[hr100] Re: Fwd: Another Rookie's Question
- Hi Bill Rideg and All,
Below is an description that Matt Mahoney wrote about the last 25 miles of
the Hardrock course. As one of the course designers, I request that you
all disregard what Matt has to say because it's filled with vicious lies
about Hardrock, God, and country. The following few paragraphs should
clarify the true situation at Hardrock. We will probably replace the
course description with this text.
Hardrock Course Description, Counter Clockwise Direction, Telluride to
By: Charles T. Thorn, esq.
"At the Telluride aid station, you should go south up a long valley for a
long way. When you get to really deep snow, go sharply down hill for 2.7
miles and make sure you find the Chapman aid station. You might take a nap
there. From Chapman, go south up a long valley for a long way. When you
get to an impossible scree slope, climb it and then go down another
impossible scree slope, keeping to the east of a beautiful lake with an
island in the middle. Try not to set off any rock slides or avalanches in
the scree. The punch is located on the island but we do not tell you
exactly where because it's a small island. Also, reflective markers have
not been found to stand up well in the waters of this particular lake.
Then go down hill a long way, cross a deep creek without being washed over
the falls and traverse along a grassy cliff to the next aid station. If
you fall off the grassy cliff, please do not take aid at the South Mineral
Campground because you will be DQ'ed. Also, climb back up to the official
route before proceeding."
"From KT aid station, cross another creek, immediately go across a deep mud
pit and find the switchbacks. Go to tree line and find the next set of
switchbacks. Then, there is no trail for a while in a grassy meadow and
reflective markers were deliberately removed before the run. Be very
carefull not to fall over the cliffs on your left and go cross country on
the tundra to climb up another 45 degree grassy slope. From the top of
that ridge the views are beautiful unless, of course it's night or too
foggy to see. From there, go south to the next saddle, then turn left and
make sure you find the obscure elk trail down the cliffs to the last aid
station. Oh yeah, make sure you yield the right of way to the elk because
they're protected out of season and they hate runners in all seasons.
Also, you will be DQ'ed if you take the mine tunnel shortcuts located in
"After you find the last aid station, it's really easy. Just go east to
the trees and find the trail down the long, straight Boulder creek drainage
to Mineral creek. Again, do not cause any unnecessary rock slides along
that section. Then get out your rubber ducky and cross Mineral creek and
the alligator swamp to the pavement. Usually there are representatives of
run management there who, like the elk, are protected out of season. Climb
up the short bank to the power line and old railroad track and go to
Silverton and find the finish after crossing some private property and
paying the 50 cent toll."
"This last 28 miles is scenic, easy to find, and should be the most
enjoyable part of the run."
>Subject: [hr100] Re: Another Rookie's Question
>--- "William E. Rideg" <wmez@...> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I would like to hear about the final 25
>It is hell. If it takes you 30 hours to get to
>Telluride (75 miles), expect it to take the remaining
>18 hours to finish.
>My biggest problem in '98 was that I could no longer
>think clearly on my second sleepless night, and kept
>getting lost. I lost an hour trying to find the trail
>up Grant-Swamp pass. On the other side it got dark
>and the markers were extremely difficult to find in
>the trackless tundra fields afterwards. I had to stop
>at each flag, and scan my flashlight to find the next
>one. I missed the turnoff from Ice Lake trail and
>descended a horrible 45-degree wooded slope guided
>only by the sound of the waterfall where I knew I had
>to cross. I found it, then missed the river crossing
>after the KT aid station by 1/4 mile, but a volunteer
>ran after me and turned me around. Finally after more
>scanning for flags on the 13,000 ft. plateau under a
>full moon and temps in the 20's at 2AM, I saw no more
>flags, and wandered aimlessly until sunrise, so I had
>a 51:38 DNF. I had no idea where I was even though I
>hiked exactly the same course a week earlier knowing
>full well that this would be the spot I would most
>likely get lost. It looks completely different in the
>-- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
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- --- "Charles T. Thorn" <thorn@...> wrote:
> As one of the courseYes, please disregard my previous post. Hardrock is a
> designers, I request that you
> all disregard what Matt has to say because it's
> filled with vicious lies
> about Hardrock, God, and country.
really easy course. It is so easy, that next year I
hear it will be renamed to Easyrock. Pay no attention
to rumors of mountains, rocks, altitude, snow, cliffs,
avalanches, etc. It is all lies. The course is
actually run on a rubberized track at the Silverton
high school, with aid and masseuses every lap, and if
you get too tired to run, volunteers will drive you
around the track on a golf cart while you sleep.
Of course its true that we reverse directions each
year. This year we'll be going counterclockwise. And
there will be flags every 10 feet along the inside of
lane 1 so you can't get lost. Starting blocks are
optional, and pacers are allowed after the second lap.
-- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
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