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  • fsnyder22
    Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon
    Message 1 of 22 , May 8, 2013
      Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.

      Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.

      Fred

      --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@...> wrote:
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      > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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      > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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      > cindy v
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      > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
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      > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 04:16:56 +0000
      > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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      > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
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      > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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      > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@> wrote:
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      > > Shameful is a system which embraces and promotes a lie. A lie which creates areas of wealth at others expense. The word is segregation but we will use a caste system to mask it. If you wish to discuss resegregation by choice would be one thing but here we have a public school system which promotes it.
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      > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Ann De Lacy <anndelacy@> wrote:
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      > > > On May 7, 2013, at 6:06 PM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@> wrote:
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      > > > > "It is reaffirming for our schools when they receive national attention for the teaching and learning that goes on in our buildings every day," said schools spokeswoman Rebecca Amani-Dove. "Howard County schools rank among the best in the nation due to our hard-working students and dedicated staff and community."
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      > > > > I believe both Foose and Amani-Dove are a product of employment in the Maryland Public School System.
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      > > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@> wrote:
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      > > > > > Yep the hcpss sent 92% into the abyss they created but someone (?) said the target for college ready is 30% and none of the self serving have claimed or admitted responsibility for the high remedial ed rate or the low graduation rate. Bet you all can't wait until they conjure a proclamation to make your children career ready.
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      > > > > > Please it is time to end this illusion and fire the likes of Amani-Dove and her benefactor, Foose.
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      > > > > > http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/howard/clarksville/ph-howard-schools-newsweek-20130507,0,3030596.story
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    • Sue Medicus
      I agree with Fred completely. The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we ve been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.
      Message 2 of 22 , May 8, 2013
        I agree with Fred completely.  The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.  The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that.   But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)

        The Board needs to act responsibly, ask questions, and STOP things if it doesn't make sense, not simply rely on "staff" to know what's best

        Sue Medicus


        On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, fsnyder22 <fsnyder22@...> wrote:
         

        Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.

        Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.

        Fred



        --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@...> wrote:
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        > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
        >
        > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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        > cindy v
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        > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
        > From: pamythompson@...

        > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 04:16:56 +0000
        > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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        > Here is how this works. Amani-Dove reports directly to Foose and was part of her restructuring which she said saved money and gave the hcpss 1 voice.
        >
        >
        >
        > Someone in the hcpss either had to take the time which we paid for to research the hcpss standings in Newsweek and issue a press release for the purpose of promoting the hcpss or Ms. Toth thought it would be a great story and promote Howard county and called Amani-Dove for the quote.
        >
        >
        >
        > Either way the public is being fed propaganda which does not serve the educational needs of our children.
        >
        >
        >
        > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
        >
        >
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        > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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        > jack
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        > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@> wrote:
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        > > Shameful is a system which embraces and promotes a lie. A lie which creates areas of wealth at others expense. The word is segregation but we will use a caste system to mask it. If you wish to discuss resegregation by choice would be one thing but here we have a public school system which promotes it.
        >
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        > > I believe I have my 3 minutes ready for public forum.
        >
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        > > jack
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        > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Ann De Lacy <anndelacy@> wrote:
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        > > > Jack,
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        > > > Your comments are shameful and you know it.
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        > > > Ann
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        > > > Sent from my iPad
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        > > > On May 7, 2013, at 6:06 PM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@> wrote:
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        > > > > "It is reaffirming for our schools when they receive national attention for the teaching and learning that goes on in our buildings every day," said schools spokeswoman Rebecca Amani-Dove. "Howard County schools rank among the best in the nation due to our hard-working students and dedicated staff and community."
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        > > > > Hired by her friend Foose.
        >
        > > > >
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        > > > > Article just published.
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        > > > > I believe both Foose and Amani-Dove are a product of employment in the Maryland Public School System.
        >
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        > > > > jack
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        > > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@> wrote:
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        > > > > > Neither Dr. Foose nor Mrs. Amani-Dove were in their current positions during the time frame this information is reporting.
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        > > > > > cv
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        > > > > > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
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        > > > > > From: pamythompson@
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        > > > > > Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 21:21:58 +0000
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        > > > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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        > > > > > Yep the hcpss sent 92% into the abyss they created but someone (?) said the target for college ready is 30% and none of the self serving have claimed or admitted responsibility for the high remedial ed rate or the low graduation rate. Bet you all can't wait until they conjure a proclamation to make your children career ready.
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        > > > > > Please it is time to end this illusion and fire the likes of Amani-Dove and her benefactor, Foose.
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        > > > > > By Sara Toth, stoth@
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        > > > > > The list of 2,000 schools across the country was released Tuesday, May 7 and, according to the magazine, represent the schools that are "most effective in turning out college-ready graduates."
        >
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        >
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        >
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        > > > > > River Hill High School in Clarksville was the top Howard school ranked, coming in at 232.
        >
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        >
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        > > > > > Marriotts Ridge, Centennial, Atholton, Glenelg, Reservoir, Mt. Hebron, Howard, Oakland Mills, Wilde Lake and Long Reach also made the list.
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        > > > > > According to Newsweek, the list is compiled based on a school's graduation; college acceptance rate; Advanced Placement, International Baccalaureate and Advanced International Certificate of Education tests taken per student; the average student score on those tests; percent of student enrolled in at least one of those courses; and average SAT and ACT scores.
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      • Smokey
        I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for
        Message 3 of 22 , May 8, 2013
          I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education.  I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures.  I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools.  That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools.  I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%.  Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree.  It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.

