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  • Andrius Kulikauskas
    Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly strategize with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat today with Rachel, Ken,
    Message 1 of 15 , Jan 31, 2008
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      Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly strategize
      with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat today with
      Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened to say we might together
      seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to approach
      Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they can "print"
      that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic, either,
      because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies calling
      enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would make.

      I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy leader and as a fund
      organizer - and the basis for any such role (Kenyan based or outside
      based) and the governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
      arrangement is unusual but there is something extremely effective about
      it, too. I suppose it would be good to separate the person (Andrius)
      from the role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the person has that
      role.

      I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature has
      made itself evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
      likewise all around the world who have come together as one family.
      Pamela McLean is collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
      thanks to us all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the skills
      I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
      purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
      I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
      engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
      intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
      extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
      proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
      dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
      Tanzania and with that I started our operations. Later that day I spoke
      with Asif and asked him, what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
      that we collect used cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
      that moment I concluded that probably most people lack a focus on the
      logic of immediate solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
      to take, and I have played with gusto, and best of all, I have shared it
      with everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
      delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
      confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
      days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
      very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
      story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
      actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.

      I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
      own failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the status
      quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
      But others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
      they can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.

      You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like this as a
      paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for by us.
      You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be or will be
      Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a caliber there may not
      yet have been. We are today the Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
      Heaven, where what you believe is what happens.

      I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think we may
      disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with the
      consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or support
      us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys to unlock
      the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a good person
      to pry open those doors.

      I invite us to consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
      twenty year journey to remake our world in the spirit that we live
      today. I encourage us to dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
      an ever more serious picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
      too soon we will lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
      repelled, we will fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
      Lithuania's independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
      that the America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
      lifting my heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
      beat. We have sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
      our Minciu Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.

      I am glad you are in unity. I am excited to hear from your spirit, the
      prayer of your intentions.

      Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have drifted to writing to
      our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on my heart that I would
      share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
      recent letters which are so measured that I see in them your
      investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call, which
      is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your growth
      ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure that.

      I'm still up for a bit if you are around.

      Andrius

      Andrius Kulikauskas
      Minciu Sodas
      http://www.ms.lt
      ms@...
      +370 699 30003
      Vilnius, Lithuania
    • Andrius Kulikauskas
      I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you can understand that it is so strange to live in one s own world, like our lab, and then
      Message 2 of 15 , Jan 31, 2008
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        I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
        can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
        our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
        more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.

        Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
        to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
        your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
        independent thinkers. Andrius

        ----------------------------------------

        I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
        leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
        nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
        estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
        victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
        inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
        not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
        open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
        there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
        Founding Fathers-Mothers-Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
        playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity to
        prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
        national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days, Who
        has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
        available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
        now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen. Knock,
        knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
        Andrius

        --------------------------------------------

        Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
        > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly strategize
        > with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat today with
        > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened to say we might together
        > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to approach
        > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they can "print"
        > that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic, either,
        > because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies calling
        > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would make.
        >
        > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy leader and as a fund
        > organizer - and the basis for any such role (Kenyan based or outside
        > based) and the governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
        > arrangement is unusual but there is something extremely effective about
        > it, too. I suppose it would be good to separate the person (Andrius)
        > from the role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the person has that
        > role.
        >
        > I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature has
        > made itself evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
        > likewise all around the world who have come together as one family.
        > Pamela McLean is collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
        > thanks to us all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the skills
        > I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
        > purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
        > I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
        > engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
        > intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
        > extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
        > proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
        > dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
        > Tanzania and with that I started our operations. Later that day I spoke
        > with Asif and asked him, what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
        > that we collect used cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
        > that moment I concluded that probably most people lack a focus on the
        > logic of immediate solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
        > to take, and I have played with gusto, and best of all, I have shared it
        > with everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
        > delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
        > confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
        > days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
        > very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
        > story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
        > actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
        >
        > I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
        > own failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the status
        > quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
        > But others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
        > they can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
        >
        > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like this as a
        > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for by us.
        > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be or will be
        > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a caliber there may not
        > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
        > Heaven, where what you believe is what happens.
        >
        > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think we may
        > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with the
        > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or support
        > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys to unlock
        > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a good person
        > to pry open those doors.
        >
        > I invite us to consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
        > twenty year journey to remake our world in the spirit that we live
        > today. I encourage us to dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
        > an ever more serious picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
        > too soon we will lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
        > repelled, we will fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
        > Lithuania's independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
        > that the America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
        > lifting my heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
        > beat. We have sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
        > our Minciu Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.
        >
        > I am glad you are in unity. I am excited to hear from your spirit, the
        > prayer of your intentions.
        >
        > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have drifted to writing to
        > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on my heart that I would
        > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
        > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them your
        > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call, which
        > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your growth
        > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure that.
        >
        > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
        >
        > Andrius
        >
        > Andrius Kulikauskas
        > Minciu Sodas
        > http://www.ms.lt
        > ms@...
        > +370 699 30003
        > Vilnius, Lithuania
        >
      • asif.daya@trainerspod.com
        Andrius: I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was stolen from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such. They get stolen
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          Andrius:

