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  • Susan Modikoane
    Try looking at the online courses from Solar Energy International. http://www.solarenergy.org/ William wrote: Hello all, I have been a
    Message 1 of 5 , Jan 9, 2008
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      Try looking at the online courses from Solar Energy International.
       
      http://www.solarenergy.org/

      William <stangfam@...> wrote:
      Hello all,
      I have been a residential electrician (some
      commercial/industri al) for almost 28 years now. I have tried before to
      brainstorm how to get RE experience while staying employed to keep my
      family finances intact. While exploring the job market nationally most
      employers want someone already versed in the trade of Solar lets say.
      OK, well I looked at getting certified either in Austin or Colorado to
      be able to sit for the NABCEP exam. The courses are quite expensive
      and consume precious work time ($$). Being self-employed this presents
      quite a situation I have always had a passion for RE, homebuilding,
      along with passive/mass solar installations and this has become quite
      frustrating. With all of the problem-solving and intelligence from
      this group I plead my case for any ideas that you all may have.
      Thank you all in advance,
      William B. Stange



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    • Jim & Janet
      The cost and the PV course certificate is the easy part. In 1993 the cost of a PV design and installation course was $1200.00 and took 40 hours. There were no
      Message 2 of 5 , Jan 9, 2008
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        The cost and the PV course certificate is the easy part. In 1993 the cost of a PV design and installation course was $1200.00 and took 40 hours. There were no PP presentations, CD's or online study guides. The manuals, 2-3 ring binders were 2 inches thick each. There were hours of lectures, o/h projectors and whiteboard notes as well as the hands on part. A complete written design was required and was hand graded. You will still get what you pay for.
        I know of almost no PV installation companies in Texas that didn't begin at the ground up and bust their hump to get whatever modest income they have achieved. Many others have failed or given up and vanished from our ranks. Those who hang on will hopefully succeed but it won't happen until the incentives arrive statewide.
        Even AE's decent rebate program has seen installers startup and still fail. I personally find it hard to believe that a truly dedicated PV installation company could NOT survive with the "free money" as is available in the Austin market. Granted the free money brings installers "out of the woodwork" but only the smart and motivated will survive. The exception is usually the deep pockets.
        Still businesses with deep pockets have no excuse not to survive, though having adequate business collateral still doesn't guarantee that a company can do a safe, reputable and efficient PV installation.
        If you are looking for job security you already posses it. If you are looking for a new career at your age (my age too) you have as good a chance as any other entrepreneur. But if you don't have the stomach for a long hard struggle, you won't be happy and you probably won't survive.
        Good luck
        Jim Duncan
        North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
        817.917.057
        ntrei@...
         
         
         
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        Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:17 PM
        Subject: Re: [hreg] RE experience

        Try looking at the online courses from Solar Energy International.
         
        Hello all,
        I have been a residential electrician (some
        commercial/industri al) for almost 28 years now. I have tried before to
        brainstorm how to get RE experience while staying employed to keep my
        family finances intact. While exploring the job market nationally most
        employers want someone already versed in the trade of Solar lets say.
        OK, well I looked at getting certified either in Austin or Colorado to
        be able to sit for the NABCEP exam. The courses are quite expensive
        and consume precious work time ($$). Being self-employed this presents
        quite a situation I have always had a passion for RE, homebuilding,
        along with passive/mass solar installations and this has become quite
        frustrating. With all of the problem-solving and intelligence from
        this group I plead my case for any ideas that you all may have.
        Thank you all in advance,
        William B. Stange



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      • Kevin Conlin
        Good advice, Jim. Everybody loves solar, and a lot of people want to be in the business, but as you know firsthand, making a living at it is not always easy.
        Message 3 of 5 , Jan 9, 2008
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          Good advice, Jim.  Everybody loves solar, and a lot of people want to be in the business, but as you know firsthand, making a living at it is not always easy.

           

           

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          From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim & Janet
          Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:17 PM
          To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [hreg] RE experience

           

          The cost and the PV course certificate is the easy part. In 1993 the cost of a PV design and installation course was $1200.00 and took 40 hours. There were no PP presentations, CD's or online study guides. The manuals, 2-3 ring binders were 2 inches thick each. There were hours of lectures, o/h projectors and whiteboard notes as well as the hands on part. A complete written design was required and was hand graded. You will still get what you pay for.

          I know of almost no PV installation companies in Texas that didn't begin at the ground up and bust their hump to get whatever modest income they have achieved. Many others have failed or given up and vanished from our ranks. Those who hang on will hopefully succeed but it won't happen until the incentives arrive statewide.