          Also has redistricting been discussed recently?  I saw it on the website.  Also can someone please let me know why you have to register to attend and are you now required to register for all meetings at schools?  

          Thanks.


          Sent from my iPhone

          On May 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Sue Medicus <berryfolks@...> wrote:

          I agree with Fred completely.  The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.  The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that.   But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)

          The Board needs to act responsibly, ask questions, and STOP things if it doesn't make sense, not simply rely on "staff" to know what's best

          Sue Medicus


          On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, fsnyder22 <fsnyder22@...> wrote:
           

          Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.

          Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.

          Fred



          --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@...> wrote:
          >
          > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
          >
          > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
          >
          > cindy v
          >
          > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
          > From: pamythompson@...

          > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 04:16:56 +0000
          > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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        • pamythompson
          This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
          Message 4 of 22 , May 8, 2013
            This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.

            Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.

            Just look at the new homeless shelter to be built in Jessup/Elkridge on Route 1 by the Salvation Army. Ullman already bought a 5 acre B-2 commercial lot in Western Howard on the corner of Daisey and Union Chapel roads to settle a personal dispute between residents and the owner who wanted to use it as it has been of 50 years. Save 3 million dollars and put the shelter there and use the money saved to put something the Route 1 coridor needs.

            Picture this- Go to Glenelg at lunch and you will see most of the African- American children at 2 tables with the very few African-American staff standing near them. It is not the picture you want on the front page of the website but it is one which needs addressed. If you go into the schools in this area you will see class group pictures on their walls and you will notice how few children of color there are but if you come back in a few years you will notice the number has droped especially for males at graduaton. It is tough to talk about these things but they need to be discussed.

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            > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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            > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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            What I am pointing out is the segregation. As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is
            Message 5 of 22 , May 9, 2013
              What I am pointing out is the segregation.

              As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is actually bus service. I could almost gaurantee you the neighborhood would fight something like this tooth and nail. Another point, Western Howard does not have a homeless problem because these people move to places like Mount Airy or any other populated area. I would bet you much of the homeless population in the East are not from that neighborhood.

              Anyway the things you see and notice are worth talking about.



