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Re: dream - Tesla Roadster

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  • Ariel Thomann
    Please understand: when I talk about 44 mpg I clearly imply I know I m using gasoline, and of course it s just transitional technology for this point in car
    Message 1 of 12 , Aug 3, 2006
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      Please understand: when I talk about 44 mpg I clearly imply I know I'm using gasoline,
      and of course it's just transitional technology for this point in car evolution. The
      plug-in conversion (if I could afford it) would help me evolve half a step further.

      I too wish I could have what might by now be an "EV-10", the product of 10 years of
      evolution of the ill-fated EV-1 (particularly with the latest batteries, etc).

      - We are all Human beings here together. We have to help one another, since otherwise
      there is NO ONE who will help.
      - All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy. Think ahead 7 generations.

      > Sorry to disagree, but my point is that all the hybrid car energy ultimately comes
      > from gasoline. When a hybrid gets electricity from kinetic energy, all of that
      > kinetic energy was created by the power of gasoline (or from electricity that can be
      > eventually traced to the gasoline). The electricity never comes from outside the
      > vehicle, except for the initial factory charge of the (currently
      > small) battery, or any subsequent external battery charging you may do at home, etc.
      > A plug-in will provide a larger battery for
      > external charging.
      > All external vehicle forces are detrimental, such as wind and
      > friction resistance. Achieving charging while going downhill is
      > more than negated by going uphill before (or after). "More than" because every
      > conversion incurs effeciency losses.
      > If you still have difficulty understanding my viewpoint, supply
      > examples that appear to contradict, and I'll be happy to try again - no offense
      > intended; none taken.
      > We both agree that you do have a very energy efficient car, that
      > makes great use of that ICE. (such as storing and reusing otherwise wasted energy
      > production)
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