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Re: general policy -- ACCEPTABLE RISK

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  • Allen Dyer
    peter, i understand your concern but....it s not a perfect world. the question should be -- what is the acceptable risk? ALL RISK CANNOT BE ELIMINATED. what
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      peter,

      i understand your concern but....it's not a perfect world. the question
      should be -- what is the acceptable risk?

      ALL RISK CANNOT BE ELIMINATED. what is "acceptable"??

      allen

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "The Sola's" <pmbsola@...>
      To: <howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: Question for all BOE candidates


      Allen,

      Thanks; This "Directory information" and what a parent needs to do to stop HCPSS from "selling" it
      bothers me.


      Peter
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Allen Dyer
      To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:47 PM
      Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: Question for all BOE candidates


      hi peter,

      board policy #3611deals with student records. i think all of the
      policies are now on the board's web page but, for you convenience,
      i downloaded #3611 and attached it to this message. policy #3611
      does reference some relevant statutes.

      note, however, practice and policy are not always in complete alignment.

      allen dyer
      contender for the "master of understatement" crown.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "The Sola's" <pmbsola@...>
      To: <howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:25 PM
      Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: Question for all BOE candidates

      By law? Personal data on a child is sold by law . Please explain .
      Peter
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Kristine
      To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:01 PM
      Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: Question for all BOE candidates

      It's not so much sold as it is free with a nominal charge, per law.
      You can get it on disk or paper, and students and teachers can opt
      out.

      Kristine

      --- In howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com, "cynthia vaillancourt"
      <CynthiaVaillancourt@...> wrote:
      >
      > Dr. Sola and all BOE candidates,
      > What should we conclude from your (Dr. Sola's) question about the
      student
      > information kept by HCPSS - (is it sold) ?
      >
      > Are you a proponent of HCPSS authority to do with our children's
      information
      > as it sees fit? Or do you believe students and parents have a
      legitimate
      > claim to control of this information?
      >
      > This has been a topic of some concern - and will likely become
      more so as
      > new ways to abuse this kind of information become available.
      >
      > All candidates:
      > Please make a clear statement regarding your position on HCPSS
      student
      > information dissemination policies - including "standing",
      adequacy, and
      > distribution to military and non-education related government
      bodies.
      >
      > Thank you,
      >
      > CIndy Vaillancourt
      >
      >
      > >From: "The Sola's" <pmbsola@...>
      > >Reply-To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
      > >To: <howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com>
      > >Subject: Re: [howardpubliced] Re: whose ox is being gored?
      > >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:46:07 -0400
      > >
      > >This
      > >info is way off the topic of education but since I also wouls
      oppose my
      > >onfo to line and since I wanted to respond to Kristine I need to
      use this
      > >listserve.
      > >
      > >Another point,, on topic is the data base that HCPSS has on your
      child.
      > >Does HCPSS sell it to any companies??
      > >Peter
      > >
      > >Name & Address Data Base
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Beginning in May '05, a new database will be available to the
      general
      > >public, free of charge, that displays your personal information
      (names,
      > >addresses, phone numbers, birth dates).
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >The database is found at www.zabasearch.com
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Check to see if your name and information is in their
      database. If so
      > >and you want it removed, send them an e-mail at info@... to
      > >request it be removed. I do not know how our names are appearing
      there,
      > >but I checked my own and a few other random ones, and they are
      all in this
      > >database!
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >After opting out by email, check back after a few days to make
      certain your
      > >information has been removed.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Kristine
      > > To: howardpubliced@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:21 PM
      > > Subject: [howardpubliced] Re: whose ox is being gored?
      > >
      > >
      > > Someone posted my address on here once too and it really
      ticked me
      > > off, so I get where she's coming from.
      > >
      > > Yes, addresses are out there, but why make it easy?
      > >
      > > And here is a tiny bit of my never-shared online story to
      explain
      > > why:
      > >
      > > In September 2000, a few months after I had been in the news,
      the
      > > police called me. It was not the Howard County policy, but I
      > > obviously want to keep some details of this private. They
      basically
      > > had seized some written material from someone making threats
      against
      > > several women (this person did not live or work in HoCo, nor
      was he
      > > associated with anyone who did, as far as I know). One letter
      was
      > > to me, although he had never mailed the letter to me or
      contacted me
      > > in another way. He had contacted another one of the women
      though.
      > >
      > > The letter, which was addressed to someone else, was a plea
      for that
      > > other person to kill me and my family. I don't just mean, " I
      wish
      > > they were dead," but I mean a page full of details, including
      my
      > > address. It was shocking to read, and now I am very much aware
      of
      > > the kind of people out there. Many candidates use P.O. Boxes
      now,
      > > with good reason.
      > >
      > > When an address is posted, it tells everyone where someone's
      kids go
      > > to school ("here is where her kids will be when she's not
      directly
      > > supervising them.").
      > >
      > > I am in complete favor of address privacy, and I think owners'
      names
      > > should be removed from public records, tax records, voter
      records,
      > > etc... Such information should be private access only, like
      income
      > > tax information.
      > >
      > > Sure addresses may be out there, but by making it extra easy,
      > > weirdoes are only encouraged. If it's more time consuming, a
      > > certain percentage of the dangerous folks will not have the
      time or
      > > means.
      > >
      > > Candidates do us a service when they run. They allow us to
      have a
      > > democratic process. In return, we should make the situation
      safe
      > > for them.
      > >
      > > Kristine
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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