          I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was stolen from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such. They get stolen since they have "money" in them. We all have 2-3 cell phones laying around, as we change subscribers. The leadership role was ran by you since you knew the players - I don't know the names of ALL our colleagues and their e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we have money sent via Mama Mikes that could be exchanged for other favors. That key role was taken by you as you put out your e-mail as to where you wanted the money mailed to - so I could not do anything about it. So, I am sorry that my leadership never materialized - and I left it to the outcome of providing suggestions rather than telling people what to do. You also did not allow me to say that it was best if you ran the role since you have the dataset of people and who knows whom and you wanted to collect the monies.
           
          Asif
           

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          From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
          Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:44 PM
          To: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com; fightingpeacefully@yahoogroups.com; learningfromeachother; mendenyo@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

          I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
          can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
          our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
          more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.

          Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
          to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
          your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
          independent thinkers. Andrius

          ------------ --------- --------- --------- -

          I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
          leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
          nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
          estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
          victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
          inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
          not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
          open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
          there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
          Founding Fathers-Mothers- Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
          playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity to
          prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
          national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days, Who
          has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
          available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
          now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen. Knock,
          knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
          Andrius

          ------------ --------- --------- --------- -----

          Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:

          > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I
          would gladly strategize
          > with you regarding the next month or so. We had
          a good chat today with
          > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened
          to say we might together
          > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They
          are interested to approach
          > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because
          I suspect they can "print"
          > that airtime at almost no cost to them and
          no loss to traffic, either,
          > because these are volunteers calling
          volunteers, enemies calling
          > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody
          would make.
          >
          > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy
          leader and as a fund
          > organizer - and the basis for any such role
          (Kenyan based or outside
          > based) and the governance mechanism for our
          pyramid. The current
          > arrangement is unusual but there is something
          extremely effective about
          > it, too. I suppose it would be good to
          separate the person (Andrius)
          > from the role (leader) and then have a
          reasoning why the person has that
          > role.
          >
          > I am delighted
          by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature has
          > made itself
          evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
          > likewise all
          around the world who have come together as one family.
          > Pamela McLean is
          collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
          > thanks to us
          all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the skills
          > I have
          fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
          > purpose
          these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
          > I lived
          with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
          > engaged
          as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
          > intended for
          Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
          > extensive
          knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
          > proceeded, so
          I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
          > dispatched money to
          Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
          > Tanzania and with that I
          started our operations. Later that day I spoke
          > with Asif and asked him,
          what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
          > that we collect used
          cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
          > that moment I concluded
          that probably most people lack a focus on the
          > logic of immediate
          solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
          > to take, and I
          have played with gusto, and best of all, I have shared it
          > with
          everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
          >
          delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
          >
          confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
          >
          days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
          >
          very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
          >
          story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
          >
          actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
          >
          > I am
          blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
          > own
          failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the status
          >
          quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
          > But
          others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
          > they
          can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
          >
          > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet
          like this as a
          > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and
          cared for by us.
          > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be,
          could be or will be
          > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a
          caliber there may not
          > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of
          Kenya, a Kingdom of
          > Heaven, where what you believe is what
          happens.
          >
          > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think
          we may
          > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with
          the
          > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or
          support
          > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys
          to unlock
          > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a
          good person
          > to pry open those doors.
          >
          > I invite us to
          consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
          > twenty year journey
          to remake our world in the spirit that we live
          > today. I encourage us to
          dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
          > an ever more serious
          picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
          > too soon we will
          lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
          > repelled, we will
          fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
          > Lithuania's
          independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
          > that the
          America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
          > lifting my
          heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
          > beat. We have
          sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
          > our Minciu Sodas
          laboratory I will add our drum.
          >
          > I am glad you are in unity. I am
          excited to hear from your spirit, the
          > prayer of your
          intentions.
          >
          > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have
          drifted to writing to
          > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on
          my heart that I would
          > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I
          appreciate your
          > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them
          your
          > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call,
          which
          > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your
          growth
          > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure
          that.
          >
          > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
          >
          >
          Andrius
          >
          > Andrius Kulikauskas
          > Minciu Sodas
          >
          href="http://www.ms.lt">http://www.ms. lt
          >
          href="mailto:ms%40ms.lt">ms@...
          > +370 699 30003
          > Vilnius,
          Lithuania
          >

