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Re: [hreg] Fiinanical Incentives for renewables & conservation

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  • Jim & Janet
    If you hire a qualified (and informed) installer/contractor to do the work (windows, insulation, hvac etc) your IOUs, Reliant, TXU et al must pay the
    Message 1 of 8 , May 2, 2005
      If you hire a qualified (and informed) installer/contractor to do the work (windows, insulation, hvac etc) your IOUs, Reliant, TXU et al must pay the contractor a bonus for the installation. The end credit goes to the utility. Require them to share that discount with you.
      Jim Duncan
      Fort Worth
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:29 AM
      Subject: [hreg] Fiinanical Incentives for renewables & conservation

      Can anyone please refer me to where I might get list of financial
      incentives for Houston, Harris county, Texas and Federal for
      installation of energy conservation items.

      I have see that Austin has a number of incentives, but have not been
      able to locate similar incentives from Houston, Harris County, State of
      Texas or Federal programs.

      >
    • Roxanne Boyer
      The energy bill is dragging on because it has too much stuff in it. It needs to be broken into parts, but that s not the way our system works. I was told in
      Message 2 of 8 , May 3, 2005
        The energy bill is dragging on because it has too much stuff in it.  It needs to be broken into parts, but that's not the way our system works.  I was told in High School Government class that the law making process was intentionally made slow and inefficient to prevent radical change - I see that.  Some of the major parts of the Bill that are in the limelight are:
         
        1)  Energy Production Tax Incentives - This means if you drill and produce oil on your land, you get a tax incentive - sort of like an agricultural incentive for farmers.  This is supposed to improves the economics for "marginal" wells - wells that may produce only a couple of barrels per day at a cost of ~$25/barrel.  It will put money into the hands of several mineral rights holding companies and domestic drilling companies, rather than into the hands of foreigners.  In my opinion, this part of the bill wastes our money trying to maintain a dying system.  It would be better to tax foreign oil and invest the money in the development of a new, sustainable energy infrastructure 
         
        2)  Renewable Fuels Subsidy - This part will pay some money for putting ethanol or biodiesel into fuels.  It is supposed to help Midwest corn farmers increase their market.  It may do some good in getting the biofuels infrastructure in place so that costs will drop and eventually the program will not need subsidizing.
         
        3)  Clean Coal Technology -  The US has more coal energy than it has oil or natural gas.  We could shift more of our energy usage to coal.  Coal is dirty and very polluting.  Technology exists that can clean up the coal exhaust, however, it is not economical.  So, like the renewable fuels subsidy, this part will also subsidize power produced from "clean" coal.  What this bill also does is allows polluting plants to continue to be built and operated.  Mercury from coal power plants has contaminated most Texas rivers and the gulf coast so that it is a health hazard to eat fish from the area.  The bill is a start, however, we need to stop polluting!
         
        4)  MTBE Producers Protection - The government mandated that MTBE be put into fuel (Clean Air Act).  Now it has been determined that MTBE can mix with groundwater and it tastes bad (no bad health effects have been discovered).  Lawyers want to get rich suing MTBE manufacturers - a repeat of the asbestos cases.  Companies that produced MTBE want protection from such lawyers.  In my opinion, the companies only did what the government told them to do; no one will get a dime except the lawyers; and it will only hurt American companies, resulting in job layoffs.  Companies who manufactured MTBE (which is just about every American oil and chemical company) should not be penalized for it.   Even more, MTBE did do a great deal to clean up our air and we will have to find something to replace it.
         
        5)  Permission to drill in national wilderness preserves - Oil has been found in some federal lands that prohibit drilling.  Why have preserves if we aren't going to preserve them?
         
        What the bill does not contain is a long term energy plan.  It is a short-term hold-out, sort of like taking out one loan to pay another.  We do need energy solutions.  I think individuals, communities and companies will find them long before the government can do anything about it.  HREG is a start.
         
        Regards,
        Chris
         
         

        jsbalkite <jsbalkite@...> wrote:
        Hi, I'm James - new to the group. I work for United Space Alliance
        (NASA contractor) and I promote Green Mountain Energy (pollution-free
        residential/commercial energy) on the side. If you're interested in
        learning more I'd be more than happy to assist. Disclaimer - I get a
        commission for people that switch (free for you) to our pollution-
        free, renewable energy.

        I'm writing because I'm really disapointed with the President's
        energy policy. I'm even more depressed about the bill that passed the
        House which made Bush look like a tree-hugger.

        To get to my point, I'm looking for any good, factual (non-editorial)
        analyses of the proposed policies. I need to write an economic impact
        paper for this macroeconomic class and my professor is quite the free-
        market conservative who doesn't really care for environmentalists. So
        I need numbers.

