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    Extra gear is optional , but I strongly suggest at a minimum having gloves with you to prevent rope burns. Kris ... From: hr100@yahoogroups.com To:
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      Extra gear is optional , but I strongly suggest at a minimum having gloves
      with you to prevent rope burns. Kris

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      Sent: 29 May 2008 04:34:37 -0000
      Subject: [hr100] Digest Number 707

      > Hardrock 100
      >
      > Hardrock 100 Messages In This Digest (25 Messages) 1a.
      > specialized equipment From: Craig Slagel 1b. Re: specialized
      > equipment From: Dale Garland 1c. Re: specialized equipment From:
      > Fred Ecks 1d. Re: specialized equipment From: Andrea 1e. Re:
      > specialized equipment From: Dale Garland 1f. Re: specialized
      > equipment From: dlease@... 1g. Re: specialized
      > equipment From: Dale Garland 1h. Re: specialized equipment From:
      > Steve Pero 1i. Re: specialized equipment From: Dale Garland 1j.
      > Re: specialized equipment From: Rich Haefele 1k. Re:
      > specialized equipment From: Dale Garland 1l. Re: specialized
      > equipment From: Jennifer Roach 2a. rideshares, carpooling...
      > From: ahaebig@... 2b. Re: rideshares, carpooling... From:
      > Dale Garland 3a. HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Kelly Korevec 3b. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Dale Garland 3c. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Matt Mahoney 3d. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Dale Garland 3e. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Deb's Gmail 3f. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Dale Garland 3g. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Fred Ecks 3h. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Nardini Manor 3i. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Dale Garland 3j. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > Lois MacKenzie 3k. Re: HR lodging, camping near Silverton From:
      > The Troubadour View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages
      > 1a. specialized equipment Posted by: "Craig Slagel"
      > cslagel@... craigslagel Wed May 28, 2008 9:29 am (PDT)
      > I've been reading through the Manual and saw this
      >
      > "Feel free to include any specialized equipment such as ice
      > axes, crampons, snow shoes, or skis that you are willing to carry
      > between drop bag stations as part of your
      > paraphernalia."
      >
      > Do runners or is anyone planning on using any specialized equipment,
      > just wondering how much this can help or do you spend most the
      > time just lugging extra weight.
      >
      > Craig
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1b. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Dale Garland" hardrock100@...
      > Wed May 28, 2008 9:29 am (PDT) I am currently unavailable. I will
      > return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-2
      > times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1c. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Fred Ecks" fredx@... fredecks
      > Wed May 28, 2008 9:47 am (PDT) I'm wondering the same thing,
      > contemplating a lightweight ice ax. Do others use such things on
      > this course?
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > - Fred
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1d. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Andrea" andrea@... kaitainen
      > Wed May 28, 2008 10:03 am (PDT) Nope. Use plastic tent stakes -
      > nice and lightweight and good for an emergency. Also, learn to
      > glissade - its a great skill to have going down Grant-Swamp and
      > Virginius!
      >
      > Some people also just pick up a long pointy rock or stick on the
      > way up, and then discard it later. Really no need for an axe, though
      > that's my not-so-humble opinion.
      >
      > Andrea
      > (triple DNF'er and double finisher, for what it's worth)
      >
      > http://dukecityfood.com
      > "Whoever's approval you seek, imprisons you. Choose your jailer with
      > care and deliberation."
      > --Jamal Rahim
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1e. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Dale Garland" hardrock100@...
      > Wed May 28, 2008 10:03 am (PDT) I am currently unavailable. I
      > will return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-
      > 2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1f. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "dlease@..." dlease@...
      > damonmlease Wed May 28, 2008 10:55 am (PDT) I used a very
      > lightweight ice ax in 2004 and felt that it saved me time overall,
      > but not a huge amount of time. I only carried it for part of the
      > course, primarily from Telluride to Ouray, and I wish I'd had it
      > from KT to Chapman as well.
      >
      > But, the cost to carry a lightweight titanium axe is negligible,
      > and I used it on a number of glissades.
      >
      > Damon
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1g. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Dale Garland" hardrock100@...
      > Wed May 28, 2008 10:55 am (PDT) I am currently unavailable. I
      > will return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-
      > 2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1h. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Steve Pero" ultrastevep@...
      > ultrastevep Wed May 28, 2008 12:13 pm (PDT) Skis? Snowshoes?