              --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Theresa Jones <theresajones10@...> wrote:
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              > Come to our part of the county if you want to see mixed race lunch tables and mixed race staff.  One of the primary reasons my kids are in HCPSS is the exposure they have to the whole population.  Even though the level of education at some privates is higher, I just didn't see my kids fitting in to their demographics. 
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              > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:05 PM
              > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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              > This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
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              > Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.
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              > Just look at the new homeless shelter to be built in Jessup/Elkridge on Route 1 by the Salvation Army. Ullman already bought a 5 acre B-2 commercial lot in Western Howard on the corner of Daisey and Union Chapel roads to settle a personal dispute between residents and the owner who wanted to use it as it has been of 50 years. Save 3 million dollars and put the shelter there and use the money saved to put something the Route 1 coridor needs.
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              > Picture this- Go to Glenelg at lunch and you will see most of the African- American children at 2 tables with the very few African-American staff standing near them. It is not the picture you want on the front page of the website but it is one which needs addressed. If you go into the schools in this area you will see class group pictures on their walls and you will notice how few children of color there are but if you come back in a few years you will notice the number has droped especially for males at graduaton. It is tough to talk about these things but they need to be discussed.
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              > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Smokey <smokey.lisa@> wrote:
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              > > I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education.  I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures.  I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools.  That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools.  I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%.  Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree.  It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.
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              > > Also has redistricting been discussed recently?  I saw it on the website.  Also can someone please let me know why you have to register to attend and are you now required to register for all meetings at schools? 
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              > > On May 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Sue Medicus <berryfolks@> wrote:
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              > > > I agree with Fred completely.  The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.  The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that.  But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)
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              > > > The Board needs to act responsibly, ask questions, and STOP things if it doesn't make sense, not simply rely on "staff" to know what's best
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              > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, fsnyder22 <fsnyder22@> wrote:
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              > > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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              > > > Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.
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              > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@> wrote:
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              > > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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              > > > > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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              > > > > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
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              > > > > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
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              > > > > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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              > > > > > Shameful is a system which embraces and promotes a lie. A lie which creates areas of wealth at others expense. The word is segregation but we will use a caste system to mask it. If you wish to discuss resegregation by choice would be one thing but here we have a public school system which promotes it.
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              > > > > > > > Hired by her friend Foose.
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            • Ann De Lacy
              The lack of bus service is by design, in some places, to maintain segregation. Sent from my iPad
              Message 6 of 22 , May 9, 2013
                The lack of bus service is by design, in some places, to maintain segregation.  

                Sent from my iPad

                On May 9, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@...> wrote:

                 

                What I am pointing out is the segregation.

                As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is actually bus service. I could almost gaurantee you the neighborhood would fight something like this tooth and nail. Another point, Western Howard does not have a homeless problem because these people move to places like Mount Airy or any other populated area. I would bet you much of the homeless population in the East are not from that neighborhood.

                Anyway the things you see and notice are worth talking about.

