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RE: [hr100] Nolan's 14 training runs

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  • Herr, Dennis B.
    I forgot to sign my name. Dennis Herr I should also add that, in the past, I have been as guilty of the game as anybody and have been one of what Gary
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      I forgot to sign my name. Dennis Herr

      I should also add that, in the past, I have been as guilty
      of the game as anybody and have been one of what Gary
      Cantrell calls the "swagger boys".

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      > From: Herr, Dennis B.
      > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:58 AM
      > To: svwriter@...; Fred Vance; Stephen Simmons; Jon MacManus;
      > Blake Wood; Charlie Thorn; Gordon Hardman; Jim Nolan; Joe Florio; Simon
      > and Kristin Shadowlight; Eric Robinson; Jefferson Wagener; Phil and Joyce
      > Wood; Ginny LaForme; ultra@...; 'hr100@egroups.com'
      > Subject: RE: [hr100] Nolan's 14 training runs
      >
      > I cannot believe how difficult this course is. It
      > makes Hardrock look like Vermont.
      > Fred Vance is right. Nobody is going to finish all 14
      > summits.
      >
      > This oneupsmanship game is really getting silly.
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      > From: Matt Mahoney[SMTP:matmahoney@...]
      > Reply To: hr100@egroups.com
      > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 10:59 PM
      > To: svwriter@...; Fred Vance; Stephen Simmons; Jon
      > MacManus; Blake Wood; Charlie Thorn; Gordon Hardman; Jim Nolan; Joe
      > Florio; Simon and Kristin Shadowlight; Eric Robinson; Jefferson Wagener;
      > Phil and Joyce Wood; Ginny LaForme; hr100@egroups.com;
      > ultra@...
      > Subject: [hr100] Nolan's 14 training runs
      >
      > 1. The Nolan's 14 training run on July 2 over
      > Belford, Oxford, Harvard, and Columbia will start 2
      > miles from the North Cottonwood trailhead, at the
      > national forest boundary, 1 mile after the road gets
      > really bad. This will save about 30 minutes of
      > driving. There is a parking area at the boundary. It
      > might be a good idea to camp there overnight before
      > the 5AM meeting. The July 1 run is unchanged. Go to
      > http://mahoney4.home.netcom.com/nolans for details.
      >
      > 2. I cannot believe how difficult this course is. It
      > makes Hardrock look like Vermont. On Saturday I hiked
      > from the Avalanche trailhead to Mt. Princeton, about 3
      > miles on the Colorado trail (easy), then south on an
      > old jeep road at 9600 ft (still easy) until the trail
      > ends at a clearing. Then 1500 ft. climb straight up a
      > hill at a 50% grade that reminded me of Barkley's Big
      > Hell, except for the thin air. At the top I found a
      > primitive trail that traverses the hillside at 11,600
      > ft for 1/4 mile then disappears, so I bushwacked
      > slightly downhill into the Maxwell creek drainage. 4
      > hours so far. I saw no way up to Princeton other than
      > a class 4 scramble up a 100% grade scree and talus
      > field up to about 13000 ft.
      >
      > On the ridge it started snowing. Strangely, I was not
      > cold even though I wore shorts and a t-shirt. There
      > was no trail, just huge boulders. I felt something
      > tickle my forearm arm, then again, and realize to my
      > horror that my hair was standing on end from static
      > charge and the rocks were buzzing and crackling.
      > There was no place to hide from the immenent lightning
      > strike, so I dropped about 20 feet below the ridge and
      > traversed huge snow covered boulders. The storm
      > stopped just below the summit and I reached it in 6
      > 1/2 hours. I took the normal trail down to the east.
      > The first 1000 feet descends at a 60-80% grade, like
      > Leonard's Butt Slide without the trees to hold onto.
      > Then the next mile is through talus, like Short
      > Mountain except the rocks are loose. Finally at
      > treeline you reach good trail, but I had about 15
      > miles to go back to my car. Total time 12 hours. As
      > horrible as my climb was, it was probably an hour
      > faster than going up the normal route.
      >
      > Sunday Carl, Barbara and I climbed Yale. Start at
      > 7:00 AM, up good trail, summit at 9:29 passing several
      > other hikers, down the east ridge to the CO trail and
      > back on 3 miles of road, finish at 1:20. I recommend
      > during Nolans to come down the south trail and road,
      > as our rate of descent down the east ridge was slower
      > than our climb. You are picking your way down steep
      > rocks down to treeline. You definitely will not run
      > it.
      >
      > Today I climbed Antero, 20 miles on jeep road in fog,
      > rain, snow, sleet, hail, and lightning, and an hour of
      > sunshine just in time for the summit. I saw several
      > other hikers but I don't think anyone else made it.
      > Total time 7 hours.
      >
      > Fred Vance is right. Nobody is going to finish all 14
      > summits.
      >
      >
      > =====
      > -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
      >
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