          Even AE's decent rebate program has seen installers startup and still fail. I personally find it hard to believe that a truly dedicated PV installation company could NOT survive with the "free money" as is available in the Austin market. Granted the free money brings installers "out of the woodwork" but only the smart and motivated will survive. The exception is usually the deep pockets.

          Still businesses with deep pockets have no excuse not to survive, though having adequate business collateral still doesn't guarantee that a company can do a safe, reputable and efficient PV installation.

          If you are looking for job security you already posses it. If you are looking for a new career at your age (my age too) you have as good a chance as any other entrepreneur. But if you don't have the stomach for a long hard struggle, you won't be happy and you probably won't survive.

          Good luck

          Jim Duncan

          North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
          817.917.057
          ntrei@earthlink. net

           

           

           

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          Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:17 PM

          Subject: Re: [hreg] RE experience

           

          Try looking at the online courses from Solar Energy International.

           

          Hello all,
          I have been a residential electrician (some
          commercial/industri al) for almost 28 years now. I have tried before to
          brainstorm how to get RE experience while staying employed to keep my
          family finances intact. While exploring the job market nationally most
          employers want someone already versed in the trade of Solar lets say.
          OK, well I looked at getting certified either in Austin or Colorado to
          be able to sit for the NABCEP exam. The courses are quite expensive
          and consume precious work time ($$). Being self-employed this presents
          quite a situation I have always had a passion for RE, homebuilding,
          along with passive/mass solar installations and this has become quite
          frustrating. With all of the problem-solving and intelligence from
          this group I plead my case for any ideas that you all may have.
          Thank you all in advance,
          William B. Stange

           


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        • Heath Payne
          William, I m in a similar situation but lack the electrical experience. I m going to take it one installation at a time. I ll install a system on my house
          Message 4 of 5 , Jan 9, 2008
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            William, I'm in a similar situation but lack the electrical experience.  I'm going to take it one installation at a time.  I'll install a system on my house and then go from there.  I recently completed the SEI PV Design workshop (Hosted by Meridian Solar in Austin) and online Advanced PV courses.  The week long workshop covered the basics.  It was a good foundation and kulled out those who had doubts about getting into the PV Biz.  I highly recommend taking the online course after the workshop if you can't make the trip to Colorado.  The Advanced PV course will get you more comfortable with system design and NEC regs.  


             
            Regards,
            Heath Payne
            Stonewood Services
            281-636-8944


            ----- Original Message ----
            From: Jim & Janet <jhd1@...>
            To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 1:17:22 PM
            Subject: Re: [hreg] RE experience

            The cost and the PV course certificate is the easy part. In 1993 the cost of a PV design and installation course was $1200.00 and took 40 hours. There were no PP presentations, CD's or online study guides. The manuals, 2-3 ring binders were 2 inches thick each. There were hours of lectures, o/h projectors and whiteboard notes as well as the hands on part. A complete written design was required and was hand graded. You will still get what you pay for.
            I know of almost no PV installation companies in Texas that didn't begin at the ground up and bust their hump to get whatever modest income they have achieved. Many others have failed or given up and vanished from our ranks. Those who hang on will hopefully succeed but it won't happen until the incentives arrive statewide.
            Even AE's decent rebate program has seen installers startup and still fail. I personally find it hard to believe that a truly dedicated PV installation company could NOT survive with the "free money" as is available in the Austin market. Granted the free money brings installers "out of the woodwork" but only the smart and motivated will survive. The exception is usually the deep pockets.
            Still businesses with deep pockets have no excuse not to survive, though having adequate business collateral still doesn't guarantee that a company can do a safe, reputable and efficient PV installation.
            If you are looking for job security you already posses it. If you are looking for a new career at your age (my age too) you have as good a chance as any other entrepreneur. But if you don't have the stomach for a long hard struggle, you won't be happy and you probably won't survive.
            Good luck
            Jim Duncan
            North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
            817.917.057
            ntrei@earthlink. net
             
             
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:17 PM
            Subject: Re: [hreg] RE experience

            Try looking at the online courses from Solar Energy International.
             
            Hello all,
            I have been a residential electrician (some
            commercial/industri al) for almost 28 years now. I have tried before to
            brainstorm how to get RE experience while staying employed to keep my
            family finances intact. While exploring the job market nationally most
            employers want someone already versed in the trade of Solar lets say.
            OK, well I looked at getting certified either in Austin or Colorado to
            be able to sit for the NABCEP exam. The courses are quite expensive
            and consume precious work time ($$). Being self-employed this presents
            quite a situation I have always had a passion for RE, homebuilding,
            along with passive/mass solar installations and this has become quite
            frustrating. With all of the problem-solving and intelligence from
            this group I plead my case for any ideas that you all may have.
            Thank you all in advance,
            William B. Stange



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