                --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Theresa Jones <theresajones10@...> wrote:
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                > Come to our part of the county if you want to see mixed race lunch tables and mixed race staff.  One of the primary reasons my kids are in HCPSS is the exposure they have to the whole population.  Even though the level of education at some privates is higher, I just didn't see my kids fitting in to their demographics. 
                > As for the homeless shelter, Jack, we need it in the east.  Where there is bus service and job opportunity and easier access to health care.
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                > From: pamythompson <pamythompson@...>
                > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
                > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:05 PM
                > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                > This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
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                > Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.
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                > Just look at the new homeless shelter to be built in Jessup/Elkridge on Route 1 by the Salvation Army. Ullman already bought a 5 acre B-2 commercial lot in Western Howard on the corner of Daisey and Union Chapel roads to settle a personal dispute between residents and the owner who wanted to use it as it has been of 50 years. Save 3 million dollars and put the shelter there and use the money saved to put something the Route 1 coridor needs.
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                > Picture this- Go to Glenelg at lunch and you will see most of the African- American children at 2 tables with the very few African-American staff standing near them. It is not the picture you want on the front page of the website but it is one which needs addressed. If you go into the schools in this area you will see class group pictures on their walls and you will notice how few children of color there are but if you come back in a few years you will notice the number has droped especially for males at graduaton. It is tough to talk about these things but they need to be discussed.
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                > > I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education.  I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures.  I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools.  That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools.  I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%.  Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree.  It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.
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                > > On May 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Sue Medicus <berryfolks@> wrote:
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                > > > I agree with Fred completely.  The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.  The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that.  But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)
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                > > > The Board needs to act responsibly, ask questions, and STOP things if it doesn't make sense, not simply rely on "staff" to know what's best
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                > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, fsnyder22 <fsnyder22@> wrote:
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                > > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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                > > > Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.
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                > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@> wrote:
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                > > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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                > > > > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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                > > > > Either way the public is being fed propaganda which does not serve the educational needs of our children.
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                > > > > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
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                > > > > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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                > > > > > > > I believe both Foose and Amani-Dove are a product of employment in the Maryland Public School System.
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              • cynthia vaillancourt
                Seriously? By design to maintain segregation? Where, exactly? Cindy V CC: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com From:
                Message 7 of 22 , May 9, 2013
                  Seriously?  By design to maintain segregation?  Where, exactly? 

                  Cindy V


                  CC: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
                  To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
                  From: anndelacy@...
                  Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 10:47:35 -0400
                  Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit

                   

                  The lack of bus service is by design, in some places, to maintain segregation.  

                  Sent from my iPad

                  On May 9, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@...> wrote:

                   
                  What I am pointing out is the segregation.

                  As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is actually bus service. I could almost gaurantee you the neighborhood would fight something like this tooth and nail. Another point, Western Howard does not have a homeless problem because these people move to places like Mount Airy or any other populated area. I would bet you much of the homeless population in the East are not from that neighborhood.

                  Anyway the things you see and notice are worth talking about.

                  --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Theresa Jones <theresajones10@...> wrote:
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                  > Come to our part of the county if you want to see mixed race lunch tables and mixed race staff.  One of the primary reasons my kids are in HCPSS is the exposure they have to the whole population.  Even though the level of education at some privates is higher, I just didn't see my kids fitting in to their demographics. 
                  > As for the homeless shelter, Jack, we need it in the east.  Where there is bus service and job opportunity and easier access to health care.
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                  > From: pamythompson <pamythompson@...>
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                  > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 10:05 PM
                  > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                  > This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
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                  > Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.
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                  > Just look at the new homeless shelter to be built in Jessup/Elkridge on Route 1 by the Salvation Army. Ullman already bought a 5 acre B-2 commercial lot in Western Howard on the corner of Daisey and Union Chapel roads to settle a personal dispute between residents and the owner who wanted to use it as it has been of 50 years. Save 3 million dollars and put the shelter there and use the money saved to put something the Route 1 coridor needs.
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                  > Picture this- Go to Glenelg at lunch and you will see most of the African- American children at 2 tables with the very few African-American staff standing near them. It is not the picture you want on the front page of the website but it is one which needs addressed. If you go into the schools in this area you will see class group pictures on their walls and you will notice how few children of color there are but if you come back in a few years you will notice the number has droped especially for males at graduaton. It is tough to talk about these things but they need to be discussed.
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                  > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Smokey <smokey.lisa@> wrote:
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                  > > I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education.  I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures.  I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools.  That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools.  I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%.  Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree.  It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.
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                  > > Also has redistricting been discussed recently?  I saw it on the website.  Also can someone please let me know why you have to register to attend and are you now required to register for all meetings at schools? 
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                  > > On May 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Sue Medicus <berryfolks@> wrote:
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                  > > > I agree with Fred completely.  The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.  The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that.  But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)
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                  > > > The Board needs to act responsibly, ask questions, and STOP things if it doesn't make sense, not simply rely on "staff" to know what's best
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                  > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM, fsnyder22 <fsnyder22@> wrote:
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                  > > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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                  > > > Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.
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                  > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@> wrote:
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                  > > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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                  > > > > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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                  > > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                  > > > > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
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                  > > > > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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                • pamythompson
                  Bus service in Western Howard is extremely limited but it does exist as does Ayers bus service which provides a shuttle. There is enough service in this area
                  Message 8 of 22 , May 9, 2013
                    Bus service in Western Howard is extremely limited but it does exist as does Ayers bus service which provides a shuttle.

