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  • Ariel Thomann
    Didn t those bike folks in NYC get in trouble a couple of years ago when they pushed their luck a bit? Ariel - We are all Human beings here together. We have
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      Didn't those bike folks in NYC get in trouble a couple of years ago when they pushed
      their luck a bit?

      Ariel
      - We are all Human beings here together. We have to help one another, since otherwise
      there is NO ONE who will help.
      - All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy. Think ahead 7 generations.
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      > In NY City, the first Friday evening of each month, cyclists meet up in downtown to
      > flex their collective muscle. Often 5,000 will be in control of the streets. That's
      > what you call critical mass. I don't have the link any more but the pictures are
      > pretty bizarre. Jim Duncan
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Nan Hildreth
      > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com ; hreg@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:45 AM
      > Subject: Re: [hreg] hreg meeting feed back
      >
      >
      > Yes, bicycling makes you realize that our city was built for cars. Humbling. When
      > there are lots of bicyclists, they can unite in a critical mass to be more assertive
      > in traffic.
      >
      > How will houston get around when/if gasoline is $10, $20 or $50 per gallon?
      >
      > Nan
      >
      > At 10:02 AM 8/2/2006, Garth & Kim Travis wrote:
      >
      >
      > Greetings,
      > I do not live any where near a city and the traffic on my roads is insane, no cops
      > patrolling due to being a very poor county. I personally have seen too many
      > cyclist die on our roads. The ditches are littered with crosses with bicycles
      > attached. To each his/her own, but rural conditions are not the same as city
      > conditions. Suburban is still city, I am in the real country. When we lived in
      > Edmonton, we both had bicycles and used them.
      >
      > I totally agree that cycles and city go together. Unfortunately people in the
      > country don't seem to understand that the entire road doesn't belong to them.
      > Many of them have been here for so long, that they just can't adapt to the fact
      > that someone else might be driving on their road. City driving is much safer, in
      > many ways.
      >
      > It is a shame, for many of us would like to use bicycles to do short runs of 5
      > miles or under.
      >
      > Bright Blessings,
      > Kim
      >
      >
      > At 09:21 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote:
      >
      > I do hate to disagree with you about cycling on narrow Fm roads, but the teacher
      > of the bicycle saftety course, Peter Wang, cycles from Fm 1960 and FM 529
      > (Copperfield subdivision) to his job near UH, a trip of > 25 miles then rides
      > the van pool home. So the safety of bicycling on Fm roads is a matter of
      > opinion.
      >
      > in the Post Peak Oil houston, getting around will be a challenge. This city
      > sprawls so that i think transit can not easily replace our current system of
      > cars. But transit plus bicycling is a powerful combination. I belabor the
      > point because it seems the united states is making war to stall making radical
      > change in our commuting methods. a step toward regaining our integrity is
      > envisioning how houston could function with decreasing oil supplies.
      >
      > you can chat with Wang about bicycle commuting on FM roads and more at the 8/13
      > peak oil conference. To pre-register www.houstonpeakoil.org
      >
      > At 07:55 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote:
      >
      > Greetings,
      > How wonderful, good luck on quitting smoking. I know from experience how hard
      > that job is. It is not safe to bicycle where I live. Narrow FM roads leave
      > no room for cyclists. Three miles would not get me to my post office box and
      > back. I hope more cyclists take the safety course. Bright Blessings,
      > Kim
      >
      >
      > At 07:46 PM 8/1/2006, you wrote:
      >
      > I biked 3 miles today and it took about twenty minutes. The biggest danger
      > to my health is my smoking. Exercise helps me try to quit.
      >
      > On traffic safety, I took the 12 hour class by geologist Peter Wang, "Safety
      > on the Street - Bicycle Riding for Commters" that he gives at LLU.com
      > Email him for time of the next session pwang01@... He commutes 30
      > miles on his bike.
