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Re: [hreg] Comment on movie - Who Killed the Electric Car?

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  • Paul Archer
    ... Too true. One advantage of capacitors is that they can charge (and discharge!) pretty much as quickly as the external components will allow. I used to work
    Message 1 of 7 , Jul 23, 2006
      9:08am, Bashir Syed wrote:

      > You are right. During 2001 and 2003, our group (NASA/SR&QA Advanced
      > Technology in which I played a major role (because we had the Contract),
      > along with Prarieview Texas A&M University, and JPL. We performed tests on
      > these "Super Capacitors" involving High Energy Protons (1 MeV), Gama rays,
      > and Neutrons, and published two joint papers in IEEE's Nuclear
      > Transactions. Indeed these Capacitors, which have capacitance in FARADS
      > rather than micro-farads, are a storehouse for energy.

      > We had to be extremely careful to discharge them through a load thoroughly
      > before ever touching them.

      Too true. One advantage of capacitors is that they can charge (and
      discharge!) pretty much as quickly as the external components will allow.
      I used to work on studio flash units, and it was the most
      (potentially--pun intended) dangerous job I ever had.

      > A lot of research is in progress to invent new Energy Storage devices
      > rather than use Lead or Cadmium (both highly toxic elements) to protect
      > environment.

      > The last statement "capacitors last indefinitely," is not correct, because
      > there are many factors which can cause them to fail. There is no such
      > thing which has an unlimited life.

      True. I simply meant that they don't have a relatively fixed lifespan, like
      most batteries. If you had them in an electric car, you'd probably count on
      replacing them at some point, but you probably wouldn't have to plan on them
      going bad after three years.

      > A lot of work is also going on in Europe and Japan on such devices.

      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Paul Archer
      > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:27 AM
      > Subject: Re: [hreg] Comment on movie - Who Killed the Electric Car?
      > Actually, a more likely technology (than traditional batteries or cold
      > fusion) is super capacitors. Scientists at MIT are working on improving
      > capacitors by using nanotubes to increase internal surface area. Super
      > capacitors could end up with the same (or better) storage capacity as
      > batteries, would be cheaper to make, lighter, and better for the
      > environment--both because they don't use toxic chemicals, and because
      > capacitors last indefinitely.
      > http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?type=article&article_id=218392803
      > Paul Archer
      > 6:51am, Edward Kramer wrote:
      > > Did anyone see on the news yesterday that Tesla cars, (Silicon valleey) rolled out their new product line of electric vehicles-Lithium batteries and a cruise range of 240 miles -only catch they cost 100,000.00. Environmental responsibility is still for the super rich. Has anyone looked into the "cold fusion" process and what the potential can hold for the future?
      > >
      > > Ed Kramer
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: chasmauch@...
      > > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com ; houstonpeakoil@...
      > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:26 PM
      > > Subject: [hreg] Comment on movie - Who Killed the Electric Car?
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I just saw the movie this evening at Greenway in Houston. It is EXCELLENT! Gives a detailed history of electric cars (there were more electrics than gasoline driven in the early days), with lots of data about plug-ins, hybrids, wind, solar, and just about all aspects of energy in transportation and the environment. Anyone with interest in these subjects should see this film.
      > > Charlie
      > >
      > >
      > ----------------------------------------------------------
      > Actual listing in the TV section of the Marin (CA) Independent-Journal:
      > Movie "The Wizard of Oz": Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl
      > kills the first woman she meets, then teams up with three complete strangers
      > to kill again.
      > ----------------------------------------------------------

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