                    There is enough service in this area to run a shelter or other type of facility.

                    What limited sevice does do in such an affluent area is two fold. Some people feel looked down upon and move to where they feel more normal and others move to where there are more opportunities served by transportation such as walk, bike, taxi and bus. The homeless are no different. Does less affluent equate to by race? The result is the same as we create not just pockets of poverty but islands of utopia.

                    I will tell you this, beyond school and recently Rec and Parks, there is very little for the chidren in Western Howard. There is a huge difference between families who can afford activities which is something Mr. Dyer spoke of and those who can not. Those who can not compete move and their children when they graduate are the first to leave. I would guess the same is true everywhere.

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                    Read and get outside your comfort area, Cindy. Google it and see what you find. I will leave it for others with more time and patience to explain. You might
                    Message 9 of 22 , May 9, 2013
                      Read and get outside your comfort area, Cindy. Google it and see what you find.  I will leave it for others with more time and patience to explain.

                      You might want to begin by analyzing why many communities resisted Metro stops,

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                      On May 9, 2013, at 11:35 AM, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@...> wrote:

                       

                      Seriously?  By design to maintain segregation?  Where, exactly? 

                      Cindy V


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                      Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 10:47:35 -0400
                      Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit

                       

                      The lack of bus service is by design, in some places, to maintain segregation.  

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                      On May 9, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@...> wrote:

                       
                      What I am pointing out is the segregation.

                      As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is actually bus service. I could almost gaurantee you the neighborhood would fight something like this tooth and nail. Another point, Western Howard does not have a homeless problem because these people move to places like Mount Airy or any other populated area. I would bet you much of the homeless population in the East are not from that neighborhood.

                      Anyway the things you see and notice are worth talking about.

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                      > Come to our part of the county if you want to see mixed race lunch tables and mixed race staff.  One of the primary reasons my kids are in HCPSS is the exposure they have to the whole population.  Even though the level of education at some privates is higher, I just didn't see my kids fitting in to their demographics. 
                      > As for the homeless shelter, Jack, we need it in the east.  Where there is bus service and job opportunity and easier access to health care.
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                      > This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
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                      > Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.
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                      > > I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education.  I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures.  I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools.  That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools.  I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%.  Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree.  It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.
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                      > > > I agree with Fred completely.  The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children.  The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that.  But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)
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                      > > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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                      > > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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                    • pamythompson
                      Ms De Lacy, now you know that is not an acceptable response. People do not want in some areas metro becuse it gives access to what they view as less desireable
                      Message 10 of 22 , May 9, 2013
                        Ms De Lacy, now you know that is not an acceptable response.

                        People do not want in some areas metro becuse it gives access to what they view as less desireable persons, the same reason Western Howard would fight you if you put the homeless shelter in a very nice loction on land they already own. My, they would look at drug and alcohol treatmet posibly needed or crime and so on.

                        How do you think my neighbors out here react to me advocating for equality?

                        When I elude to a school system which imports their perception of quality at the expense of our children. To actively participate in the vision to relocate new residents into the county and educate to those you already have to their fullest potential are two very different things.

