Re: Some questions concerning the 'includer' concept
- Dear Lorraine Lee,
Thank you very much for your letter which I share with four of our
Minciu Sodas laboratory's http://www.ms.lt groups:
Learn How to Learn led by Kiyavilo Mseka
Mendenyo led Samwel Kongere http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mendenyo/
Learning From Each Other led by Pamela McLean
Holistic Helping led by Janet Feldman
Learn How To Learn is where we're focusing our work on the Includer
http://www.includer.org I invite you to join us there. Send a blank
message to firstname.lastname@example.org I don't have
answers to your great questions, but Ricardo and others might. Also, I
intend to use your post for my Includer blog http://www.includer.org, I
hope that it's in the Public Domain! or please let me know.
I'm interested to work to "include" you and help develop solutions for
you and others to be with us.
Thank you for writing!
+370 699 30003
Lorraine Lee wrote:
> I am interested in what you term 'includers,' which I understand to
> mean technologies intended to facilitate offline reading and
> writing of online content. I found out about this at the following
> This interests me in part because I myself have no 'residential'
> Internet access, and therefore rely on local libraries for access
> to cypherspace. Being an American, I suppose that makes me
> something of an underacheiver, but make no mistake, the so-called
> digital divide is a problem here too. It seems that on Rusinga
> Island, like in America, computer ownership is much more affordable
> than Internet connectivity. So-called standalone broadband is
> virtually unavailable here. Broadband service is available from
> two industries, which I call 'Big Phone' and 'Big Cable.' It is
> basically impossible to get broadband access without a bundle
> (package deal) that includes phone service, cable TV service, or
> both, making the 'entry level' 'price of admission' to the Internet
> about $60/month.
> I started a 'tribe' to share what I've learned about negotiating
> connect-time as a constraint. Understand there is no offense
> intended in the use of the term 'vagrant' in the name.
> I have some questions concerning your experience with includers.
> - Do you know of any web-based email services that allow 'bulk
> downloads' of one's inbox? This would be akin to simply
> downloading /usr/spool/mail in old-school un*x, but I don't know of
> anything available today with a simple level of simplicity and not
> bogged down with advertising and other wasted bandwidth. Perhaps I
> should look into shell providers.
> - Do you have any experience with offline use of RSS feeds?
> - Can you tell me about web-based search agents? Or USB-resident
> bots? I currently run wget.exe (part of the 'Unix Utilities' for
> DOS/Windows) from my flash drive. This of course raises some
> questions about netiquette, but I only recur 1 level deep, and
> always use a timeout to limit bandwidth consumption.
> One of the main interests I am pursuing online is informational
> transparency and symmetry. You might say it's my hobby. I have
> been trying to come up with strategies for members of the public
> (perhaps what you would term independent thinkers?) to enlarge the
> amount of tabular data about the consumer marketplace in the
> machine-readable public domain. Nothing has come of it yet, at
> least in part (I hope) because I have not yet connected with other
> interested parties. Hopefully the project (which I call 'pubwan')
> can create something interesting given 'critical mass.' Perhaps
> not. At any rate, I would appreciate nothing more than for people
> to add ideas to the wiki I set up for the purpose:
> If you know of groups of people who are brainstorming on the
> challenges and opportunities concerning offline use of online
> resources, I would be honored to be introduced to them. Feel free
> to forward this message or to refer people to the websites
> referenced therein.
> Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you,
> although my reply may take weeks, as I am an infrequent
> visitor to the Internet. :)
> Lorraine Lee
> Warren, Michigan, USA
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