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3574RE: [hreg] Re: HREG Goals

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  • J. P. Malone
    Jan 3, 2006
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      During World War II in the Philippines either the Japanese or private Filipinos developed a reactor that worked very similar, or just like, this.  Gasoline was in such short supply that private automobile travel was virtually forbidden in the last year or so of the war, so everyone had to use animal-driven transports or public transportation, i.e. busses.  All (as far as I know) busses in the Philippines were then fitted out with reactor engines that could be fueled by a variety of organic matter, but coconut shells (abundant in the Philippines) were found to produce the best result.  The technology of the time resulted in very underpowered busses that sometimes required the passengers to get off so the bus could get to the top of a hill, but nonetheless it worked and public transportation in the Philippines ran for several years without gasoline, as I understand it.  But I suspect that these engines put out a certain amount of pollutants.

       

      J. Patrick Malone

       


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      Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:07 AM
      To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [hreg] Re: HREG Goals

       

       

      I had a friend (now deceased) who was in World War II and he told me that toward the end of the war the Germans were basically out of gasoline, so they came up with an alternative that was not great but seemed to work. Some of their vehicles had a vessel mounted on the rear that served as a kind of reactor. It was a form of pyrolysis that created a mixture of combustible gases including H2, CO, CO2, CH4, plus water vapor and others. It worked on biomass of any kind - you could pull up grass by the side of the road, twigs, or anything organic to put in the reactor.

       

      I had forgotten about it until discussions on this list, peak oil etc brought up some various energy sources, and I did a quick google on pyrolysis. Apparently there are quite a few companies working on this technology, primarily in Europe with the Brits and the Germans. It also generates a liquid fuel of some sort, some sludge, tar, and other byproducts. A good basic description of the process with diagrams of reactor products, equipment, etc can be found at the website of a company named Biomass Technology Group at 

      http://www.btgworld.com/technologies/pyrolysis.html . I'm sure there are quite a few others.

       

      Is anyone familiar with this process, how close it is to being economical, what companies are doing it (possible speculative investment) and so on? Might it be of interest to us? 

       

      Charlie

       


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