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6340RE: [hugoye-list] Nestorian title "iffeliq"

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  • Lubin, Matthew
    Apr 17 7:56 PM

      Thank you, Professor Takahashi. Some cognate of “catholicos” is exactly what my working hypothesis has been. Just a bit surprised – but perhaps I should not be – that Riccoldo, who uses the Latin word catholicus elsewhere, did not discern or had not been informed of the linguistic connection of the Semitic and Greek versions of the word. After all, on this understanding of the word, Riccoldo did get the “universal” meaning correct – so it is not unreasonable to conjecture that a local Nestorian érudit might have expounded to him even further  on the background of this curiously-spelled word.  




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      Perhaps a corruption of Arabic jathaliq, "catholicos"?



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      From: Lubin, Matthew <mlubin@...>
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      Date: 2014-04-18 07:47:09
      Subject: [hugoye-list] Nestorian title "iffeliq"


      Fellow Listmembers,


      There is one further question I have – sorry to be rather information-needy just now. Riccoldo da Montecroce also says that “the Nestorians say of their patriarch, whom they call iffelic, which means universal, in a moment, in the blink of an eye went from Baghdad, where rests his seat, to Mecca…”

      Consulting Payne’s Syriac dictionary, I see nothing like iffeliq/afaliq/efeliq nor ipeliq, apaliq, epeliq. Any suggestions for the word for “universal” that Riccoldo heard or read here? The date is likely 1288-89.





      Matthew Lubin

      Research Collaborator

      Department of History

      University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill



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