      >
      > At 12:37 PM 8/1/2006, you wrote:
      >
      > Greetings,
      > For those of you that live in the city and have safe places to ride, I
      > think bicycles are wonderful. Please, put a rear view mirror on them,
      > though. I hate seeing people die because they don't see the idiot talking
      > on their cell phone and using the shoulder and driving lane to compensate
      > for their lack of concentration. While I know the driver of the car is at
      > fault, the cyclist is still dead. And I still have the nightmares of
      > having watched it happen. I would hate for it to happen to anyone on this
      > list. Bright Blessings,
      > Kim
      >
      >
      > At 08:58 AM 8/1/2006, you wrote:
      >
      > After looking at NEV's (Neighborhood Electric Vehicles), I started
      > looking at LEV's, (Light Electric Vehicles): electric scooters and
      > electric bicycles. And regular bicycles. They use the unwanted oils
      > and fats in my butt.
      >
      > At 09:16 PM 7/31/2006, you wrote:
      >
      > Evelyn,
      >
      > About 5% of the petroleum used today goes to making plastics and other
      > materials. It is sad that we are burning this precious resource.
      >
      > Good news! Most plastics are recycleable. More good news! People are
      > figuring out how to make plastics from biomass.
      >
      > As for electric vehicles...
      > Companies making NEV's (max 20 mph on streets up to 30 mph): 1) The
      > Gizmo by the Neighborhood Electric Vehicle Company 2) The GEM by
      > Daimlier Chrysler
      > 3) The Gorilla
      > 4) The Lido by Western
      >
      > Companies making enclosed 3 wheel EVs:
      > 1) Twike (small enclosed 3 wheel electric trike)
      > 2) Myer's motors (formerly the Corbin Sparrow)
      > 3) The Doran (homebuild from plans)
      >
      > Regards,
      > Chris
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@...> wrote:
      > I thank everyone who contributed to the meeting today. I learn so
      > much when I attend. I found the meeting informative and at the same
      > time very light hearted! This one is for Bashir... If we are trying
      > to use less fosil fuels then how are cells made of plastic going to
      > decrease the dependancy of fosils? This one is for Chris... Do you
      > mind posting the name of those to vehicles with the covers? I would
      > like to find out more information about them. I wish the wind and
      > solar people would move faster. It was disheartening to see that we
      > are still so dependent on coal,oil and (God help us all) nuclear. I
      > like the idea of the reduced emisions but I think it is just a patch
      > and not a solution. Just thought I put in my two cents. Evelyn
      >
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      > Nan Hildreth, Houston 713-842-6643
      > 3939 Luca St., Houston, Tx 77021
      >
      > If we attempt to ... do things ... for the world without deepening our
      > own self-understanding, ... freedom, integrity, and capacity to love, we
      > will not have anything to give to others. We will communicate nothing
      > but our own obsessions, our aggressiveness, our ego-centered ambitions;
      > Thomas Merton quoted in Soul of a Citizen by Paul Rogat Loeb
      >
      >
      > Nan Hildreth, Houston 713-842-6643
      > 3939 Luca St., Houston, Tx 77021
      >
      > If we attempt to ... do things ... for the world without deepening our own
      > self-understanding, ... freedom, integrity, and capacity to love, we will
      > not have anything to give to others. We will communicate nothing but our own
      > obsessions, our aggressiveness, our ego-centered ambitions; Thomas Merton
      > quoted in Soul of a Citizen by Paul Rogat Loeb
      >
      >
      > Nan Hildreth, Houston 713-842-6643
      > 3939 Luca St., Houston, Tx 77021
      >
      > If we attempt to ... do things ... for the world without deepening our own
      > self-understanding, ... freedom, integrity, and capacity to love, we will not
      > have anything to give to others. We will communicate nothing but our own
      > obsessions, our aggressiveness, our ego-centered ambitions; Thomas Merton quoted
      > in Soul of a Citizen by Paul Rogat Loeb
      >
      > Nan Hildreth, Houston 713-842-6643
      > 3939 Luca St., Houston, Tx 77021
      >
      > If we attempt to ... do things ... for the world without deepening our own
      > self-understanding, ... freedom, integrity, and capacity to love, we will not have
      > anything to give to others. We will communicate nothing but our own obsessions, our
      > aggressiveness, our ego-centered ambitions; Thomas Merton quoted in Soul of a
      > Citizen by Paul Rogat Loeb
      >
      >
      >
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