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Re: RTTT-D grant application uploaded to files section

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  • robert.rhodeshc
    True, thank you.
    Message 1 of 16 , Dec 8, 2012
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      True, thank you.

      --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, cwertman@... wrote:
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      > Actually Robert, she should not be there to "represent" staff, she should be there to represent the members of the community. If in taking on that role, she questions staff actions that is an appropriate role.
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      > I hope what you are actually saying is that in questioning central office staff or any other members of HCPSS on their actions, processes, and recommendation, we would be hopeful that the questioning and dialog is professional and productive both on the part of the board members but also on the part of staff.
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      > Chris
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      > From: Ann <anndelacy@...>
      > To: howardpubliced <howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 12:08 am
      > Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: RTTT-D grant application uploaded to files section
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      > Sticks and stones, Robert.
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      > Sent from my iPhone
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      > On Dec 6, 2012, at 10:41 AM, "robert.rhodeshc" <robert.rhodeshc@...> wrote:
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      > OMG are you ever full of it...pitting teachers and their principals against one another. Take off that old HCEA hat and remember that you are a BOE member representing ALL of the staff of the HCPSS.
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      > This behavior of yours is just what your opponents said would happen if you were elected; you would go after school administrators to settle scores, tramp on reputations, and promote anarchy. Are there bad administrators? Certainly. Are there bad teachers? You betcha! Stop singling out school-based administrators as demons from hell. It is most unbecoming of an elected official who JUST days ago took the oath of office.
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      > I'm tempted to put this statement out more publicly now that you are sitting in the BOE seat and watch you take responsibility for it. "School based staff has only to fear the local administration (and thats not minor) if they draw too much attention to themselves. Route 108 is a dog-eat-dog environment in which preserving the status quo is paramount. I never know what to believe!"
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      > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Ann De Lacy <anndelacy@> wrote:
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      > > Great points, Cindy. I'm pleased that teachers are now involved in the "Listen and Learn" process. Frankly, I have far greater faith in the ideas of teachers and school non-admin staff to come up with the innovations because they live and breath public education and don't have to dance to the Central Office tunes. School based staff has only to fear the local administration (and thats not minor) if they draw too much attention to themselves. Route 108 is a dog-eat-dog environment in which preserving the status quo is paramount. I never know what to believe!
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      > > We just have to get school-based staff out of their comfort zones in order for them to see beyond their individual classrooms and worksites.
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      > > The more I see and analyze, the more I discover there has been a lack Research and Development based on empirical data, a lack of accountability by non school based staff and the use of education jargon.
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      > > Sent from my iPad
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      > > On Dec 6, 2012, at 1:49 AM, cynthia vaillancourt <CynthiaVaillancourt@> wrote:
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      > > > ARGHGHGHGH - Anything and Everything else aside, there are some good ideas that were being fleshed out in the application...ideas and programs I am hoping we will keep working on, develop, and implement.
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      > > > I am soooo sick of this "all or nothing" thinking. Nothing (and No One) in this system is all bad or all good. For crying out loud --- can we get some support for the good stuff, the bold stuff, the change we are trying to get?
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      > > > I would love to hear from people who actually read the application - what did you think of the concepts, programs, and ideas that are in it? Does anyone have any productive ideas on how we might be able to overcome some of the obstacles that are clearly going to get in the way of implementing some of these good ideas?
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      > > > If we provide instruction and access to high quality on-line materials --- how can we get kids to substitute these enrichment activities for the "less than enriching" hours they currently spend on facebook or "grand theft auto"?
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      > > > How can we actually provide "anytime/anywhere" opportunities to interact with their teachers without putting the teachers on 24 hour per day "on call" shifts?
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      > > > How can we provide family programs in the evenings to accommodate working parents --- and not burn out our teaching staff?
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      > > > Distance learning offers opportunities for one teacher to touch students in many locations...but how many students, remote or otherwise, can one teacher actually service considering there would be papers to grade, questions to answer, parents to update, and all the other personal attention that every student deserves?
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      > > > I know you all are out there. Please re-engage. Read the grant application. It will tell you a lot about what the Supt is hoping to do, trying to do, planning to do. Some of it is great, some of it is a little scary, some of it seems a little faddish, all of it can be made better.
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      > > > This afternoon at one of the "listen and learn" meetings an ESOL teacher made the point that starting ESOL in pre-K would make a huge difference for our ELL students and families. It sounds so simple, and so obvious... and thanks to an engaged teacher who attended this meeting and shared her wisdom - I think a terrific idea has been added to the mix.
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      > > > Cindy V
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      > > > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
      > > > From: pamythompson@
      > > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 05:14:45 +0000
      > > > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: RTTT-D grant application uploaded to files section
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      > > > Why submit it knowing it would be rejected?
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      > > > Maybe it just stunk. Perhaps someone realized it was built from smoke and mirrors and had no foundation.
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      > > > Perhaps Wise and Foose would care to explain? Afterall we paid for the time they wasted instead of it going to the children.
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      > > > jack
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      > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, Ann De Lacy <anndelacy@> wrote:
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      > > > > Fred,
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      > > > > I have no real definitive knowledge of this grant process once it's submitted. My thinking is, given it lacked the critical components, it was not assessed.
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      > > > > Ann
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      > > > > Sent from my iPad
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      > > > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:58 AM, "fsnyder22" <fsnyder22@> wrote:
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      > > > > > What is most troubling to me about this grant application is that it was submitted without the HCEA required signature. This behavior is a clear indication of leadership style (can you say "Rourke"?) from the Superintendent and one of her top administrators, which was also displayed during the special BOE meeting at which the grant application was discussed and approved by the BOE.
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      > > > > > Cindy, Ann, or Allen - do you know if the grant application was actually reviewed and scored by ED, or was it simply dismissed as "nonresponsive" since it didn't have the required signatures?
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      > > > > > Fred Snyder
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      > > > > > --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, "Allen Dyer" <aldyer@> wrote:
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      > > > > > > the RTTT-D grant application (332 pages) which was filed on november 7, 2012 has been posted to the howardpubliced files section.
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      > > > > > > board member vaillaincourt should be thanked for asking for a machine readable copy of the grant application from staff.
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