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David: Thanks for the Invaluable Info!!/Nakuru Digital Village/links to Sneakernet, KenTel, and peace centers?

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  • Janet Feldman
    Dear David and All, Immense thanks for this excellent info, and I am delighted with this info, in part because Gladys Muhunyo was a KAIPPG volunteer for
    Message 1 of 6 , May 12, 2009
      Dear David and All,
      Immense thanks for this excellent info, and I am delighted with this info, in part because Gladys Muhunyo was a KAIPPG volunteer for awhile! So there is a great connectedness, as you know James Onyango, Exec Dir of KAIPPG, and Dennis has been a KAIPPG volunteer too!
      I'm very glad to know Gladys is with CAI, and also to know abt the import fees.  I thought I had heard that the govt had eliminated fees on computers, but from what you've said that is not true. Gladys should know more, and she may have feedback for Dennis on a variety of ICTs-related subjects, including REPACTED's project.
      I love the idea of a Nakuru Digital Village, and the possibility of a loan is great too :))). This concept is something we could explore for different areas of Kenya where MS members are located. As well as how it might connect to the Sneakernet project.  And could we use this concept and possibility to create a series of peace centers, about which we had talked last year, and/or to link to KenTel and other Kenya-situated ICTs endeavors?
      I look forward to more conversations abt that here, and to connecting with you by phone too at some point, while you are in the USA! With greatest blessings and all best wishes, Janet
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:13 PM
      Subject: [mendenyo] Re: [learningfromeachother] Re: [holistichelping] Computer Aid International: Import Issues? /Nonprofit status needed

      Dear Dennis, Janet, Andrius and all,
      I am always happy to assist in work that enables people have access to information, learning opportunities or acquire knowledge via technology aimed at eradicating ignorance that exists in our communities.
      Dennis, Computer Aid International has the African head office in Nairobi, International House 4th floor, Gladys Muhunyo is the African representative (Programme Manager), her contacts are
      Gladys Muhunyo
      Africa Programme Manager
      Computer Aid International
      4th Floor International House
      P.O BOX 1491-00100, Nairobi, Kenya
      Tel: +254 (0)20 2230827
      Fax: +254 (0)20 2230828
      cell:+254(0)722 707140 
      email: gladys@... 
      I would suggest you call or write her directly on details you may need about importation of second hand computers and accessories in Kenya via CAI. I won't mind if you mention my name as reference.
      On ICT for youth projects probably you might also want to involve you and your group into the Kenya ICT Board Digital Villages Project - Pasha Centers. Find more information here http://www.ict.go.ke/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=133 there are Youth ICT Entrepreneurs funds/3 yrs loans to establish Digital villages/Pasha Centers - probably you can start thinking of Nakuru Digital Village. We can discuss further because i have been involved in this project in its initial stages.
      Importation of second hand computers, accessories and parts in Kenya for all purposes (gifts, community projects, for sale e.t.c.) may attract a duty of 25% and VAT 16% of the present cost price.
      Best of Luck 
      David N. Mutua
      Cincinnati Ohio
      Phone: +1 513 237 5911

      --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Janet Feldman <kaippg@...> wrote:
      From: Janet Feldman <kaippg@...>
      Subject: [learningfromeachother] Re: [holistichelping] Computer Aid International: Import Issues? /Nonprofit status needed
      To: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com, learnhowtolearn@yahoogroups.com, mendenyo@yahoogroups.com, learningfromeachother@yahoogroups.com
      Cc: bencreates@...
      Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 1:44 PM

      Dear Dennis, Andrius, and All,
      Andrius, I have just read your full note on this, with a discussion abt pooling resources. The last time I checked with CAI, one has to be a nonprofit, a school, or some other like entity to get these computers (so MS as a "business" could not, unless the rules have changed).
      Some of our other members in Kenya could apply, but there is a "vetting" process too, which might add layers of "issues" to sending them to more than one party at a time. That could be checked, though. In any case, it would be good to link any ICTs projects that members have, such as the Sneakernet project and REPACTED's blogging project.  And that's good to keep in mind as members develop their ICTs capacities.
      In this case it sounds like REPACTED has a need for all of the computers in the shipment, though?
      Besides the issues I mentioned earlier, I wonder about the importing and transportation from Mombasa.  I have heard that import fees have been waived for computers, but is that true?  Sometimes items like this can sit for months in port, so that should be checked. Also, do you have transport of these machines from Mombasa to Nakuru?
      The total cost for shipment in dollars is $3000.  I think you might want to consider applying for a second Rising Voices grant this summer, Dennis, which would cover the shipment costs, and give you a bit more to expand your already successful blogging program. I'm not sure how else you can raise $3000...does the Kenya ICTs program have any funds you can apply for to purchase computers?
      By the way, I need more info from you on that for a case study for the Blogging Positively Guide!
      Thanks for all suggestions, and very best wishes and blessings to everyone!  Janet
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:30 PM
      Subject: [holistichelping] Re: [actalive] Repacted may receive computers from Computer Aid International