                        jack



                        --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Ann <anndelacy@...> wrote:
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                        > Read and get outside your comfort area, Cindy. Google it and see what you find. I will leave it for others with more time and patience to explain.
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                        > > Seriously? By design to maintain segregation? Where, exactly?
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                        > > CC: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
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                        > > Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                        > > The lack of bus service is by design, in some places, to maintain segregation.
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                        > > On May 9, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@...> wrote:
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                        > > What I am pointing out is the segregation.
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                        > > As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is actually bus service. I could almost gaurantee you the neighborhood would fight something like this tooth and nail. Another point, Western Howard does not have a homeless problem because these people move to places like Mount Airy or any other populated area. I would bet you much of the homeless population in the East are not from that neighborhood.
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                        > > Anyway the things you see and notice are worth talking about.
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                        > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Theresa Jones <theresajones10@> wrote:
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                        > > > Come to our part of the county if you want to see mixed race lunch tables and mixed race staff. One of the primary reasons my kids are in HCPSS is the exposure they have to the whole population. Even though the level of education at some privates is higher, I just didn't see my kids fitting in to their demographics.
                        > > > As for the homeless shelter, Jack, we need it in the east. Where there is bus service and job opportunity and easier access to health care.
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                        > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                        > > > This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
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                        > > > Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.
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                        > > > Just look at the new homeless shelter to be built in Jessup/Elkridge on Route 1 by the Salvation Army. Ullman already bought a 5 acre B-2 commercial lot in Western Howard on the corner of Daisey and Union Chapel roads to settle a personal dispute between residents and the owner who wanted to use it as it has been of 50 years. Save 3 million dollars and put the shelter there and use the money saved to put something the Route 1 coridor needs.
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                        > > > Picture this- Go to Glenelg at lunch and you will see most of the African- American children at 2 tables with the very few African-American staff standing near them. It is not the picture you want on the front page of the website but it is one which needs addressed. If you go into the schools in this area you will see class group pictures on their walls and you will notice how few children of color there are but if you come back in a few years you will notice the number has droped especially for males at graduaton. It is tough to talk about these things but they need to be discussed.
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                        > > > > I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education. I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures. I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools. That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools. I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%. Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree. It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.
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                        > > > > Also has redistricting been discussed recently? I saw it on the website. Also can someone please let me know why you have to register to attend and are you now required to register for all meetings at schools?
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                        > > > > On May 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Sue Medicus <berryfolks@> wrote:
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                        > > > > > I agree with Fred completely. The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children. The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that. But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)
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                        > > > > > The Board needs to act responsibly, ask questions, and STOP things if it doesn't make sense, not simply rely on "staff" to know what's best
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                        > > > > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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                        > > > > > Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.
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                        > > > > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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                        > > > > > > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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                        > > > > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                        > > > > > > Someone in the hcpss either had to take the time which we paid for to research the hcpss standings in Newsweek and issue a press release for the purpose of promoting the hcpss or Ms. Toth thought it would be a great story and promote Howard county and called Amani-Dove for the quote.
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                        > > > > > > Either way the public is being fed propaganda which does not serve the educational needs of our children.
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                        > > > > > > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
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                        > > > > > > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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                        > > > > > > > Shameful is a system which embraces and promotes a lie. A lie which creates areas of wealth at others expense. The word is segregation but we will use a caste system to mask it. If you wish to discuss resegregation by choice would be one thing but here we have a public school system which promotes it.
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                      • cynthia vaillancourt
                        Ann- Are you talking about county bus service or school bus service? cindy To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com From: pamythompson@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 9 May
                        Message 11 of 22 , May 9, 2013
                          Ann-
                          Are you talking about county bus service or school bus service?
                          cindy


                          To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
                          From: pamythompson@...
                          Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 16:11:56 +0000
                          Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit

                           

                          Ms De Lacy, now you know that is not an acceptable response.

                          People do not want in some areas metro becuse it gives access to what they view as less desireable persons, the same reason Western Howard would fight you if you put the homeless shelter in a very nice loction on land they already own. My, they would look at drug and alcohol treatmet posibly needed or crime and so on.

