it.
> > Best Wishes,
> > R.S.J.Mann,
> > LFNSH, England.
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- Danyele....I am about 2 or a little more than 2 hours away from White and Van Buren counties. I tell you what....if you hear the hum in those counties you know it is coming from the earth or the atmosphere itself because those areas are about as rural as you can get!!!
About a month ago, I spent a weekend in Nashville which is 3 hours from where I live and I did not hear the hum once while I was there. That was during a time frame when the hum was still quite loud here at my home....so go figure!!!
From: "Cottrell, Danyele Marie" <dcottrel@...>
To: "'firstname.lastname@example.org'" <email@example.com>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: HUM_FORUM: HUM_FORUM: Re: The probable source of the HUM is sun spots
Yes!! Ours seemed to be worse more in the mornings too! Normally it is loudest 11pm – around 3am, but it changed to be worse about 8am –on.
OK, definitely connected --- South Central Indiana and Eastern Tennessee. (I will be caving in August in White and VanBuren Counties– let me know if you are around there)Danyele...I have had the same experience here in E. TN. The last several weeks have been the best and the quietest weeks in a long time. I have also noticed a change in the timing of the loudest hum during the day. It used to start up pretty bad around 10 PM....now it is delayed to much later during the night and when I wake up in the morning it is the strongest. Thankfully, I am off doing things soon thereafter and therefore it does not bother me much then. There are also many more ambient sounds at that time of day that help to mask the hum. So...I am with you...what changed and what is different now than before????
4/28/13 – 5/9/13 Was the worst it has been (with waxing and waning – it wasn’t constantly horrendous). (9-10 scale)5/9/13 – 5/19/13 Lessoned considerably. Almost didn’t even need a fan to cover the sound, but it did help. (4-6 scale)5/20/13 – current Almost nothing to nothing! WWwoooo Hoooo (0-2)Now I am on a mission to find out what in the heck happened around here locally, in the world, in space, etcLet you know what I find outHave a great day everyone!Been bearable on and off for the last 2 weeks here. For what is going when needed for sleep, back to the ceiling fan in bedroom. I find the fan the best of all masking techniques. In a certain radius of the fan the hum caused air ear fluctuations and harshness are neutralized (at least at intensities occurring now)Great for you- no hum...Yes, and still using gas here every day,, and no hum still for going on 5 weeks.. no complaints…Late 60's early 70's the UK converted to natural gas and the use of high pressure transmission lines. Easily validated.
Sent from Steve's iPhone and I appologize for typo's
Unforunately the Aurora is too variable to relate exactly to the HUM, it is not on/off , I have noticed the HUM was loud once when the Aurora was large enough to be seen at the USA/CA border. Solar activity may be the cause of the HUM , something like whatever is causing global warming may be the catalyst, hence the recent proliferation. Also, it may have been with us for centuries but means of reporting were not abundant. I have a theory why the UK was an early reporter. In the early 60/70s , unlike America , there were probably 6 ot 7 national daily newspapers, it was a paper version of the Internet as far as news was concerned, maybe polution is the enabler ( and boy did we have ploution in the 60's in the UK) and the proliferation of newsapapers was the reason it was reported in the UK early.
--- In mailto:humforum%40yahoogroups.com, Tobypaws2002@... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/04/2013 22:27:05 GMT Daylight Time,
> glen.macpherson@... writes:
> > I'm skeptical of the theory that sunspots cause the acoustic phenomenon
> > > > known as hum in the atmosphere. First, humans have existed for over a
> > > > million years, yet there is no historical record of people being
> > > bothered by
> > > > hum until well into the industrial age which started in the 19th
> > > > The sun affects the upper atmosphere by means of the solar wind, a
> > > > stream of charged particles which becomes more intense during
> periods of
> > > > peak sunspot activity. This solar wind ionizes air molecules, causing
> > > them
> > > > to emit light which manifests as the aurora borealis, a vivid
> display of
> > > > shifting bands of light in the sky at polar latitudes. Yet, there is
> > > hum
> > > > reported to be associated with the aurora. John, as you live at high
> > > > latitude in British Columbia, have you ever noticed a hum associated
> > > > the aurora? I still believe the hum consists of low-frequency noise
> > > > various sources linked to human activity. Such noise can propagate
> > > long
> > > > distances in the atmosphere a nd cause the air in enclosed spaces to
> > > > resonate, disturbing people who inhabit those spaces.
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Thanks yet again, mr.steven.brown.
> > > >
> > > > It's what I've been saying for many years.
> > > >
> > > > For some reason, many people seem to be ignoring the obvious, i.e.,
> > > > activity making huge amounts of noise, which could be floating
> > > > overlapping with other low hums, and thus sounding louder, plus being
> > > > difficult to pinpoint. There must be a huge number of low frequency
> > > > emissions from jet planes, for example, buzzing all over the world,
> > > > at high altitudes. Maybe most of their LFN gets absorbed as it
> > > > downwards towards ground level, but who knows?
> > > >
> > > > Maybe enough seeps down then mixes with existing sources...
> > > >
> > > > I agree this Hum problem does seem linked to modern times....I would
> > > > money on it !
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > >
> > > > R.S.J.Mann,
> > > >
> > > > LFNSH, England.
> > > >
> > > > Any comments on my 'Information Pack' would be welcome,
> > > >
> > > > as I hope to try to edit it down somewhat, before sending to a kind
> > > > gentleman
> > > >
> > > > in Seattle, who a while ago offered to have it on his site.
> > > >
> > > > It is with N.H.S., at Gloucester : they kindly took it last year.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > e%20Sufferers%20Helpline.pdf
> > > >=========================================
> Hi, all,
> I just had an e-mail from the database/health
> information people in Gloucestershire, England,
> (see their previous link above)
> who very helpfully took lots of 'papers' from me,
> so that sufferers could read for themselves much
> of what I think about The Hum.
> They have altered their web address, to :
> My 'papers' seem to be there O.K.,
> and I hope there may be some useful
> ideas for you.
> I asked them to change part of the text today,
> but it's not a vitally important change,
> just about Noise Cancelling Headphones .
> By the way, have many of us tried that useful site
> that offers Tone Generating?
> Are you able to replicate , even approximately,
> the pitch of the Hum that you hear?
> It would be interesting to know what sort of frequencies
> you think you are receiving from the environment .
> Mine (I don't often hear it now thank goodness,
> only when the wind is from the city)
> seems around 33Hz., from what I remember:
> what a nightmare that was .
> I wonder if anyone could listen to their Hum, then get
> the Tone Generator going, then adjust the pitch till it
> coincides with your own incoming Hum's pitch?
> That would be interesting ?
> Best Wishes,
> LFNS Help,