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  • William & Cynthia Stange
    Jun 7, 2010
      http://www.better place.com/     This is a interesting site!
       I hope I am not stealing someone elses thunder here, I seem to have forgotten whether the link was from Hreg or facebook. Anyhow this is partly the way I see the future start to look. I know, I know, the old saying of " it will take decades to change the way we drive!" Well , not exactly take for instance the internet. As a civilization it did not take too long for that to be coordinated into everything we know, now our phones even log on! Extended Wi-Fi !! So electric vehicles (EV'S) do not have to be 20 years away, 5-10 ton electric hybris trucks are already rolling out in Florida and being sent overseas. Uh, Duh? Keep the pressure on , keep brain-storming and we'll get this thing right at last!!! Teamsters can learn to operate high-speed trains, hybrid semis. We can figure this out, we HAVE to figure this out. As always thank you Tyra, please keep us in the loop with legal parameters and info that you collect. Re- invent ourselves we deserve it.
       Bill Stange

      From: Tyra Rankin <tyra@...>
      To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 10:40:46 AM
      Subject: RE: [hreg] Solar Resrve




      Great comments all; I completely support the visionary thinking. 


      I want to apologize to the group for expressing my horror at the spill in such a loud way on this forum.  My father and brother both have life long careers as petroleum engineers in drilling.  It’s not my expertise.  My brother returned this week from his drilling work in Nigeria and I had a long technical conversation with him and his colleague from Britain about the spill.  What I learned is the extreme complexity of drilling systems.  In BP’s case there were issues in so many areas, starting with well design.  One of the main things I took away was how much decision making on rigs is left to a very few people, who are guided almost entirely by corporate incentives.  Get it done. Get it done quickly; time is money.  So, so many steps were left out in BP’s drilling process, far before the BOP came into play.  The BOP is the tool of very last resort.  BP’s had multiple failures, some of which were known well in advance of the blow out; should have been remedied when discovered but were not.


      My brother and his colleague discussed the division of MMS into 3 separate agencies, enforcement, royalties and regulation – this was done in England years ago after a large North Sea blow out there.


      They described how the 6 month moratorium on drilling will move rigs overseas.  Job losses in the gulf could be as high as 30,000 or 50,000 at a time when jobs are desperately needed.  Ultimately, changes implemented will lead to more jobs, more regulation and different ways of doing oil and gas business.  But in the meantime, those in the industry and this region will suffer greatly. 


      What I struggle with is change.  As someone working to bring change in the form of new and renewable energy supplies, I’m frequently extremely frustrated by the slowness and resistance of those who don’t want change.  How do we get folks to be more willing to embrace change, corporations, governments, people without having to suffer such horrible catastrophe?   There are many who believe that the effects of climate change will bring similar environmental and economic catastrophic upheaval.  How do we build in incentives and change agents in a timely and more comfortable way without having to destroy ourselves and our environments in the process? 



      From: hreg@yahoogroups. com [mailto: hreg@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of William & Cynthia Stange
      Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 8:33 AM
      To: hreg@yahoogroups. com
      Subject: Re: [hreg] Solar Resrve



      If that is the case, and it's a good one. Peak and the larger percent of usage is to cool our homes,no? If we as a nation built homes to be ten-times more efficient at resisting the heat load THAT electricity could be used somewhere else as a "swap" of peak usage/storage combination to "charge" or shore up EV's? Taking into consideration that electric rail use ( both public transpo and transport of goods) could be utilized as well. Just thinking a what the future could look like. Since energy will become quite a lot more expensive to build, feed with fossil fuel to keep up with increasing loads, it seems that the most logical solution is to super-double down the way we build and live in our homes. Being absolutely more specific of environmental regions. As ours is hot and humid, with flooding likely from time to time, and a drought thrown in every couple of years? Hmmm... Design concepts are begining to get more complicated!
      LaVerne? Instead of concrete slab foundations we should have used bright white concrete roof structures instead, we're upside down!!
      Thank you for the interesting emails all of you.

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