                          How do you think my neighbors out here react to me advocating for equality?

                          When I elude to a school system which imports their perception of quality at the expense of our children. To actively participate in the vision to relocate new residents into the county and educate to those you already have to their fullest potential are two very different things.

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                          > Read and get outside your comfort area, Cindy. Google it and see what you find. I will leave it for others with more time and patience to explain.
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                          > On May 9, 2013, at 11:35 AM, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@...> wrote:
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                          > > Seriously? By design to maintain segregation? Where, exactly?
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                          > > Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                          > > The lack of bus service is by design, in some places, to maintain segregation.
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                          > > On May 9, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "pamythompson" <pamythompson@...> wrote:
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                          > > What I am pointing out is the segregation.
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                          > > As to the homeless shelter, the east may need it but there is already a 5 acre lot in Western Howard and there is actually bus service. I could almost gaurantee you the neighborhood would fight something like this tooth and nail. Another point, Western Howard does not have a homeless problem because these people move to places like Mount Airy or any other populated area. I would bet you much of the homeless population in the East are not from that neighborhood.
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                          > > Anyway the things you see and notice are worth talking about.
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                          > > > Come to our part of the county if you want to see mixed race lunch tables and mixed race staff. One of the primary reasons my kids are in HCPSS is the exposure they have to the whole population. Even though the level of education at some privates is higher, I just didn't see my kids fitting in to their demographics.
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                          > > > This is a major problem in the hcpss. Issues which should remain open to public discussion are put away and forgoten as though they were finished in stone.
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                          > > > Redistricting- Farms in Western Howard have been stripped of most building rights which limits growth and drives up residential prices. At the same time smaller properties were subdivided and there is a fair amount of building with homes moving back toward the million dollar price tag. Older homes are being expanded or rebuilt. What this means is these schools will fill to or slightly above capacity. The divide between east and west now has a very substantial wall firmly in place.
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                          > > > Just look at the new homeless shelter to be built in Jessup/Elkridge on Route 1 by the Salvation Army. Ullman already bought a 5 acre B-2 commercial lot in Western Howard on the corner of Daisey and Union Chapel roads to settle a personal dispute between residents and the owner who wanted to use it as it has been of 50 years. Save 3 million dollars and put the shelter there and use the money saved to put something the Route 1 coridor needs.
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                          > > > Picture this- Go to Glenelg at lunch and you will see most of the African- American children at 2 tables with the very few African-American staff standing near them. It is not the picture you want on the front page of the website but it is one which needs addressed. If you go into the schools in this area you will see class group pictures on their walls and you will notice how few children of color there are but if you come back in a few years you will notice the number has droped especially for males at graduaton. It is tough to talk about these things but they need to be discussed.
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                          > > > > I must admit, I have often wondered why the only article from several years ago on hcpss home page is touting our schools as an international powerhouse for education. I know that this is a good thing but it bothers me we tout the success but then claim to be victims with no solutions for our failures. I also don't think our home page pictures reflect the true diversity of our schools. That's not to say that the pictures aren't diverse, I just don't think they are as diverse as our schools. I don't believe I saw many minority majority pictures but there were some that were to around 50%. Sorry, I know people don't like to discuss these issues but I noticed it although others might disagree. It is probably unintentional but I noticed it.
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                          > > > > Also has redistricting been discussed recently? I saw it on the website. Also can someone please let me know why you have to register to attend and are you now required to register for all meetings at schools?
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                          > > > > > I agree with Fred completely. The staff of HCPSS is always jumping on the hottest bandwagon, we've been doing that for years to the detriment of our children. The best thing the Board could do would be to put the brakes on that. But no, we continue, (ie, the discontinuance of reading, the addition of Chinese in elementary school, Turf Fields, and on and on and on)