      > Ha! My vote is no...when I first started doing Hardrock back in 2001,
      > I carried a ton of stuff (including a tent stake) and never used
      > anything but the extra clothing because we ran into storms that
      > year. Now I travel much lighter...I will though have some pants in
      > my Telluride drop bag to have with me for the guaranteed long
      > glissade down from Kroger's Canteen on Virginius.
      >
      > My list of stuff carried all the time is:
      > 2 bottle pack
      > short sleeve shirt
      > long sleeve shirt (heavier one at night)
      > shorts
      > Hat for sun
      > jacket
      > light (backup during the day, will pick up my nightime light at
      > Ouray) hiking certificate Some type of small runner's lube As i said
      > above, pants will be at Telluride and I'll keep them with me from
      > then on, probabaly tied around my waist like along with my jacket.
      >
      > I do not have or use a crew or pacer, so must be self sufficient
      > and have drop bags out there.
      >
      > See you all in 5 weeks!
      > Steve P.
      >
      > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Craig Slagel <cslagel@...> wrote:
      >
      > > I've been reading through the Manual and saw this
      > >
      > > "Feel free to include any specialized equipment such as ice
      > > axes, crampons, snow shoes, or skis that you are willing to carry
      > > between drop bag stations as part of your
      > > paraphernalia."
      > >
      > > Do runners or is anyone planning on using any specialized
      > equipment, > just wondering how much this can help or do you spend
      > most the time > just lugging extra weight. > > Craig >
      >
      > --
      > http://ultrastevep.blogspot.com/
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1i. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Dale Garland" hardrock100@...
      > Wed May 28, 2008 12:13 pm (PDT) I am currently unavailable. I
      > will return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-
      > 2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1j. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Rich Haefele" rh433@... rh433
      > Wed May 28, 2008 3:07 pm (PDT) after the 2005 run when I thought
      > there was a lot of snow on the course, I am thinking this year is
      > going to be very tough.
      >
      > You could carry that gear but then when you get down low you would
      > be labouring to carry the shoes or skis... I could see carrying
      > crampons if we were doing the route the other way...usually though
      > there are good steps cut. A better bet might be to carry poles.
      >
      > Then again scuba might be the way to go with as much water as there
      > is up there now.
      >
      > rich
      >
      >
      > Craig Slagel <cslagel@...> wrote:
      > I've been reading through the Manual and saw this
      >
      > "Feel free to include any specialized equipment such as ice
      > axes, crampons, snow shoes, or skis that you are willing to carry
      > between drop bag stations as part of your
      > paraphernalia."
      >
      > Do runners or is anyone planning on using any specialized equipment,
      > just wondering how much this can help or do you spend most the
      > time just lugging extra weight.
      >
      > Craig
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1k. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Dale Garland" hardrock100@...
      > Wed May 28, 2008 3:07 pm (PDT) I am currently unavailable. I will
      > return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-2
      > times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 1l. Re: specialized
      > equipment Posted by: "Jennifer Roach" jrhigh@... Wed
      > May 28, 2008 4:23 pm (PDT) I'm not running this year but a
      > suggestion for the hefty snowpack would be a good pair of traction
      > devices for running shoes, such as YaxTrax. Could keep one from
      > doing an involuntary glissade.
      >
      > Jennifer Roach
      > Boulder
      >
      > Steve Pero wrote:
      > >
      > > Skis? Snowshoes? Ha! My vote is no...when I first started doing Hardrock
      > > back in 2001, I carried a ton of stuff (including a tent stake)
      > and never > used anything but the extra clothing because we ran into
      > storms that year. > Now I travel much lighter...I will though have
      > some pants in my Telluride > drop bag to have with me for the
      > guaranteed long glissade down from > Kroger's > Canteen on
      > Virginius. > > My list of stuff carried all the time is: > 2 bottle pack
      > > short sleeve shirt
      > > long sleeve shirt (heavier one at night)
      > > shorts
      > > Hat for sun
      > > jacket
      > > light (backup during the day, will pick up my nightime light at
      > Ouray) > hiking certificate > Some type of small runner's lube > As
      > i said above, pants will be at Telluride and I'll keep them with me
      > > from > then on, probabaly tied around my waist like along with my jacket.
