RE: [hreg] Still more on the solar house
- I was in agreement with Kevin until I read Charles latest note below. E.g.
I had an
uneasy feeling about the proposal, in that it appeared self-serving (not
that it wouldn't
help others, but certainly would be of greatest benefit to Charles) and
the professionals in our group feel taken advantage of, which I certainly
to see since they are such terrific resources for all of us (though
hopefully we provide
something of value to them in return).
However, I like the way Charles puts it below. The idea of working
collectively to put
together a catalog of all the best ideas for the Houston area, and
incorporating that into
a house design, seems to me like a fun idea we could all contribute to. Do
it as a group
exercise, without Charles' needs specifically in mind, but then he or anyone
else can build
it later if desired, or use elements of the design. I'd propose that our
help in the process, but that when it comes to the stage of actually drawing
up plans, and
then later, actually building one, we pay them for professional services
encouraging our professional members to work together on the project as a
team, or making
them bid on it, for fairness (e.g., not to discriminate any one particular
member in our group). I'm thinking mostly here of architects. Taking it to
and/or building stages would depend, of course, upon obtaining funding.
If the first stage was a catalog of ideas, e.g., giving various options for
each element of
the structure, such as papercrete, adobe, strawbale, aerated concrete,
faswall, etc., for
the walls, another list for the windows, another list for the roof, cooling
and giving pros/cons specifically for the Houston area (with references),
that would be a
terrific resource. If this were done as part of our website, it could be a
that evolves with time.
My 2 cents...
From: ChasMauch@... [mailto:ChasMauch@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:11 AM
Subject: [hreg] Still more on the solar house
Thanks for all the feedback so far, most positive. However, I was a little
disturbed by several of Kevin's comments.
For one, I was not aware that award winning solar demonstration homes have
been build in Houston (or that Mike has a solar home). If that is the case,
why couldn't we have a solar home show here? I thought we discussed that
but decided that there wern't any such homes available and you have to go to
Austin for that kind of thing. Would like to know where these homes are so I
could go see them.
Also the comment that I am expecting the professional members of the HREG to
contribute their time and expertise, basically asking them to work for free,
and that will not be well received, it will be up to me to make this happen,
my will, money, etc. It was never my intent to ask anyone to do anything
they are not willing and even anxious to do out of pure interest in the
project and promoting HREG and solar in general in the Houston area.
Obviously I would pay for the house, using any discounts, grants, or other
help that I can find, but would not ask for help from anyone who feels they
need to be paid for just talking about such a project, since I thought that
was what HREG was all about. Maybe I'm confused on this.
But I do appreciate all the comments so far, and am serious about the whole
thing. Oral's suggestion that we might find some funding to help out with it
sounds interesting. Let's look at it this way. If we did research on an
absolutely state of the art house of the future - not only energy efficient
but healthy (filtered air to remove pollen and Houston's infamous pollution,
clean water - carbon bed, reverse osmosis, etc) and made it as nice yet as
economical as possible, and then actually built it, then maybe more people
would build such houses too. I think that is an interesting project in
itself, and probably there is lots of literature available that some of our
members know about. Then I might be the first to build such a house, which
would be a benefit to me, but hopefully everyone would enjoy being involved.
Then again I might decide for one reason or another I don't want to do it
after all - which I would need to reserve the right to do, but it would not
have been a waste. At least, I don't think it would be.
Anyway, would like to continue the discussion here and see what kind of
consensus we can come to, if any. Hope everyone will contribute to the