        • asif.daya@trainerspod.com
          Andrius: I still recommend that we collect cell phones to send as many don t have it and that way the money can be distributed to the poor via these cell
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            Andrius:

            I still recommend that we collect cell phones to send as many don't have it and that way the money can be distributed to the poor via these cell phones. The money is only reaching those that have the money to buy a cell phone  or a computer, but not those that eat out of their huts and raise their own food. Where there is only a child in the family taking care of another child as is evident in HIV/AIDS family homes. These are the people you have missed through your system. Your system although as I have told you has done a lot of good it has not been able to help the absolutely helpless. These people live in shanty towns and miss meals. They are the ones that need the most help. I am not condemning anyone for their work - the work has been excellent, but please do not forget the invisible folks.
             
            Asif
             

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            From: asif.daya@... [mailto:asif.daya@...]
            Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:10 PM
            To: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

            Andrius:

            I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was stolen from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such. They get stolen since they have "money" in them. We all have 2-3 cell phones laying around, as we change subscribers. The leadership role was ran by you since you knew the players - I don't know the names of ALL our colleagues and their e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we have money sent via Mama Mikes that could be exchanged for other favors. That key role was taken by you as you put out your e-mail as to where you wanted the money mailed to - so I could not do anything about it. So, I am sorry that my leadership never materialized - and I left it to the outcome of providing suggestions rather than telling people what to do. You also did not allow me to say that it was best if you ran the role since you have the dataset of people and who knows whom and you wanted to collect the monies.
             
            Asif
             

            Please consider the environment before printing this message.
             

            "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." - Eric Hoffer

             


            From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@ms. lt]
            Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:44 PM
            To: holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com; fightingpeacefully@ yahoogroups. com; learningfromeachoth er; mendenyo@yahoogroup s.com
            Subject: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

            I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
            can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
            our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
            more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.

            Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
            to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
            your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
            independent thinkers. Andrius

            ------------ --------- --------- --------- -

            I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
            leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
            nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
            estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
            victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
            inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
            not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
            open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
            there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
            Founding Fathers-Mothers- Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
            playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity to
            prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
            national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days, Who
            has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
            available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
            now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen. Knock,
            knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
            Andrius

            ------------ --------- --------- --------- -----

            Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:

            > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I
            would gladly strategize
            > with you regarding the next month or so. We had
            a good chat today with
            > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened
            to say we might together
            > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They
            are interested to approach
            > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because
            I suspect they can "print"
            > that airtime at almost no cost to them and
            no loss to traffic, either,
            > because these are volunteers calling
            volunteers, enemies calling
            > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody
            would make.
            >
            > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy
            leader and as a fund
            > organizer - and the basis for any such role
            (Kenyan based or outside
            > based) and the governance mechanism for our
            pyramid. The current
            > arrangement is unusual but there is something
            extremely effective about
            > it, too. I suppose it would be good to
            separate the person (Andrius)
            > from the role (leader) and then have a
            reasoning why the person has that
            > role.
            >
            > I am delighted
            by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature has
            > made itself
            evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
            > likewise all
            around the world who have come together as one family.
            > Pamela McLean is
            collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
            > thanks to us
            all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the skills
            > I have
            fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
            > purpose
            these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
            > I lived
            with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
            > engaged
            as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
            > intended for
            Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
            > extensive
            knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
            > proceeded, so
            I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
            > dispatched money to
            Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
            > Tanzania and with that I
            started our operations. Later that day I spoke
            > with Asif and asked him,
            what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
            > that we collect used
            cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
            > that moment I concluded
            that probably most people lack a focus on the
            > logic of immediate
            solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
            > to take, and I
            have played with gusto, and best of all, I have shared it
            > with
            everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
            >
            delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
            >
            confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
            >
            days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
            >
            very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
            >
            story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
            >
            actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
            >
            > I am
            blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
            > own
            failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the status
            >
            quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
            > But
            others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
            > they
            can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
            >
            > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet
            like this as a
            > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and
            cared for by us.
            > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be,
            could be or will be
            > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a
            caliber there may not
            > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of
            Kenya, a Kingdom of
            > Heaven, where what you believe is what
            happens.
            >
            > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think
            we may
            > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with
            the
            > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or
            support
            > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys
            to unlock
            > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a
            good person
            > to pry open those doors.
            >
            > I invite us to
            consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
            > twenty year journey
            to remake our world in the spirit that we live
            > today. I encourage us to
            dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
            > an ever more serious
            picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
            > too soon we will
            lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
            > repelled, we will
            fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
            > Lithuania's
            independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
            > that the
            America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
            > lifting my
            heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
            > beat. We have
            sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
            > our Minciu Sodas
            laboratory I will add our drum.
            >
            > I am glad you are in unity. I am
            excited to hear from your spirit, the
            > prayer of your
            intentions.
            >
            > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have
            drifted to writing to
            > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on
            my heart that I would
            > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I
            appreciate your
            > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them
            your
            > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call,
            which
            > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your
            growth
            > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure
            that.
            >
            > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
            >
            >
            Andrius
            >
            > Andrius Kulikauskas
            > Minciu Sodas
            >
            href="http://www.ms.lt">http://www.ms. lt
            >
            href="mailto:ms%40ms.lt">ms@...
            > +370 699 30003
            > Vilnius,
            Lithuania
            >

          • Andrius Kulikauskas
            I reply to Asif, but otherwise it s not a very important letter. It s tangential. Andrius ... Asif, Yes I also recommend collecting cell phones. Who would
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              I reply to Asif, but otherwise it's not a very important letter. It's
              tangential. Andrius
              ----------------------------------------------------------------------

              Asif,

              Yes I also recommend collecting cell phones. Who would like to do that?
              It's a great example of an independent project that one can do at their
              own pace, have a wonderful impact one month from now, and not have to
              worry about the immediate day, who is going to be killed or saved.

              Asif, we have been caring about the "invisible folks" since early on.
              Indeed, since we started working with Samwel Kongere. They are the end
              recipients of the help that goes out. We have participants who are
              transporting refugees, feeding them, delivering food to the rural areas.

              I estimate that for about 10,000 USD we have organized and provided some
              resources for at least 100 peacemakers. We have a list of telephones at
              http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HelpKenyans of at least 70 people who
              have understood the point of the Pyramid of Peace and I am sure there
              are more. I imagine each of them as involving perhaps 10 people to whom
              they send airtime or of whom they ask for help for local projects,
              surely this is how it's done in formal or informal organizations like
              REPACTED, Nafsi Afrika Acrobats, Uyoga, ACTWID KONGADZEM. And when you
              count everybody who got a meal or a ride or attended a community theater
              event that got them through the day after they had been traumatized,
              surely it is 10,000 people or more. Surely every person loved radiates
              that out to 10 people or so, and that's reenforced by the news that's
              carried by the radio shows or the people who rode on the roads we freed
              but especially the word-of-mouth networks, maybe we touched 100,000
              people, and the gift of our love grows as we pass it onward. It's a
              tangible percentage of the 300,000 who have been displaced. And it's
              among the most vulnerable that we are reaching if you consider that we
              are organizing road trips to the Kalenjin areas or to Naivasha where we
              are often the first to go, we are their "first impression" of the help
              they might receive, and when you consider that our distribution
              decisions are made locally by people who have always worked with fewer
              resources than they merit.