      > >
      > > I do not have or use a crew or pacer, so must be self sufficient
      > and have > drop bags out there. > > See you all in 5 weeks! > Steve
      > P. > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Craig Slagel
      > <cslagel@... > <mailto:cslagel%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > >
      > I've been reading through the Manual and saw this > > > > "Feel free
      > to include any specialized equipment such as ice > > axes, crampons,
      > snow shoes, or skis that you are willing to carry > > between drop
      > bag stations as part of your > > paraphernalia." > > > > Do runners
      > or is anyone planning on using any specialized equipment, > > just
      > wondering how much this can help or do you spend most the time > >
      > just lugging extra weight. > > > > Craig > > > > -- >
      > http://ultrastevep.blogspot.com/ <http://ultrastevep.blogspot.com/>
      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (12) 2a. rideshares,
      > carpooling... Posted by: "ahaebig@..." ahaebig@...
      > ann_queue Wed May 28, 2008 1:32 pm (PDT) Hi all,
      >
      > I'm Fred Ecks's sweetie. I'll be heading to Silverton on July 8 or
      > 9 to crew for him (assuming he makes it in off the waitlist). Our
      > friend Jeff will also be joining in the fun.
      >
      > Anyone wanna carpool? We haven't bought plane tickets yet so we're
      > open to flying into Denver or Albuquerque and renting a car, or
      > maybe even driving from the San Francisco bay area. Fred will have a
      > car in Silverton already, so we don't necessarily have to have the
      > car during the race. It'd be great to split the costs and share a
      > game of license plate bingo with one or two folks.
      >
      > cheers,
      >
      > -Ann
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (2) 2b. Re: rideshares,
      > carpooling... Posted by: "Dale Garland" hardrock100@...
      > Wed May 28, 2008 1:32 pm (PDT) I am currently unavailable. I
      > will return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-
      > 2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (2) 3a. HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Kelly Korevec"
      > korevec@... kkorevec Wed May 28, 2008 3:07 pm (PDT)
      > I'm looking for accommodations in the Silverton area for 7/02 - 7/14.
      >
      > I'm low-budget, and doing hardrock without a crew. I'm checking out
      > my options, and would very much appreciate any suggestions or help.
      >
      > Sharing lodging, camping near Silverton, couch surfing, sleeping on
      > the floor. I have a thermarest and can sleep almost anywhere. Any
      > type advice would help a great deal.
      >
      > Thanks guys!
      >
      > Kelly Patrick Korevec
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3b. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Dale Garland"
      > hardrock100@... Wed May 28, 2008 3:07 pm (PDT) I am
      > currently unavailable. I will return to the San Juans on June 6. I
      > will be checking e-mail 1-2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3c. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Matt Mahoney"
      > matmahoney@... matmahoney Wed May 28, 2008 3:30 pm
      > (PDT) --- Kelly Korevec <korevec@...> wrote:
      >
      > > I'm looking for accommodations in the Silverton area for 7/02 - 7/14.
      > >
      > > I'm low-budget, and doing hardrock without a crew. I'm checking
      > out my > options, and would very much appreciate any suggestions or help.
      >
      > There is free camping at South Mineral campground, 3 miles from
      > town (just off 550 toward Ouray). That is where I plan to stay. You
      > can also camp free around Grouse Gulch if you want more altitude training.
      >
      > With regard to gear, I don't plan to take an ice axe or crampons.
      > It is easier to find a pointy rock for the few times when you need
      > one. I will have long pants for the glissades since I don't
      like "frostbutt".
      >
      > -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3d. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Dale Garland"
      > hardrock100@... Wed May 28, 2008 3:30 pm (PDT) I am
      > currently unavailable. I will return to the San Juans on June 6. I
      > will be checking e-mail 1-2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3e. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Deb's Gmail"
      > mtnrunner02@... mtnrunner02 Wed May 28, 2008 4:28 pm
      > (PDT) Hi Kelly, Like Matt mentioned, there is free camping near
      > Mineral Creek... and many other places in the area. Near Grouse
      > Gulch is one. Most all the public land is open to camping. Some
      > areas near the ski hill below Kendall Mtn. Mineral Creek (there's
      > both a paid camping area and free spots along the river) will be a
      > zoo over the 4th of July... so you might want to wait until after
      > that to try to find a spot. In fact, everyplace will be a zoo over
      > the 4th. Low budget hotels are the Prospector, and maybe the
      > Outsider's Inn. There's an RV park, with cabins and tent sites in
      > town also. Showers there. I can't remember the name. Your best bet
      > for cheap lodging is probably the Silverton Hostel. It's very
      > inexpensive, with shared showers and a shared kitchentte.Many
      > places will already be full. Some people like to camp at Little
      > Molas Lake (10K) on the way to Durango.. not that far from
      > Silverton, but you'd need a car. Higher elevations might still have
      > snow. Be aware if camping that nights can get down into the 20's,
      > and probably WILL get down well below freezing. Sorry if you're an
      > old hand at mountain camping, but thought I should mention that.
