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RE: [hreg] Earth Day 2002

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  • Claude Foster
    We were out of town last week end so did not see the event or the TV. However during the past century, we built a 18-72 volt electrical motor and speed control
    Message 1 of 42 , Apr 9, 2001
      We were out of town last week end so did not see the event or the TV.
      However during the past century, we built a 18-72 volt electrical motor and
      speed control for a VW bug. We calculated that the solar panel to drive it
      at 70 mph would be about 8' x 32'. We did not build the solar panels but
      used batteries recharged from the powerline. The speed control for the wide
      speed range was my thesis project and it can be very expensive. The wide
      range speed control and the special motor are long gone to recycle and our
      memory is slipping too.

      The engineering societies still encourage colleges and universities to
      participate in cross country competitions. Popular science magazines are a
      fairly good reference for these activities. Their articles tend to be
      spectacular (media) compared to the long hours and the grunt work required
      but they have some pretty engaging text and good photos.

      Slower speeds, reduced range, better batteries, and better choice of running
      gear would improve the cost but it would still require significant funding.
      We would be happy to share some experiences from the early 70s with anyone
      who is interested and committed to a vehicle.

      First estimate of cost for good, used, attractive, open running gear, DC
      motor, simple speed control, battery and solar panel is about $5,000 plus
      labor. We could proceed in steps with the chassis first, motor second, speed
      control third, then battery and solar panel.

      Just now we are working to convince the City of the Astros to invest in
      fixed solar power for some of their facilities. Good things take time. Also
      some things improve over time. Solar generation is a technology whose time
      has come.

      Please let me know when and where the hreg design team assembles.

      Claude Foster, P.E.
      (713) 266-6990

      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: ChasMauch@... [SMTP:ChasMauch@...]
      > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:26 PM
      > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [hreg] Earth Day 2002
      > Oral,
      > You say "here is a picture to show what the booth looked like" but I
      > didn't
      > get it. Where can I see the picture?
      > Also, another thought - how hard would it be to build a solar car - not
      > just
      > a little go cart but something bigger? I remember that different colleges
      > used to build solar cars and they had cross-country races. It wouldn't
      > have
      > to be that powerful and we could enter it in all the local parades - like
      > the
      > Art Car Parade, MLK Day, Gay Pride, maybe even the rodeo (put some horns
      > on
      > it and call it a longhorn steer or whatever) and every other parade that
      > comes along. Some of us could walk alongside it and hand out literature to
      > the crowd watching the parade. One way to get some publicity.
      > Charlie
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    • Steve Shepard
      Re: [hreg] Earth Day 2002Having been a RG reseller, Local Pro and stock holder in the past I think if more people knew what is going on with this company they
      Message 42 of 42 , Apr 12, 2001
        Re: [hreg] Earth Day 2002
        Having been a RG reseller, Local Pro and stock holder in the past I think if more people knew what is going on with this company they would be less inclined to conduct business with them.
        Recently RG elected to sell out to a large corporation in Ohio.  Some of the terms of that deal were that the wholesale program for regional dealers and Local Pros was eliminated, stockholders were compensated at a ten to one loss and Schaeffer got to keep the Solar Living Center as his own little non-profit toy.  Not to mention the massive layoffs that occurred at RG when the catalog operations were shifted to Ohio. 
        Real Goods is not the warm, fuzzy company that they have successfully managed to convince the general public they are.  This is yet another cold, calculating corporation that does not hesitate to screw associates, employees and investors to achieve single minded objectives.  To anyone who thinks this company is a Earth friendly, green, sustainable business I hope they soon understand this is not the case.
        SBT Designs
        25840 IH-10 West #1
        Boerne, Texas 78006
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:26 PM
        Subject: Re: [hreg] Earth Day 2002

          Real Goods SolFest every summer.

        More info from their newsletter:

        Plans continue to be laid for SolFest 2001, produced by the non-profit Institute for Solar Living, which nurtures and maintains the Solar Living Center, and concentrates on its mission of inspirational, environmental education. It is the ISL that puts on over 40 educational workshops every year, runs tours for students and energy professionals, and produces the 6th Annual SolFest, the nation's premier energy and sustainable living festival.                                            

                                                        So far scheduled to speak are Roy McAlister, president of the American Hydrogen Association and Dave Foreman, founder of EarthFirst! and currently working on the "re-wilding" of the SouthWest. Paul Ray and Sherry Anderson, demographers extraordinaire who coined the term "cultural creatives", will be leading an interactive workshop on who we are as cultural creatives and where we are going. Many more great speakers are on the "not-yet-confirmed list.                                           

                                                        Musically, the talent is beginning to line up and invitation letters have gone out to Bruce Cockburn, Crosby-Stills-Nash, Bonnie Raitt, Ben Harper, Keb Mo, Indigo Girls, and more - just who we land musically is yet to be determined. Mark your calendars for August 25th and 26th! We'll keep you updated on more news about the event in future issues of the Solar Times.                                        

                                                        Enjoy the Spring!                                               

                                                        John Schaeffer                                          
                                                        Real Goods President & Founder                                          

        I too read about that concert in California, but can't remember the
        source.  I think the concert was called Pig Fest, which may aid in
        anyone's search.


        Robert Johnston wrote:
        > I'm sorry I can't recall where I read about it, but it might have been
        > the RealGoods catalog.  Anyway, there is an annual concert in California
        > by a rock band with a huge sound system that is entirely powered by solar
        > panels.  They have to store up the juice in batteries due to the high
        > peak loads during the concert.  You might search the web for this.
        > Alternatively, you could always go with my preferred kind of music
        > (classical) and have a string quartet play with little need for
        > amplification
        > at all.  :-)
        > Robert

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