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                          > > > > > Cindy, I would agree with you except HCPSS has been highly ranked for years now and we seem to be the Leader in jumping on every educational trendy bandwagon that comes along instead of being a leader in supporting empirically-based, sound educational practices. It wasn't that long ago that HCPSS applied for an ED grant to further our entrenchment in RTT, and the HCPSS leadership and the BOE supported it.
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                          > > > > > Writing emails to the senior staff is, or at least has been, a waste of time - they are the very people who get us into these messes and have their own personal agendas; until the HCPSS house is cleaned of the long-time senior staff I don't see significant changes coming any time soon.
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                          > > > > > > I can see a great argument to be made that whether we believe the accuracy of these ranking results (and their narratives) we would be foolish to ignore them or simply request we not be included. These high rankings may well give HoCo the clout and credibility to buck the trends, argue the policy changes coming down from on high, and make the claim that we are HoCo, highly ranked in your systems of rankings....and we think your demands are wrongheaded for our county...and we know best for our students....so back the truck up and, if you want to keep your $330,000 that costs us millions in paperwork and time to report on... then YAYAYYAYAYAYAY.
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                          > > > > > > That is the BOE's job. we should --- but most of the members need the support and pressure of the community to take on that task. Writing the same posts ad nauseum here is not pressure or support. Contact your BOE, testify your three minutes, write emails to the Board and the senior staff, show up for the County Council budget meetings.
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                          > > > > > > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 04:16:56 +0000
                          > > > > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                          > > > > > > Here is how this works. Amani-Dove reports directly to Foose and was part of her restructuring which she said saved money and gave the hcpss 1 voice.
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                          > > > > > > Someone in the hcpss either had to take the time which we paid for to research the hcpss standings in Newsweek and issue a press release for the purpose of promoting the hcpss or Ms. Toth thought it would be a great story and promote Howard county and called Amani-Dove for the quote.
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                          > > > > > > Either way the public is being fed propaganda which does not serve the educational needs of our children.
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                          > > > > > > This is right up there with the first listen and learn forums placed on the hcpss website which used the public as a backdrop for propaganda which falsely eludes to inclusion albeit the listen and learn forums with the staff were not placed on the website for the enlightenment of the public.
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                          > > > > > > Sure you do not want to forward this to the BOE and Foose for discussion? Perhaps the BOE and HCPSS would care to admit to the public and apologize for years of deception? This is a very important issue and will allow us to move forward in the best interest of our children and begin replacing the career members of the BOE and the senior administration responsible for intentionally misleading the pubic including the damage caused to our children by sending them into the world unprepared.
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                          > > > > > > > Shameful is a system which embraces and promotes a lie. A lie which creates areas of wealth at others expense. The word is segregation but we will use a caste system to mask it. If you wish to discuss resegregation by choice would be one thing but here we have a public school system which promotes it.
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                          > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 21:21:58 +0000
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                          > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] The Scam Lives and Amani-Dove wants credit
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                          > > > > > > > > > > Yep the hcpss sent 92% into the abyss they created but someone (?) said the target for college ready is 30% and none of the self serving have claimed or admitted responsibility for the high remedial ed rate or the low graduation rate. Bet you all can't wait until they conjure a proclamation to make your children career ready.
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                          > > > > > > > > > > Eleven Howard County high schools have made Newsweek's list of America's Best High Schools.
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                          > > > > > > > > > > The list of 2,000 schools across the country was released Tuesday, May 7 and, according to the magazine, represent the schools that are "most effective in turning out college-ready graduates."
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                          > > > > > > > > > > Marriotts Ridge, Centennial, Atholton, Glenelg, Reservoir, Mt. Hebron, Howard, Oakland Mills, Wilde Lake and Long Reach also made the list.
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                          > > > > > > > > > > According to Newsweek, the list is compiled based on a school's graduation; college acceptance rate; Advanced Placement, International Baccalaureate and Advanced International Certificate of Education tests taken per student; the average student score on those tests; percent of student enrolled in at least one of those courses; and average SAT and ACT scores.
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