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Re: [hr100] patella femoral chondromalacia

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  • Chris Twiggs
    Quick survey of my wife/doctor on this issue: I would never tell someone with this (pretty common) condition that she is done running forever. Hardrock is out
    Message 1 of 5 , Mar 27, 2010
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      Quick survey of my wife/doctor on this issue: "I would never tell
      someone with this (pretty common) condition that she is done running
      forever. Hardrock is out of the question for now and she needs to get
      care from a good orthopedist before she does any running at all.
      Still, there is hope."

      Chris

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      On Mar 27, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Harry Bruell <hbruell@...> wrote:

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      > I have a
      > family member (female, late 30s, middle distance runner) who just
      > got diagnosed
      > with patella femoral chondromalacia. Her doctor told her she can
      > never
      > run again. Has anyone out there had this diagnosis? Does anyone
      > have any resources or suggestions? She lives in Northern New
      > Mexico; does
      > anyone have a doctor in Northern NM/Southern CO to suggest that would
      > understand a ‘runner’s perspective’ and look for alternative
      > solutions?
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      > Thanks
      > so much!
      >
      > Harry
      > Bruell
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    • kaitainen
      Knee pain, with a tentative similar diagnosis (they were contemplating exploratory surgery , etc.... was the end of my first two Hardrock attempts. I found
      Message 2 of 5 , Mar 27, 2010
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        Knee pain, with a tentative similar diagnosis (they were contemplating 'exploratory surgery', etc.... was the end of my first two Hardrock attempts.

        I found "the light", however, in SQUATS. Full, olympic style squats. PT didn't help, isolating quad exercises did not help. I had to do the balancing work of real honest to gawd bar-on-the-shoulder squats.

        Months of this 2-3x weekly and I am completely, utterly, run-capable.

        Here's where I found my info:
        http://www.stumptuous.com/learning-the-squat-1-debunking-the-myths

        Use & enjoy!!!

        Andrea

        --- In hr100@yahoogroups.com, Harry Bruell <hbruell@...> wrote:
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        > Hardrock
        > family,
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        >
        >
        > I have a
        > family member (female, late 30s, middle distance runner) who just got diagnosed
        > with patella femoral chondromalacia. Her doctor told her she can never
        > run again. Has anyone out there had this diagnosis? Does anyone
        > have any resources or suggestions? She lives in Northern New Mexico; does
        > anyone have a doctor in Northern NM/Southern CO to suggest that would
        > understand a `runner's perspective' and look for alternative solutions?
        >
        >
        >
        > Thanks
        > so much!
        >
        > Harry
        > Bruell
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      • Terry Gebhardt
        Hi Harry, Chondromalacia means pain behind the knee cap.  There may or may not be cartilage damage associated with this diagnosis.  There is plenty of good
        Message 3 of 5 , Mar 29, 2010
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          Hi Harry,

          Chondromalacia means pain behind the knee cap.  There may or may not be cartilage damage associated with this diagnosis.  There is plenty of good research that says strengthening specific hip muscles can significantly reduce symptoms.  I see a lot of patients/runners who have this (I am a physical therapist) and they always return to running.  Not running sounds ludicrous to me.  Someone with pain in the knees may need to modify her training, but she should still be able to return to running with the appropriate interventions.  Unfortunately, I do not know any PT in NM to send her to but I would have her look up a sports PT instead of an MD.  A PT will treat was is causing the pain (weak muscles, tight muscles, maybe do a running analysis), and should help her manage her symptoms so she can run.

          Let me know if you have further questions.
          Terry

          Terry Gebhardt, PT, DPT
          Colorado Physical Therapy Specialists
          www.ColPTs.com

          --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Harry Bruell <hbruell@...> wrote:

          From: Harry Bruell <hbruell@...>
          Subject: [hr100] patella femoral chondromalacia
          To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 11:07 AM




          Hardrock
          family,



          I have a
          family member (female, late 30s, middle distance runner) who just got diagnosed
          with patella femoral chondromalacia.  Her doctor told her she can never
          run again.  Has anyone out there had this diagnosis?  Does anyone
          have any resources or suggestions?  She lives in Northern New Mexico; does
          anyone have a doctor in Northern NM/Southern CO to suggest that would
          understand a ‘runner’s perspective’ and look for alternative solutions?



          Thanks
          so much!

          Harry
          Bruell


                                   

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        • Deb Pero
          Harry, About half the runners I know have this to some degree! I have femoral condyle corrosion, and was told 10 years ago that I had to stop running. Glad I
          Message 4 of 5 , Mar 29, 2010
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            Harry,

            About half the runners I know have this to some degree! I have femoral
            condyle corrosion, and was told 10 years ago that I had to stop running.
            Glad I didn't heed that advice!
            There was a guy in Los Alamos at the hospital, who was our primary care guy
            for the short time we were there, and I cannot remember his name, but he was
            very good.. he definitely was of the mindset to keep you going rather than
            shut you down.I wish I could remember his name! Maybe even call the
            hospital and ask.
            I believe he was military, maybe reserve or something, that might help.

            deb

            On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Harry Bruell <hbruell@...> wrote:

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            > Hardrock
            > family,
            >
            >
            >
            > I have a
            > family member (female, late 30s, middle distance runner) who just got
            > diagnosed
            > with patella femoral chondromalacia. Her doctor told her she can never
            > run again. Has anyone out there had this diagnosis? Does anyone
            > have any resources or suggestions? She lives in Northern New Mexico; does
            > anyone have a doctor in Northern NM/Southern CO to suggest that would
            > understand a �runner�s perspective� and look for alternative solutions?
            >
            >
            >
            > Thanks
            > so much!
            >
            > Harry
            > Bruell
            >
            >
            >
            >
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