              Asif, you imply that the money we go is used by our leaders. I have a
              cruel streak by which I give them just enough so they would have the
              strength to give to others. They have placed their lives at risk, have
              lost brothers, have risked their homes, have been robbed of their phones
              and cameras, have neglected care for their own health, have surely eaten
              irregularly because I know that I have. I also have a pious streak
              whereby I don't touch money that isn't meant for me and so typically I
              end up absorbing the Western Union fees or part of them. I am a giver
              of first resort and last resort. Do you think our leaders are any
              different? That is why I have to command them to use a decent portion
              for themselves, and in that sense I am a commander. I can't imagine how
              we could be distributing better and why would anybody listen to you or
              me or anybody on this matter except as we are able to show that by our
              example. I read in your sentences a lack of empathy for me and others.
              If you loved me, then you would command me to get more sleep and find
              more money for myself, and not haunt me with "invisible folks". That's
              why we publish phone numbers, so that nobody is invisible, or at least,
              we keep getting closer to them.

              Here is how I think life works in Kenya, even though I have never been
              there. I believe that when we rally around Samwel Kongere, we lift his
              entire village, even his island. Hundreds of people benefit from his
              good health. If anything should happen to him, then it would be a
              calamity to his region. Surely he has a churchful of people praying for
              him. These are the invisible folks who I imagine.

              By definition, Minciu Sodas serves the independent thinkers, the people
              who are pushed aside by the system, who are the marginalized, the
              isolated, the excluded. Just look around. Who do you think we identify
              with? Samwel was an "unemployed volunteer" when we came to know him. I
              know several for whom that expression spoke a lot about his mind, his
              heart, his soul and his circumstance.

              Asif, I think at the heart of this is that you want some kind of
              credit. I understand that feeling. I give you credit for establishing
              Trainerspod and for dedicating your life to staying connected to Kenya
              and not letting Kenyans be abandoned by the rest of the world. Yet you
              seek credit for an idea. An idea is like a seed, it is dead by itself,
              and has trillions of copies that are basically the same, and most of
              them stay dead. The wind scatters them and who is the one who cares to
              count which exactly was the seed that sprouted? Can't all the seeds
              rejoice together? Isn't the glory to the wind that placed them? I know
              the wish for credit, it is perhaps healthy. I asked Rachel, when you
              went to Naivasha with your team and engaged the Mungiki, did anybody
              else help? Who do we share credit with for our victory? We must be
              sure to credit them. And she said there was nobody else. We know who
              did it: her team, the Mungikis, her local contacts in Naivasha, and all
              of us together. And we know it is true because Dennis rode safely to
              Nairobi when just shortly before he had to consider so many costly
              alternative routes. We didn't raise money for a helicopter ride for
              Dennis, and we didn't raise money to save Ron Odhiambo's house. We
              raised money to talk to the Mungikis and share it with them and their
              "invisible folks". And I sent the story to dozens of journalists in the
              world and in Lithuania, and thousands of people, but it didn't get
              picked up.

