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1542Re: [hr100] Shoes for Hardrock?

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  • Tom Stockton
    May 2 2:55 PM
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      As far a Five Fingers in snow goes, I tried to do ski hill repeats in
      a pair this winter. Traction was pretty good up the slopes but my toes
      froze pretty quickly. Very painful, wouldn't recommend it.


      On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@...> wrote:
      > I am wondering what shoes to wear for Hardrock this year. There is
      > more snow than usual, meaning more than usual water crossings. I would
      > like a shoe that dries quickly but grips well on steep snow and mud.
      > My last two attempts were DNFs. In 2006 I wore some 7 oz. Nike Zoom
      > racing flats without socks. These were well worn so that the bottoms
      > were smooth. This was not too much of a problem because it was a dry
      > year. However, I did not finish the course. For those familiar with
      > the area, I made it to the Silverton ski hut when I heard the town
      > clock strike 6 signaling that my 48 hours were up.
      > In 2007 there was average snow and we ran counterclockwise. I wore
      > Walsh PB trainers ordered from the UK. These are heavier (about 10 oz
      > dry) and have an excellent grip due to a grid of monster spikes on the
      > bottom. However they don't drain well so they are heavy when wet.
      > Anyway, I did slightly better than last year, making it to the corner
      > of Snowdon and 11'th St (behind the Silverton library) before time was
      > up.
      > I think there is room for improvement. We will be going clockwise this
      > year. They normally set up an outdoor "living room" under a canopy
      > with a sofa, lamp, table, etc. for runners to lounge in. Usually it is
      > about 20 feet before the Hardrock. I would like to make it at least
      > that far.
      > Anyway I looked at the PB racers but the new racers are about the same
      > weight as the old trainers (progress, I guess). So instead I ordered
      > some Vibram Five Fingers KSO (nfi). I got them yesterday and did a 3
      > mile test run on a mix of flat roads and grass. They felt good,
      > although my calves got a better than usual workout. It isn't exactly
      > like Hardrock terrain, but I live in Florida so it is the best I can
      > do.
      > Anyway the KSOs are really light, about 5 oz. with a thin mesh upper
      > that ought to dry quickly. The sole is contoured to fit the foot,
      > including a pocket for each toe so they can move independently. It
      > varies in thickness. The thickest areas (about 1/8 inch or 3 mm) are
      > around the heel and ball of the foot. I like the flexibility. You can
      > roll the shoes up into a ball and put them in your pockets.
      > In my test run, I really get a good feel for the ground. There is an
      > obvious difference between smooth and rough pavement. So I know I will
      > feel every pebble. It does not have an aggressive tread so I wondered
      > about steep snow. On the Huaraches list someone said you could dig
      > your toes into the snow so it wasn't a problem. Also, I believe some
      > rock climbers use them. The traction comes from fitting your foot to
      > the ground, which you can't do in a stiff soled shoe.
      > I plan to do some longer test runs first (Wickham Park) before I
      > decide. But has anyone run on mountain terrain in these shoes? I know
      > Barefoot Ted ran Angeles Crest in a slightly different model of
      > FiveFingers and said the only slippery areas were sloping granite slabs
      > with gravel on top.
      > -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...

      Tom Stockton
      (505) 660-8591
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