      > You'll want a zero degree bag, and definitely a pad underneath.
      > There is one small market in Silverton, which carries a good
      > selection of basic food items for slightly higher prices of course,
      > but if you need special items, plan on going to the larger market
      > in durango, about an hour away.
      >
      > good luck!
      > deb pero
      >
      > Kelly Korevec wrote:
      > >
      > > I'm looking for accommodations in the Silverton area for 7/02 - 7/14.
      > >
      > > I'm low-budget, and doing hardrock without a crew. I'm checking
      > out my > options, and would very much appreciate any suggestions or help.
      > >
      > > Sharing lodging, camping near Silverton, couch surfing, sleeping
      > on the > floor. I have a thermarest and can sleep almost anywhere.
      > Any type advice > would help a great deal. > > Thanks guys! > >
      > Kelly Patrick Korevec > > [Non-text portions of this message have
      > been removed] > >
      >
      > --
      > http://debpero.blogspot.com/
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3f. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Dale Garland"
      > hardrock100@... Wed May 28, 2008 4:28 pm (PDT) I am
      > currently unavailable. I will return to the San Juans on June 6. I
      > will be checking e-mail 1-2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3g. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Fred Ecks" fredx@...
      > fredecks Wed May 28, 2008 5:24 pm (PDT) On Wed, 28 May 2008
      > 4:30 pm, Deb's Gmail wrote: > Low budget hotels are the Prospector,
      > and maybe the Outsider's Inn.
      >
      > Before considering the Outsider's Inn, ask me for the current state
      > of my experiences with the proprietor. I think I'm out the $250 I
      > paid, as it appears she won't honor my reservation there. At the
      > moment, I'm disgusted. Time will tell if she redeems the situation...
      >
      > Just a head's-up,
      >
      > - Fred
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3h. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Nardini Manor"
      > nardinimanor@... nardinimanor Wed May 28, 2008 7:09 pm
      > (PDT) Fred and others,
      >
      > I believe that the Outsider's Inn is closed and is for sale. I'll
      > check it out tomorrow and will let you know.
      >
      > Rodger Wrublik
      >
      > _____
      >
      > From: hr100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hr100@yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of Fred Ecks Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:24 PM To:
      hr100@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [hr100] HR lodging, camping near Silverton
      >
      > On Wed, 28 May 2008 4:30 pm, Deb's Gmail wrote:
      > > Low budget hotels are the Prospector, and maybe the Outsider's Inn.
      >
      > Before considering the Outsider's Inn, ask me for the current state
      > of my experiences with the proprietor. I think I'm out the $250 I
      > paid, as it appears she won't honor my reservation there. At the
      > moment, I'm disgusted. Time will tell if she redeems the situation...
      >
      > Just a head's-up,
      >
      > - Fred
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3i. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Dale Garland"
      > hardrock100@... Wed May 28, 2008 7:09 pm (PDT) I am
      > currently unavailable. I will return to the San Juans on June 6. I
      > will be checking e-mail 1-2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3j. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "Lois MacKenzie"
      > skunkears@... skunkears Wed May 28, 2008 7:14 pm (PDT)
      > Dont forget to check out the Chamber of Commerce web site for
      > information about places to stay and don't wait any longer if you
      > want a bed.
      >
      > Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@...> wrote: --- Kelly Korevec
      > <korevec@...> wrote:
      >
      > > I'm looking for accommodations in the Silverton area for 7/02 - 7/14.
      > >
      > > I'm low-budget, and doing hardrock without a crew. I'm checking
      > out my > options, and would very much appreciate any suggestions or help.
      >
      > There is free camping at South Mineral campground, 3 miles from
      > town (just off 550 toward Ouray). That is where I plan to stay. You
      > can also camp free around Grouse Gulch if you want more altitude training.
      >
      > With regard to gear, I don't plan to take an ice axe or crampons.
      > It is easier to find a pointy rock for the few times when you need
      > one. I will have long pants for the glissades since I don't
      like "frostbutt".
      >
      > -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Keep in Touch,
      > LMac
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > web post Messages in this topic (11) 3k. Re: HR lodging,
      > camping near Silverton Posted by: "The Troubadour"
      > thetroubadour@... mickjogger2006 Wed May 28, 2008
      > 9:34 pm (PDT) No! Say it ain't so, Rodger!
