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Re: [hreg] Re: Any reports on Dr Hansen's talk

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  • Alyssa Burgin
    Focused solar (with mirrors) that tracks the sun does indeed use water. I couldn t tell you how much, because I m neither advocating them or working against
    Message 1 of 16 , Dec 11, 2009
      Focused solar (with mirrors) that tracks the sun does indeed use water. I couldn't tell you how much, because I'm neither advocating them or working against them. The nuclear power threat to our water was and is still very real, since the San Antonio city council situation with Toshiba and NRG remains in limbo, as they still consider building two more reactors in Bay City.  
       I've worked with the organization opposing it, as has a member of my advisory board who is an expert on the use of water to procure energy. She's a civil engineer. My information regarding nuclear power plants comes directly from her, actually.

      Jeremy Rifkin talks about distributive power systems a great deal in his lectures and his work. It would make sense to me, Evelyn, to have individual power systems attached to individual buildings--i.e., one's own solar panels, one's own geothermal, perhaps even one's own wind turbine of some sort. Rifkin says that eventually, a building won't be built unless it can power itself. I don't think that's unrealistic.

      Alyssa Burgin
      On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@...> wrote:

      As far as the water issue isn't that the same issue with the commercial solar power plants and the fact that they need to use water to cool them off also? Like always...aren't  things in moderation (solar panels installed on top of roofs) compared to massive corporate production of anything (like biodesiel) ends up more of a problem than a solution when it goes corporate? This is a question  not a put down..... Evelyn

      --- On Thu, 12/10/09, Alyssa Burgin <aburgin4peace@...> wrote:

      From: Alyssa Burgin <aburgin4peace@...>
      Subject: Re: [hreg] Re: Any reports on Dr Hansen's talk
      To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:21 AM


      Nuclear power may work great in France, but they're still not considering the waste factor, which, let's face it, is inevitable given the current technology. Maybe that will change, but it's not changing fast enough to avoid leaving the next hundreds of generations a serious issue, even a deadly issue. We need a new nuclear technology. Part of Dr. Hansen's spiel was that we are being left behind in that research and that China is far ahead of us. I can't say, because I don't have Chinese scientific contacts, but it certainly sounds like they are far ahead in a search for fourth-generation nuclear technology.

      But that's not the point for Texas. I don't know if you have followed the contentious debate over the water uses of the lower Colorado River, but it's boiling over--and I don't mean the water. Between urban users upstream, and rice farmers downstream, there is, in drought-stricken times, no water left to fuss over. And certainly no water for the cooling of power plants. If added to, the nuclear power system in Matagorda county--one of the most extreme (stages 3 and 4) drought-stricken areas of the state in the previous drought, and one of the last areas to show improvement- -would consume 220 Olympic sized swimming pools of water a day. It's significant that the drought was there for one reason---evaporatio n. With the extreme heat, the evaporation rate was at a level previously not even considered. When others are fighting over that water, it makes no sense to watch it disappear every day in those amounts.

      And by the way, the reason the questions were pre-selected, I'm guessing, is partially because it was offered as a "plus" for those who bought the patron tickets to be able to offer a question. That's a big incentive to sell tickets in any forum.

      Alyssa Burgin
      Director, the Texas Drought Project

      On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Jay <txses@mailbot. transcendent. us> wrote:
      I am going to say, I have a very dim view of pre-selecting questions.

      I think nuclear power is great. I don't want to belabor the point here too much, but you know France has a great history with it and it is very popular there. People are just so resistant to changes.

      Never mind CO2, which it does not produce, it also doesn't produce any smog, SO2, NO2, and ozone. The small amount of waste it does produce is contained, rather than vented into the atmosphere near heavily populated areas. It also promotes energy independence and drives new technology.

      So cheers to Dr Hansen for that.

      --- In hreg@yahoogroups. com, Alyssa Burgin <aburgin4peace@ ...> wrote:
      > I was there, and got to speak with him privately before the event as well as
      > hear him speak.
      > He gave a detailed, but not particularly rousing, presentation on climate
      > change, complete with a lot of the details we've all heard again and again.
      > He had a powerpoint with excellent graphs and pictures--particula rly with

      > the latest data on this having been the hottest decade yet--and then he took
      > pre-submitted questions in a sit-down format with Randall Morton.
      > The questions ranged from skeptical/denial questions to questions on
      > specifics about climate change. He handled them all well. I was concerned
      > about his well-publicized advocacy of nuclear power, but he insists that he
      > is talking about a fourth-generation nuclear power that does not have the
      > waste and half-life issues of the past. I don't really see the evidence that
      > that is here yet, so I will remain skeptical on that issue.
      > In person, he was much warmer than I had thought he would be, and he looked
      > vigorous and strong. He also has a sense of humor.
      > Alyssa Burgin
      > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Chris Boyer <boyer.chris@ ...>wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > Can anyone who went give a report on Dr Hansen's talk?
      > >
      > >

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