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elementary school size - lunch rooms - RECESS!!

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  • Allen Dyer
    ray, thank you for the excellent observations. also, i agree with your son -- recess is more important than eating. allen ... From: Ray Lischner
    Message 1 of 1 , Jun 26, 2008
      ray,

      thank you for the excellent observations. also, i agree with your
      son -- recess is more important than eating.

      allen

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Ray Lischner" <rl.edu@...>
      To: <howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:15 PM
      Subject: Re: beware the number crunchers....Re: [howardpubliced] Projections forecast school
      crowding:


      > On Monday 23 June 2008 12:20 pm, Allen Dyer wrote:
      >
      > > i doubt that the spreadsheets
      > > used by the central office planners were sophisticated enough
      > > to take into account the impact of school size on the students'
      > > educational environment. 788 students in an elementary school
      > > is obscene.
      >
      > I do not know how the school district quantified educational environment
      > when they did they calculations.
      >
      > On the one hand, I agree that 788 is a large number of students for an
      > elementary school. Of the three elementary schools I attended (not
      > because I moved, but because my community underwent rapid growth, and I
      > moved from school to school as fast as the school district could build
      > them--sound familiar?), two were half that size. I don't remember size
      > of the third, but I suspect it was larger. (I later attended the same
      > school after it was reconfigured as a junior high. It was large enough
      > to hold grades 7 and 8 for one third of the school district, or about 7
      > elementary schools feeding into it.)
      >
      > On the other hand, a smaller school has more limited opportunities. Only
      > the large school had a separate gym; the others used a single
      > all-purpose room as gym, cafeteria, and more. We did not have a
      > separate music room, or any room for G-T or other enrichment classes.
      >
      > That said, when i had a choice of universities, I picked the smaller
      > one, in large part because it was smaller. (Freshman class size of
      > about 220 students; my second choice school was about 1000 students in
      > each class.) Sometimes, smaller is better.
      >
      > The teachers that I have witnessed do an excellent job at managing their
      > classes, even if there are six such classes in the grade. The biggest
      > problem I've personally witnessed in regards to a large school is
      > lunch. In my son's school, they get 30 minutes for lunch. If you want
      > to buy lunch, the kids spend as much as 20 minutes standing in line to
      > get lunch simply because there are too many kids and the lunch room is
      > too small. My son would then drink the milk, eat a little bit, and
      > throw the rest away because recess was more important to him than
      > lunch. (Last year, 100 students were redistricted out of the school; at
      > the same time, we started packing a lunch, so I can't say whether the
      > smaller school size has addressed this problem.)
      > --
      > Ray Lischner
      >
      >
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