        By the way, where's the outrage on this board regarding these
        policies catering to the status-quo, non-renewable energy production
        and practically ignoring conservation and our crack-like addiction to
        [foreign] oil?



      • jsbalkite
        Thanks, Chris. Here s the link to the House version: http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/energy_pdfs_2.htm Raise the CAFE standards! Or not:
        Message 3 of 8 , May 3, 2005
          Thanks, Chris. Here's the link to the House version:

          http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/energy_pdfs_2.htm

          Raise the CAFE standards! Or not:
          http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/house_energy_co.html



          --- In hreg@yahoogroups.com, Roxanne Boyer <chris.rox@s...> wrote:
          > The energy bill is dragging on because it has too much stuff in
          it. It needs to be broken into parts, but that's not the way our
          system works. I was told in High School Government class that the
          law making process was intentionally made slow and inefficient to
          prevent radical change - I see that. Some of the major parts of the
          Bill that are in the limelight are:
          >
          > 1) Energy Production Tax Incentives - This means if you drill and
          produce oil on your land, you get a tax incentive - sort of like an
          agricultural incentive for farmers. This is supposed to improves the
          economics for "marginal" wells - wells that may produce only a couple
          of barrels per day at a cost of ~$25/barrel. It will put money into
          the hands of several mineral rights holding companies and domestic
          drilling companies, rather than into the hands of foreigners. In my
          opinion, this part of the bill wastes our money trying to maintain a
          dying system. It would be better to tax foreign oil and invest the
          money in the development of a new, sustainable energy infrastructure
          >
          > 2) Renewable Fuels Subsidy - This part will pay some money for
          putting ethanol or biodiesel into fuels. It is supposed to help
          Midwest corn farmers increase their market. It may do some good in
          getting the biofuels infrastructure in place so that costs will drop
          and eventually the program will not need subsidizing.
          >
          > 3) Clean Coal Technology - The US has more coal energy than it
          has oil or natural gas. We could shift more of our energy usage to
          coal. Coal is dirty and very polluting. Technology exists that can
          clean up the coal exhaust, however, it is not economical. So, like
          the renewable fuels subsidy, this part will also subsidize power
          produced from "clean" coal. What this bill also does is allows
          polluting plants to continue to be built and operated. Mercury from
          coal power plants has contaminated most Texas rivers and the gulf
          coast so that it is a health hazard to eat fish from the area. The
          bill is a start, however, we need to stop polluting!
          >
          > 4) MTBE Producers Protection - The government mandated that MTBE
          be put into fuel (Clean Air Act). Now it has been determined that
          MTBE can mix with groundwater and it tastes bad (no bad health
          effects have been discovered). Lawyers want to get rich suing MTBE
          manufacturers - a repeat of the asbestos cases. Companies that
          produced MTBE want protection from such lawyers. In my opinion, the
          companies only did what the government told them to do; no one will
          get a dime except the lawyers; and it will only hurt American
          companies, resulting in job layoffs. Companies who manufactured MTBE
          (which is just about every American oil and chemical company) should
          not be penalized for it. Even more, MTBE did do a great deal to
          clean up our air and we will have to find something to replace it.
          >
          > 5) Permission to drill in national wilderness preserves - Oil has
          been found in some federal lands that prohibit drilling. Why have
          preserves if we aren't going to preserve them?
          >
          > What the bill does not contain is a long term energy plan. It is a
          short-term hold-out, sort of like taking out one loan to pay
          another. We do need energy solutions. I think individuals,
          communities and companies will find them long before the government
          can do anything about it. HREG is a start.
          >
          > Regards,
          > Chris
          >
          >
          >
          > jsbalkite <jsbalkite@s...> wrote:
          > Hi, I'm James - new to the group. I work for United Space Alliance
          > (NASA contractor) and I promote Green Mountain Energy (pollution-
          free
          > residential/commercial energy) on the side. If you're interested in
          > learning more I'd be more than happy to assist. Disclaimer - I get
          a
          > commission for people that switch (free for you) to our pollution-
          > free, renewable energy.
          >
          > I'm writing because I'm really disapointed with the President's
          > energy policy. I'm even more depressed about the bill that passed
          the
          > House which made Bush look like a tree-hugger.
          >
          > To get to my point, I'm looking for any good, factual (non-
          editorial)
          > analyses of the proposed policies. I need to write an economic
          impact
          > paper for this macroeconomic class and my professor is quite the
          free-
          > market conservative who doesn't really care for environmentalists.
          So
          > I need numbers.
          >
          > By the way, where's the outrage on this board regarding these
          > policies catering to the status-quo, non-renewable energy
          production
          > and practically ignoring conservation and our crack-like addiction
          to
          > [foreign] oil?
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
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