      >
      > I (cough cough) just L-O-V-E-D that place!!!!! It had secret
      > passages! It had passages (verbal, heard thru the walls). It had
      > SECRETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Like, dig: Big honkin'
      > riggers from, like, Mexico who had not-so-quiet "designs" on the landlady!
      > And "vice" versa!!!)
      >
      > There was a rooftop mattress for sunbathing! (never laundered)
      > There were cowgirl outfits in the "queensize guestroom"! (never
      > laundered) There was an "unclaimed laptop" which (cough cough) the
      > previous queensize guestroom "guest" inadvertently left underneath
      > the queen. (bathed or unbathed? not sure; but sunbathed FOR SURE!)
      > Oh, there were "stories"... heh-heh, weren't there?
      >
      > OK, look, Rodger here is obviously following the rules and NOT
      > hawking his own F.I.'s in commercial enterprise. So, let me do it.
      >
      > Everybody circle up and gather round. Prior till now (and the
      > reason for my staying at the cowgirl's Blair Street, uh, FORMER
      > house of--shall we say--"infame" and "shrill repute") myself and
      > spouse AVOIDED the fricking Wyman Hotel "and Inn" like children
      > avoid sewage... precisely BECAUSE at that time the Wyman was owned
      > by the "shrill" and the "infame." And they fricking STOLE our
      > deposit AND the entire amount of our "stay" AFTER the Hardrock was
      > cancelled that year.
      >
      > [Whew. I thought by now I'd've gotten over that. Apparently not.]
      >
      > But that's not the point. The point here is that THOSE freakers
      > high-tailed it out of town (on a rail? tarred and feathered? in a
      > lifeboat loaded with sewage??) and then presto/change-o: Rodger
      > Wrublik now owns the Wyman Hotel.
      >
      > So, for goodness sakes, STAY THERE!!! (At least a couple days, eh?)
      > Call 'em up. Telegraph 'em. Crank up your dial-up and get their website
      > [http://www.thewyman.com/ (currently down however)] up on your
      > screen. Look and be amazed. You cannot find better accommodations
      > throughout the entire State of Colorado!
      >
      > Here. Don't take my word for it, whammo/presto:
      >
      > http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g33646-d74729-Reviews-
      Wyman_Hotel_an
      > d_Inn_The-Silverton_Colorado.html
      >
      > [Note that the Wrubliks bought the place in Sept. 2006. Thus,
      > compare reviews before and after that date!]
      >
      > There. I've did my deed. Good or bad, let "the list" decide!
      >
      > Yours troubly,
      >
      > Rich ("if I was in, I'd stay at that Inn") Limacher
      > TheTroubadour@...
      >
      > NFI in inns, nor am I a big rigger, nor am I on the outs with Outsiders.
      >
      >
      > _____
      >
      > From: hr100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hr100@yahoogroups.com] On
      > Behalf Of Nardini Manor Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:09 PM To:
      hr100@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: RE: [hr100] HR lodging, camping near Silverton
      >
      > Fred and others,
      >
      > I believe that the Outsider's Inn is closed and is for sale. I'll
      > check it out tomorrow and will let you know.
      >
      > Rodger Wrublik
      >
      > _____
      >
      > From: hr100@yahoogroups. <mailto:hr100%40yahoogroups.com> com
      > [mailto:hr100@yahoogroups. <mailto:hr100%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
      > Behalf Of Fred Ecks Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 5:24 PM To:
      > hr100@yahoogroups. <mailto:hr100%40yahoogroups.com> com Subject: Re:
      > [hr100] HR lodging, camping near Silverton
      >
      > On Wed, 28 May 2008 4:30 pm, Deb's Gmail wrote:
      > > Low budget hotels are the Prospector, and maybe the Outsider's Inn.
      >
      > Before considering the Outsider's Inn, ask me for the current state
      > of my experiences with the proprietor. I think I'm out the $250 I
      > paid, as it appears she won't honor my reservation there. At the
      > moment, I'm disgusted. Time will tell if she redeems the situation...
      >
      > Just a head's-up,
      >
      > - Fred
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      > [Dubious cowgirl outfits, feather boas, and thigh-high-hidden derringers
      > might possibly remain, however. So: watch it, pardner! ;-]
      >
      > .
      >
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    • Dale Garland
      I am currently unavailable. I will return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-2 times per week. Thanks
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        I am currently unavailable. I will return to the San Juans on June 6. I will be checking e-mail 1-2 times per week. Thanks<br><br> <br>
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