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  • Ed Joyner
    ... Way to go Ty! I feel the same way you do. I believe it would be better for these left wing radicals that hate this country to find another place to post
    Message 1 of 41 , Jul 3, 2008
      tstranger@... wrote:

      Moderators? Any chance for intervention here?
      I don't know how many other veterans are on this list and feel the way I
      do, but if this is allowed to continue then I'll be off the list by

      Ahmad - If I don't like the way the HREG group is being managed then I'll
      leave. I strongly recommend you do the same with your country of residence.


      Ty Stranger-Thorsen, CSI, USGBC
      Houston, TX
      The Garland Company, Inc.
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      Sent by: hreg@yahoogroups. com
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      Re: [hreg] Why can't we do this in
      07/03/2008 02:48 America

      Please respond to

      This page is about renewable energy and the original posting was about why
      our crooked leaders in Washington are not building, encouraging and
      investing in renewable energy such as Germany and China? We could turn
      the state of Arizona and Nevada into giant megaton solar power plants.
      Instead they wage wars, havoc and terror against other nations such as
      Iraq to loot their resources. Our violent leaders have murdered hundreds
      of thousands of Iraqi men, women & children just to please the Hummer and
      other SUV drivers. But most of all to please the greedy oilmen and
      pollute our skies. Evidently there are people who wrap themselves in the
      red, white and blue then turn around and spit on the constitution.


      There are people who wrap themselves

      --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Ed Joyner <edjoyner@sbcglobal. net> wrote:
      From: Ed Joyner <edjoyner@sbcglobal. net>
      Subject: Re: [hreg] Why can't we do this in America
      To: hreg@yahoogroups. com
      Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 10:06 AM

      Way to go Gary!!! I agree with you 100%! In the Vietnam war days the
      soldiers (including me) would tell these idiot leftists to either
      love this wonderful country, or leave it! No one is keeping them
      here. And, a one way ticket to Germany or China isn't that much.
      This anti-American attitude is most likely fostered by the decadent
      public school system in most inner cities.

      Happy 4th of July to you too and to all those who love this great


      Gary Beck wrote:

      I love it. Just in time for the 4th of July.

      Okay, let me get this straight. You live in a country that
      leads by example and by goodness, and because it is the first
      one down the path, occasionally stumbles, but always has
      regained its footing.

      Yet, you think America, a country founded and shaped by
      immigrants, is a bad, dumb, bully. And mysteriously the
      countries that supplied America's immigrants are all good,
      smart, and peaceful.

      Hmmm,…maybe there's something in our water.

      My July 4th Responses:

      1. You are oblivious to the comfort and safety that is
      provided by this great country. Go rent 'Kite Runner' to
      adjust your perspective.

      2. Buy some solar PVs, disconnect your meter, and buy some
      sturdy lawn chairs since you will be more comfortable outside.

      3. Then sell your car, buy a bike, a Metro Pass, and start a
      vegetable garden. Then buy a beer cooler to set 'tween them
      lawn chairs.

      4. Finally, quit complaining and electing those crooks, and
      send me a list of their names - I'm from Joisey, …I know a guy
      who knows a guy….

      I worked for a German company for 5 years and have traveled to
      China many times. Great experiences and great cultures that
      each specifically value technology, engineers, designers, and

      And like the USA, also countries whose economies run 98% on
      oil, gas, and coal. So get used to it, buy only efficient
      appliances and cars, and design to use less.

      And Have a Happy 4th!

      Gary Beck, P.E., LEED AP

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      From: hreg@yahoogroups. com [mailto:hreg@ yahoogroups. com] On
      Behalf Of Solar Energy
      Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:08 AM
      To: hreg
      Subject: [hreg] Why can't we do this in America

      We have more sun in America than Germany does, how come we can't run the
      Southwest & especially Las Vegas entirely on renewable energy? I suppose
      the crooks in Washington find it more profitable for the rich & powerful
      to invade countries like Iraq and take over their fossil fuel.

