Samwel and Andrius chat about his trip to Europe
- Welcome to all from Amsterdam! I just flew in from Chicago. I share my chat
today with Samwel Kongere in Kenya who leads our Mendenyo (Men without food)
working group. Andrius
Samwel's trip to Europe
samkongere2004: ok Andrius, and I am thankful, I see great work and how do
you figure this trip to Europe next year?
minciusodas: I think that you are a good organizer
minciusodas: and also it'
minciusodas: is important that you spend some time in Europe to understand
the situation here
samkongere2004: We are meeting with Maria Here in May and we will make the
minciusodas: and perhaps how people in Africa can be helpful here
minciusodas: So for us it is most important that you be investigating your
question about the comfortable life while helping others - we should make a
plan for that
minciusodas: and study that in Africa and in Europe too
minciusodas: so that you become expert on this question.
samkongere2004: I also wanted to train on Some ICT related issues and even
minciusodas: That will make you very knowledgeable in reality here and
minciusodas: but if you are working on an investigation that is important to
minciusodas: then your training will be much more focused and connected and
samkongere2004: i Think
minciusodas: Second, it is important that you think of yourself as a
representative for all of our Africans
minciusodas: and our people in other developing countries too
minciusodas: and you should feel comfortable and knowledgeable as a
minciusodas: and make connections for everybody
minciusodas: not just yourself.
samkongere2004: That is why I am concerned about Cameroon, Uganda and
minciusodas: So that when you are in Europe you can help everybody.
minciusodas: Yes, very good.
samkongere2004: Great I always love you inputs, we only become great when we
minciusodas: yes and your example is fantastic and inspiring
minciusodas: and we learn a lot from what you show is possible
samkongere2004: helping others get information and wealth
samkongere2004: I think your business idea for the lab is also fantastic
minciusodas: yes so it will be important that you understand our business
partners in Europe and what kind of work can be done in Africa
samkongere2004: I thank you also for connecting me with Maria A great lady.
She is paying my internet
samkongere2004: Yes, this can help me go in search of businesses for our lab
samkongere2004: I am not troubled now this is why i am doing great
samkongere2004: This will be our oreintation plan for a cohesive Africa and
East Africa, when they use me as their link.
minciusodas: yes, we'll need to think and write about your income to make
sure that you can get by for the coming year
minciusodas: and I expect our bonuses soon, thank you for your excellent
minciusodas: and I ask for your thought and advice through our groups where
we should make best use of our money
minciusodas: so that we include everybody in some small way
minciusodas: not just in Africa but in India and other countries, too
minciusodas: we will think and plan
samkongere2004: Yes this is going to open scope
samkongere2004: I hope you will be taking the lead while I do the plan for
what to do for Africa while there
minciusodas: yes we'll get to know each other better! I look forward to
minciusodas: also, Agnese is interested in e-learning so we should think
about her interests how to support them
samkongere2004: Yes we are going with her in the same direction
samkongere2004: It will be a great opportuinty to meet you, you are inspiring
minciusodas: Her deepest value is "Growing as Human Beings" and her
investigatory question is: How can people stuck in the Western work system
apply themselves creatively for the education of youth?
minciusodas: So we should encourage her to work on that!
minciusodas: Thank you!
minciusodas: Anything else?
minciusodas: I will share our chat
samkongere2004: Just go on and do the arrangements our imigration office will
need some documents to support my travels and I will let you this when I visit
Nairobi in May.
samkongere2004: They will also require your invitation letter and a support
letter to make my travel recomendations.
minciusodas: Samwel, please inquire about all the documents. Please check if
your visa for Italy will be good for other countries, too. Or do you need a
visa for each country separately? Also, please check for Lithuania. Say
that you are a guest of our Minciu Sodas laboratory. We can provide you the
invitation but you should do as much as you can yourself to prepare the
samkongere2004: Yes the invitation for Italy and Lithuania
samkongere2004: can come from you and a support letter to say what I do for
MiniciuSodas Lab will add wait
samkongere2004: But the rest I will enquire and be ready with them
samkongere2004: I think one visa can go to all EUC member countries, I don't
think of Lithuania/
minciusodas: Lithuania is in the European Union
samkongere2004: Is it amember?
minciusodas: but I'm not sure how it works with the visas
minciusodas: yes we are since 2004
minciusodas: ok I will go now, bye!
samkongere2004: Then we will make these arrangements whenMaria is here
samkongere2004: you can go thanks for the chat
Signing up people for our groups
samkongere2004: hi old buddy?
samkongere2004: How is your travelling?
minciusodas: Hi Samwel, I am in Amsterdam
minciusodas: I have a list of people from Chicago for you to sign up for
samkongere2004: I thank you for the good mails
minciusodas: How are you?
minciusodas: Yes and you, too.
samkongere2004: doing well
samkongere2004: I am thankful you are teaching the best ways to maintain
samkongere2004: I doing well
samkongere2004: You are fast, you will soon be back to lithuania, great Work
samkongere2004: glad to have more people for mendenyo
minciusodas: I should ask
minciusodas: how did it go with the people from the World Social Forum?
minciusodas: I saw that you invited them
samkongere2004: They are not very active
samkongere2004: some write me personal letters but not to the forum
minciusodas: but did you sign them up? I don't think they are signed up.
samkongere2004: I did interview them and they signed the flyer
samkongere2004: I think I nvited them
minciusodas: yes but they did not join
minciusodas: they did not respond to your invitation
minciusodas: That is why you must "add" them.
samkongere2004: adding them
minciusodas: do you know how to do that?
samkongere2004: i think this is what I don't know then
minciusodas: ok, I will show you
minciusodas: go to the Mendenyo page
samkongere2004: go on
samkongere2004: Thanks you are my tech..
minciusodas: click on Invite
minciusodas: but don't use this
minciusodas: look though near the bottom
minciusodas: it will say
samkongere2004: let me see
minciusodas: Add Members </group/mendenyo/subs_add> from an existing email
minciusodas: do you see?
minciusodas: click on Add Members... and it will take you to
samkongere2004: I am there but don't see the link for add
minciusodas: it is towards the bottom of the page
minciusodas: it is just above the button Submit Invite
minciusodas: and just below the box for Enter an IntroductoryMessage
minciusodas: you see, yes?
samkongere2004: I am there and correct
minciusodas: Now you can use this because you have gotten their permission.
minciusodas: So you don't have to invite them..
samkongere2004: I will use this to sgn them glad
minciusodas: You can simply add them.
samkongere2004: to have you there
minciusodas: And you should alert them that letters to our group are in the
minciusodas: You can only add 10 per day.
minciusodas: From the World Social Forum, you should sign them all up for
Mendenyo, yes? or to other groups?
samkongere2004: there were some who wanted to join fighting peacefully
samkongere2004: i will check if they write back
minciusodas: Do you know who wanted to join which group?
minciusodas: I can sign them up for the other groups.
minciusodas: if you send me their emails and the groups
samkongere2004: Yes I will refer to the flyers
minciusodas: but if you don't know which group then sign them up for
minciusodas: yes the flyers will tell you
minciusodas: did they write about their deepest values?
minciusodas: Please send me that information.
minciusodas: that's great
minciusodas: that's fine