8434Re: [hreg] Re: Only government' can solve nation's ills
- Jan 11, 2009Hi:
Here is a small list of green job search sites; not as good as i might like, but it is a definite start.....
Career Cast"your job search portal" http://www.careercast.com/jobs Careers in Wind http://www.careersinwind.com/ Dream Job in Solar http://www.ongrid.net/dreamjobresources.html EcoEmploy http://www.ecoemploy.com/jobs Green Dream Jobs http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/jobs Green Jobs http://www.greenjobs.com/public/index.aspx GreenCareers from Monster http://green-jobs.monstertrak.com/ GreenJobs from Treehugger http://jobs.treehugger.com/ Grist Jobs http://jobs.grist.org/ Indeed.com - one search, all jobs http://www.indeed.com/ PV People Employment http://www.pvpeople.net Renewable Energy Job Search http://renewable.careers.adicio.com/careers/jobsearch/ Solar Staffing http://www.solarstaffing.com/?gclid=CILy7PDyhpgCFQUWGgod0G4PDA
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Subject: Re: [hreg] Re: Only government' can solve nation's ills
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:23:27 EST
This is a very good statement - well said. I agree with just about all of it.As for the wish to get out of the oil patch and into a "green" line of work - I had the same problem. I worked as a petroleum engineer with Sun Oil Company for almost 30 years - always wanting to get into a greener line of work but never could figure out how or what. Finally took early retirement at age 55 - they were downsizing and offered a very generous severance package as incentive so was able to take a few months to look around. I finally went to work for the City of Houston as an environmental engineer. They hired me even though I had no experience or credentials in that field to speak of. They were glad to have an engineer and a PE (very few engineers consider government work, assuming it is underpaid, boring, and non-productive but this was not) - they said don't worry - we will train you, which they did.The salary was only about 2/3 of what I had before but by the time I retired from the city 9 years later I was supervising 5 other engineers and making almost as much as I made before. Was also eligible for a small retirement pension that has come in very handy for my retirement. I did SIP inspections of various plants, shops, and other businesses to verify that they were in compliance with regulations and the provisions of their permits, keeping proper records, etc. It was interesting and (in my opinion) useful work, helping keep the world green.I suggest more people try to work for the city or state. You won't get rich but could feel better about the work. But no use trying Austin - it's considered a great place to live and everyone wants to work there so they pay less than others and have a long waiting list of highly qualified people (even some PhDs) but Houston was eager for such people - or at least they were a few years ago. Anyway you might think about that possibility.Charles MauchIn a message dated 1/11/2009 11:48:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, redscott77092@ yahoo.com writes:
The role of government is to allow us, as a community, to do together
what one or a few of us cannot do alone.
Bush became famous for his rhetoric of "I'm a uniter, not a divider."
It's neccessary to push a stupidly simple slogan when you're not
doing anything else constructive.
'Bama's message is more subtle and indicates a genuine call for the
entire nation to work together for a common goal....I hope.
I think we could capitalize on this IF we can get past the invisible
force field that politicians surround themselves with.
I've been actively looking for opportunities to get out of the
oilfield machinery industry and into a "green collar job". More and
more lately it's become fashionable to talk of a "new economy" of
sustainability, even if it only means corporate news media giving a
mouthpiece for corporate green-washing promises of how green the
future is going to be after corporate executives pocket another
government handout or after someone magically invents a new battery
that will make the Chevy Volt economically viable.
It's possible that honest efforts to create green jobs may ride in on
the rising tide that becomes possible as "new green economy" rhetoric
becomes more mainstream. For a while, at least, the status quo
conservatives will continue the cry about "socialism" and "nanny
state" but dinosaur ideologies are fading away gradually as real
world neccessity forces people to look at reality.
--- In hreg@yahoogroups. com, Solar Energy <WhySolar@.. .> wrote:
> What does this declaration by Obama mean? Can we capitalize on
> Obama: 'Only government'
> can solve nation's ills
> By Tom Shoop tshoop@...
> January 8, 2009
> In a major address on Thursday in which he unveiled his economic
> President-elect Obama made the case for a dramatic increase in the
> government, along with key initiatives that would affect the
> -- including a proposal to upgrade 75 percent of federal buildings
to make them
> more energy efficient.
> "It is true that we cannot depend on government alone to create
> long-term growth, but at this particular moment, only government
> the short-term boost necessary to lift us from a recession this
> severe," Obama said in a
> speech at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. "Only government
> break the vicious cycles that are crippling our economy -- where a
> spending leads to lost jobs which leads to even less spending;
> inability to lend and borrow stops growth and leads to even less
> Specifically, Obama proposed to double the production of
> within three years; to upgrade classrooms and laboratories at tens
> of educational institutions across the country, to launch
> projects to upgrade bridges, roads and schools; and to expand
> Obama also pledged to "modernize more than 75 percent of federal
> buildings" to increase energy efficiency. In a December address,
Obama said, "We need to upgrade our
> federal buildings by replacing old heating systems and installing
> light bulbs."
> Obama insisted on Thursday that his proposal was "not just another
> works program." Under the plan, he said, "the overwhelming majority
> of the jobs created will be in the private sector." He added that
> proposal would "save the public sector jobs of teachers, cops,
> firefighters and others who provide vital services."
> "Our goal is not to create a slew of new government programs," Obama
> said, "but a foundation for long-term economic growth."
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