      Germany’s Model Green City

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=2ic2aiOg_ c4

      China’s Wind Power

      http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=kgfxRdIiT3k

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      Way to go Ty!  I feel the same way you do.  I believe it would be better for these left wing radicals that hate this country to find another place to post their hatred instead of slopping up this site with their anti-American garbage.  I want to hear about alternative energy here since I thought that this was what this site was all about.

    • evelyn sardina
      Your efforts are appreciated.... Thanks! ... From: George J. Strnad Subject: RE: [hreg] Re: Trimming posts was : List owners note :
      Message 41 of 41 , Jul 11, 2008
        Your efforts are appreciated.... Thanks!

        --- On Fri, 7/11/08, George J. Strnad <streamline@...> wrote:
        From: George J. Strnad <streamline@...>
        Subject: RE: [hreg] Re: Trimming posts was : List owners note : was Why can't we do this in America
        To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:43 PM

        Both are available to be used.  This is NOT meant to divide this group.  Not at all.  I hope it is not coming across as such.  It is totally intended as uniting both groups, making it easier to modify/moderate/ view/access for everyone.  I saw a person who was having a hard time, and offered help.  It is available for all.  You all can ask ANY forums moderator, there is ZERO $$$ gained from having a Forums.   It is solely to bring this group together, and more cohesive.   I am working on an update to the Forums as we speak, I think there may be a version of it that can be low bandwidth.

        Please do not mistake this as anything else except help.  I feel a bit villified for trying to be a nice guy.  If you don't like it,  or want it changed, just let us know.  If you want to moderate,  just let us know..  Times are moving forward, we are just facilitating that.

        I hope that I am clear about my intentions.   You all are my colleagues so, I am trying to approach you as such with my efforts.


        --- On Sat, 7/12/08, evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@ yahoo.com> wrote:
        From: evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@ yahoo.com>
        Subject: RE: [hreg] Re: Trimming posts was : List owners note : was Why can't we do this in America
        To: hreg@yahoogroups. com
        Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 12:23 AM

        I like it too... If anyone wants to join the other forum then it's all good. I say keep it like it is.

        --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Robert Johnston <junk1@plastability. com> wrote:
        From: Robert Johnston <junk1@plastability. com>
        Subject: RE: [hreg] Re: Trimming posts was : List owners note : was Why can't we do this in America
        To: hreg@yahoogroups. com
        Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 7:19 PM

        I’m perfectly happy with the existing arrangement.


        From: hreg@yahoogroups. com [mailto:hreg@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of phil6142@aol. com
        Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:31 AM
        To: hreg@yahoogroups. com
        Subject: Re: [hreg] Re: Trimming posts was : List owners note : was Why can't we do this in America


        I will contact the alternateenergycent ral.com webmaster about setting up the HREG space through their forums and giving me moderator access I will let you know when it is done.  I do not want to divide the group I was just offering help since you asked for it, if everyone is happy to stay here I am fine with that too. 

        I will let you know when the other forum is ready.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@txcyber. com>
        To: hreg@yahoogroups. com
        Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 6:13 am
        Subject: Re: [hreg] Re: Trimming posts was : List owners note : was Why can't we do this in America


        This is fine with me. You will be the new list owner on the new format.
        May I suggest you set up the site and post the invitation to this
        group. If the majority of people move their subscription to the new
        forum, I will shut down this list. Please make it clear, that when
        subscribing to the new list, they should drop their membership from this
        list so we know who wants the new format.

        I will send out the invitation to all the members that are no mail but
        that receive special notices, when you are ready.

        Bright Blessings,

        phil6142@aol. com wrote:
        > Actually in my last post I did volunteer to moderate it if it was
        > switched to a more user friendly forum than yahoo. The posts have been
        > trimmed so we will have to back to old emails to see:
        > "I also would be willing to moderate a forum hosted on a site like
        > alternateenergycent ral.com but not on yahoo (I have heard how difficult
        > yahoo is for the moderator). The offer to move the discussion came not
        > because everyone wanted an upgrade but because you asked for help. If
        > you don't want help then by all means keep the forum wherever you want
        > it kept."
        > Phillip

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