      Dear Janet Andrius and all
      Thank you for the responces and am really touched by this we will recieve 25 pentium 4 Computerss fully loaded and with all the cables as from the mail i forwarded to the group, the total cost of shipment, inspection documentation and carrier handling is as stated by CAI is 2080 Sterling pounds..
      We intend to use this computers for education purposes the beneficiary being the youths and poplation within the community, also targeting some of the street children and youths who we are planning to work with in the very near future. All the computers will be kept in Nakuru and we will not sell as we are recieveing them as a gift and the center will also be a blogging center for the community to blog freely.
      Kind Regards always

      +254-722-388- 275
      PO BOX 17382 20100
      Kipchoge Keino Avenue
      Nakuru Players Theatre behind Bontana Hotel

      --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Janet Feldman <kaippg@earthlink. net> wrote:

      From: Janet Feldman <kaippg@earthlink. net>
      Subject: Re: [actalive] Repacted may receive computers from Computer Aid International
      To: actalive@yahoogroup s.com, holistichelping@ yahoogroups. .com, learnhowtolearn@ yahoogroups. com, mendenyo@yahoogroup s.com, learningfromeachoth er@yahoogroups. com
      Cc: "Georgia Arnold" <arnold.georgia@ mtvne.com>
      Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:06 AM

      Dear Friend Dennis and All,

      Great to see you posting in these forums!

      On CAI, they are an excellent outfit, and have sent computers all over the
      world, including to Kenya.

      KAIPPG investigated a shipment for itself some years ago, and the cost then
      was about $1500 for 30 computers. However, these were older-model desktops,
      which do run more slowly--not a bad thing in some ways, esp given
      developing-country infrastructure challenges (which makes it harder to
      support faster machines)--but would also have caused some frustration in
      terms of certain features and repair costs.

      Graham has mentioned some other issues (dust, high electricity costs), and
      do add repairs to that list. Perhaps in Nakuru it is not as much of an issue
      as in more rural areas of W Kenya, but worth investigating.

      In the end, it seemed a better thing to "buy locally", and perhaps you
      should investigate what you could get within Kenya itself, both desktops and
      laptops. You might get a discount for buying in quantity, and/or find
      places selling used and refurbished equipment. There are certain places that
      might repair what they sell, too. And (this is important) they might take
      them for recycling, when the machines no longer work! Discarded computer
      equipment is becoming an ecological hazard everywhere these days.

      Do you have the shipping cost from CAI yet, and how many computers would
      this be? By the way, for everyone, here is the url of Computer Aid
      International: http://www.computer aid.org/. They have some good articles on
      their site, including a recent study abt the best low-power PCs.

      Thanks for all feedback, and looking forward to helping get REPACTED more
      computers for its vital work! Blessings always, Janet

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <ms@...>
      To: <holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com>; <learnhowtolearn@ yahoogroups. com>;
      <mendenyo@yahoogroup s.com>; <learningfromeachoth er@yahoogroups. com>
      Cc: "act alive" <actalive@yahoogroup s.com>; "Georgia Arnold"
      <arnold.georgia@ mtvne.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:45 AM
      Subject: [actalive] Repacted may receive computers from Aid International

