Fw: school lunch
- thot i would ask my son (who is a senior) for his perspective on 30 minute
lunch breaks. allen
----- Original Message -----
From: abe dyer <abedyer@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:20 AM
Subject: school lunch
> school lunch time
> Legally, I can buy tobacco and shotguns, vote, and be drafted, but not go to
> McDonalds for lunch. As a senior in high school, I am allowed a paltry
> thirty minutes for lunch. During those thirty minutes I am guarded like a
> convict, and should I leave the cafeteria I am confronted with a barrage of
> rudely asked questions. Often, I am treated with a great deal of hostility
> by the volunteer hall monitors when I fail to present a pass while using the
> bathroom facilities. I find this a bit ironic in that teachers love to
> spitefully respond "Go to the bathroom? No, you have to wait until lunch."
> Students, at the very least seniors, should be allowed the option of
> securing sustenance on their lunch break, off campus. It sickens me that
> young adults, as old as eighteen, are treated like children.
> abe dyer
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- At 01:06 AM 02/01/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Abe via Allen Dyer:go to
>> Legally, I can buy tobacco and shotguns, vote, and be drafted, but not
>> McDonalds for lunch.<shudder> Please don't bring up those other "freedoms" as an argument as to
why students should be allowed off-campus for lunch!
>As a senior in high school, I am allowed a paltryAt every school level, I think this is not enough time, if one considers
>> thirty minutes for lunch.
how long it takes to obtain lunch if buying this from the cafeteria.
At our middle school, lunch was a free-for-all; the closest thing I can
imagine to pandemonium/chaos... the teachers (those that HAD to be in the
room) and the principal (a failure) had NO control over those students! If
that is socialization, I'd rather my kids skip it. (As a matter of fact,
usually they didn't eat anything while in school, to my GREAT dismay. They
didn't like the foods that would transport safety to school in their
lunches. They just waited til they got home from school.)
>During those thirty minutes I am guarded like aUh, not at our high school, unfortunately. Too many students (IMO-but then
>> convict, and should I leave the cafeteria I am confronted with a barrage of
>> rudely asked questions.
I'm a strict disciplinarian, or would like to be that effective :-) )
already think of school as one big party. I know you may view this
discipline as draconian, but would you want to be in a school with just the
opposite atmosphere? My kids prefer being in a controlled environment (firm
but not mean).
Any high school which allows students off-campus would be a persuasive
argument for other high schools to allow the same. And at how many schools
is that practical? (Traffic in/out of lot, impact on surrounding
communities, etc) I'm sure our principal would also point out the
opportunity it would afford students to go out to the parking lot (or
farther) and engage in illicit activities such as substance abuse.
As a community member, I'd rather high-school-aged kids stay in the
building or at least on campus during the school day. How would the food
vendors in their area feel about this? Would they welcome the business or
want to avoid any misbehavior? How many of the at-risk kids would return to
school after the temptation of the short period of freedom?
I DO think our cafeteria facilities are too small and offer foods
unappealing to most kids. (I understand some HSs...WL?...have much better
cafeterias?) And I do think the kids should have more time at lunch, to eat
and to responsibly socialize; but only if the school day is extended likewise.
I know my comments could be construed as offensive to many high schoolers
who ARE responsible and mature enough to deal with the potential problems
of off-campus lunching. However, it's also the case that many are not (and
this might be so in some areas more than others, where the cultural
expectations are different) and unfortunately we often manage kids to the
lower level rather than the higher level.
>It sickens me thatI don't think we adults intend to demean you and hurt you, but from our
>> young adults, as old as eighteen, are treated like children.
perspective... well, you ARE still children, and we do want to continue to
manage you to try to protect you.
(And I'd get the tobacco and guns and draft away from even-18-year olds,
too. As for voting, well, I wish MORE of the younger voters were registered