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  • Randy Scott
    Jan 23, 2009
      The "free market" is a hoax.



      --- In hreg@yahoogroups.com, Jack Wagner <johnjackwagner2@...> wrote:
      >
      > Randy wrote:
      >
      > The role of governmentis to allow us, as a community, to do
      together
      > what one or a few of us cannot do alone.
      >
      >
      > There are many people on the left, right (and down the middle) who
      are suspicious of the role of government based on past actions. For a
      great read on the historical role of government, see Howard
      > Zinn's "A Power Governments Cannot Suppress." For those with a more
      free-market leaning, Ron Paul's "The Revolution: A Manifesto" will do
      nicely. Either way, as much as we might wish the government could
      undo the damage caused by the financial con game of recent decades,
      the free market will ultimately rule and correct the situation
      regardless of government stimulation.
      >
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: Randy Scott <redscott77092@...>
      > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:47:43 AM
      > Subject: [hreg] Re: Only government' can solve nation's ills
      >
      >
      > The role of government is to allow us, as a community, to do
      together
      > what one or a few of us cannot do alone.
      > Bush became famous for his rhetoric of "I'm a uniter, not a
      divider."
      > It's neccessary to push a stupidly simple slogan when you're not
      > doing anything else constructive.
      > 'Bama's message is more subtle and indicates a genuine call for the
      > entire nation to work together for a common goal....I hope.
      >
      > I think we could capitalize on this IF we can get past the
      invisible
      > force field that politicians surround themselves with.
      >
      > I've been actively looking for opportunities to get out of the
      > oilfield machinery industry and into a "green collar job". More and
      > more lately it's become fashionable to talk of a "new economy" of
      > sustainability, even if it only means corporate news media giving a
      > mouthpiece for corporate green-washing promises of how green the
      > future is going to be after corporate executives pocket another
      > government handout or after someone magically invents a new battery
      > that will make the Chevy Volt economically viable.
      >
      > It's possible that honest efforts to create green jobs may ride in
      on
      > the rising tide that becomes possible as "new green economy"
      rhetoric
      > becomes more mainstream. For a while, at least, the status quo
      > conservatives will continue the cry about "socialism" and "nanny
      > state" but dinosaur ideologies are fading away gradually as real
      > world neccessity forces people to look at reality.
      >
      > --- In hreg@yahoogroups. com, Solar Energy <WhySolar@ .> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > What does this declaration by Obama mean? Can we capitalize on
      > this offer?
      > >
      > > Ahmad
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Obama: 'Only government'
      > > can solve nation's ills
      > >
      > > By Tom Shoop tshoop@
      > > January 8, 2009
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > In a major address on Thursday in which he unveiled his economic
      > stimulus plan,
      > > President-elect Obama made the case for a dramatic increase in
      the
      > role of
      > > government, along with key initiatives that would affect the
      > federal workplace
      > > -- including a proposal to upgrade 75 percent of federal
      buildings
      > to make them
      > > more energy efficient.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > "It is true that we cannot depend on government alone to create
      > jobs or
      > > long-term growth, but at this particular moment, only government
      > can provide
      > > the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this
      > deep and
      > > severe," Obama said in a
      > > speech at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. "Only
      government
      > can
      > > break the vicious cycles that are crippling our economy -- where
      a
      > lack of
      > > spending leads to lost jobs which leads to even less spending;
      > where an
      > > inability to lend and borrow stops growth and leads to even less
      > credit."
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Specifically, Obama proposed to double the production of
      > alternative energy
      > > within three years; to upgrade classrooms and laboratories at
      tens
      > of thousands
      > > of educational institutions across the country, to launch
      > infrastructure repair
      > > projects to upgrade bridges, roads and schools; and to expand
      > broadband access
      > > nationwide.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Obama also pledged to "modernize more than 75 percent of federal
      > > buildings" to increase energy efficiency. In a December address,
      > Obama said, "We need to upgrade our
      > > federal buildings by replacing old heating systems and installing
      > efficient
      > > light bulbs."
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Obama insisted on Thursday that his proposal was "not just
      another
      > public
      > > works program." Under the plan, he said, "the overwhelming
      majority
      > > of the jobs created will be in the private sector." He added that
      > the
      > > proposal would "save the public sector jobs of teachers, cops,
      > > firefighters and others who provide vital services."
      > >
      > > "Our goal is not to create a slew of new government programs,"
      Obama
      > > said, "but a foundation for long-term economic growth."
      > >
      >
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