      > Dennis Kimambo,
      > Thank you for alerting us that your community theatre activist
      > organization REPACTED http://www.repacted .org in Kenya has been approved
      > for a shipment of computers from Aid International.
      > How many computers will you receive? How do you plan to use them? How
      > much do you need to pay in all for shipping, inspections, taxes and
      > duties? Is it possible for you to sell some of the computers or to keep
      > them in different locations (such as Nairobi, Kisumu, Eldoret and Rusinga
      > Island)?
      > It might be possible for us to pool our resources. What do you think?
      > Also, thank you for helping us research and engage UK online communities
      > http://www.worknets .org/wiki. cgi?UKOnlineComm unities
      > on behalf of Mornflake http://www.mornflak e.com and their online video
      > competition http://www.mornflak ecompetition. com I ask Minciu Sodas
      > participants (and others) in Kenya to contact you +254 722 388 275
      > regarding training because we need more help for this paid work.
      > Andrius
      > Andrius Kulikauskas, Minciu Sodas, http://www.ms. lt, ms@...
      >> Hello all
      >> Hope that all of you are well and pushing on with projects nicely we have
      >> been carrying out our projects nicely and more and more participartion
      >> from the public, in this endevour we had asked for computers from
      >> computer
      >> Aid International and they ahve aprroved the request though we have to
      >> raise the shipping costs i am fowarding it to this mailing list so that
      >> we
      >> can be assisted and if any one is in UK cn check this ou for us also,
      >> this
      >> will really help REPACTED to reach it mission of continued citizen
      >> mediaship and health messages to more young people. If you find it
      >> good and want to donate we will appreciate,
      >> Kind Regards
      >> Dennis
      >> +254-722-388- 275
      >> PO BOX 17382 20100
      >> Kipchoge Keino Avenue
      >> Nakuru Players Theatre behind Bontana Hotel
      >> EAST AFRICA
      >> repacted.org
      >> --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Patricia Del Rio <patriciadr@computer aid.org> wrote:
      >> From: Patricia Del Rio <patriciadr@computer aid.org>
      >> Subject: Computer Aid International ref 48296/1 REPACTED - Kenya
      >> To: repactedkenya@ yahoo.com
      >> Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 8:24 AM
      >> Dear Michael,
      >> Thank you for your application dated 04/05/2009 for computers from
      >> Computer Aid International.
      >> I am pleased to inform you that your application has been assessed and
      >> has
      >> been approved by
      >> us subject only to receipt of proof of your non-profit status and receipt
      >> of payment of the handling
      >> fees and shipping costs detailed in the attached pro-forma invoice.
      >> Once the indicated funds clear into our London bank account your
      >> computers
      >> will normally be at
      >> sea within 21-28 days.
      >> It is important that your organisation understands the requirements of
      >> your local customs and excise
      >> in order to be able to bring the computers in to Kenya. Where Computer
      >> Aid International arranges for
      >> shipping we will ensure that computers get to Mombasa or Nairobi freight
      >> terminal and we will supply
      >> the shipping documents and gift certificate. Kenya requires imports to
      >> have a pre-shipment inspection.
      >> Please contact Intertek Nairobi to see if you would require inspection or
      >> be exempt. You can contact the
      >> Nairobi office of Intertek on Tel: + 254 20 444 9132, Fax: + 254 20 444
      >> 9212 or website:
      >> http://www.intertek -fts.com/ programmes/ kenya/?id= KENYA
      >> There is a new added cost that the kenyan government is adding for the
      >> clearance of computers,
      >> this is 25% of the total amount of the original invoice.
      >> In order to complete our assessment process we need you to send us
      >> evidence of your 'not for profit'
      >> status, such as copies of your organisation' s certificate of registration
      >> and letterhead. We would also be
      >> happy to receive a more detailed descriptions of the work of your
      >> organisation and the use the computers
      >> will be put to within your organisation. Please send this additional
      >> material before your payment for the
      >> requested computers.
      >> Please quote your demand reference number 48296 with any further
      >> correspondence. Please also
      >> check that the correct freight terminal has been named on your Proforma
      >> Invoice.
      >> Currently the minimum specifications that we supply in every order are:
      >> 100% Pentium 4 or equivalent PCs with:
      >> a minimum of 256 Mb RAM
      >> between 1.4Ghz – 3.0Ghz+ processors (AMD – XP+ processor, Celeron –
      >> 1.5Ghz+ processor)
      >> between 20Gb and 100Gb+ hard disks
      >> 100% of P4s have CD-ROM or DVD Drives
      >> 100% of machines will have either a USB port or floppy disk
      >> Each machine is a full system - boxed and securely packaged complete with
      >> its own colour monitor, keyboard,
      >> mouse and cables.
      >> Power plugs are UK standard (three square pins) and so in many countries
      >> you will need to replace them
      >> with standard local plugs.
      >> Included with the Proforma Invoice is a copy of Computer Aid
      >> International' s Terms and Conditions as
      >> well as current Technical Specifications for your reference.
      >> Regards,
      >> Patricia Del Rio
      >> Administrative Assistant (Trilingual)
      >> Computer Aid International
      >> Tel: +44 (0) 208 361 5540
      >> Fax: +44 (0) 208 361 7051
      >> Email: patriciadr@computer aid.orgWebsite: www.computeraid. org
      >> Registered Charity no. 1069256
      >> 10 Brunswick Industrial Park
      >> Brunswick Way, London, N11 1JL
      >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
      >> Computer Aid International is the world's largest and most experienced
      >> not-for-profit
      >> provider of professionally refurbished PCs to developing countries.
      >> We have provided over 135,000 computers to educational institutions and
      >> not-for-profit organisations in 107 different countries since 1997.
      >> Computer Aid provides only high-quality Pentium 4 PCs.
      >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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