              I will share my story how our distribution system got started. We got a
              letter from Jackton Arija that his family was without food. And what
              could we do? My mind churned and churned. The logic was pretty simple
              - 1) we were able to send money to Dennis in Nakuru, 2) I think he had
              mentioned that he was sending airtime to others, 3) which reminded me of
              a post back from 2005 by Earl Mardle:
              http://www.kn.com.au/networks/2005/11/time_is_money.html
              "The latest wrinkles come via Andrius Kulikauskas and the folks at
              Cyfranogi We see the emergence of a mobile derived electronic currency
              in Malawi where mobile phones are already must-have devices." Which is
              to say, "emergency community currency" has been on our minds for some
              time at our laboratory's working group Cyfranogi led by John Rogers.
              http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyfranogi/ John created a currency as
              part of his post-tsunami relief work in Sri Lanka, and Stephen
              DeMeulenaere worked on that as well, and Kevin Parcell has dedicated
              enormous energy to such a concept http://homepage.mac.com/forever.net/
              So it was a natural conclusion 1-2-3 for me to explain to Dennis that
              "hey, Jackton can trade cell phone minutes for food". It's natural but
              as I have found in speaking with Kenyans, it needs to be explained to
              people because most of us, even in Kenya, aren't used to thinking as
              traders. Asif, it's strange for me that you want credit for this idea.
              It's the kind of idea that I was hoping you would lead us with, but I
              had to take the lead myself. So what if you came up with it? Where were you?

              Asif, I spent an hour and a half writing this letter. Is that how you
              want me to spend my time? And many people are spending time reading
              this letter, including people in Kenya. But I hope it gives a glimpse
              of how I think things happen.

              Asif, please give us the best of what you have. Please write about your
              deepest value in life, please write about the quetions you would like to
              find answers to, please write about what you would like to achieve.
              This would give for us a great unity that I know lurks within you and
              that we would benefit from.

              Yesterday I spent all day centered around the chat event which Pamela
              set up. It went very well. Really it happened because of my interest
              to honor your work with Pamela and support that. The Elluminate meeting
              never happened, but we did what we could and it went well. Please
              dedicate yourself to helping me likewise. Or please focus on the heart
              that you have to offer, and cultivating your endeavors from start to
              finish, rather than asking for credit for scattered ideas at a
              laboratory where they are free for the taking, and which aren't exactly
              brilliant, either.

              Asif, please let us know what you would like achieve and how we can help
              you.

              Andrius

              Andrius Kulikauskas
              Minciu Sodas
              http://www.ms.lt
              ms@...
              +370 699 30003
              Vilnius, Lithuania



              asif.daya@... wrote:
              > Andrius:
              >
              > I still recommend that we collect cell phones to send as many don't
              > have it and that way the money can be distributed to the poor via
              > these cell phones. The money is only reaching those that have the
              > money to buy a cell phone or a computer, but not those that eat out
              > of their huts and raise their own food. Where there is only a child in
              > the family taking care of another child as is evident in HIV/AIDS
              > family homes. These are the people you have missed through your
              > system. Your system although as I have told you has done a lot of good
              > it has not been able to help the absolutely helpless. These people
              > live in shanty towns and miss meals. They are the ones that need the
              > most help. I am not condemning anyone for their work - the work has
              > been excellent, but please do not forget the invisible folks.
              >
              > Asif
              >
              > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS
              > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
              > http://www.trainerspod.com/info
              >
              > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
              >
              >
              > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
              > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
              > exists." - Eric Hoffer
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
              > *From:* asif.daya@... [mailto:asif.daya@...]
              > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:10 PM
              > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
              > *Subject:* RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
              >
              > Andrius:
              >
              > I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was stolen
              > from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such. They get
              > stolen since they have "money" in them. We all have 2-3 cell phones
              > laying around, as we change subscribers. The leadership role was ran
              > by you since you knew the players - I don't know the names of ALL our
              > colleagues and their e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we
              > have money sent via Mama Mikes that could be exchanged for other
              > favors. That key role was taken by you as you put out your e-mail as
              > to where you wanted the money mailed to - so I could not do anything
              > about it. So, I am sorry that my leadership never materialized - and I
              > left it to the outcome of providing suggestions rather than telling
              > people what to do. You also did not allow me to say that it was best
              > if you ran the role since you have the dataset of people and who knows
              > whom and you wanted to collect the monies.
              >
              > Asif
              >
              > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS>
              > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
              > <http://www.trainerspod.com/community>
              > http://www.trainerspod.com/info <http://www.trainerspod.com/info>
              >
              > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
              >
              >
              > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
              > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
              > exists." - Eric Hoffer
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
              > *From:* Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
              > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:44 PM
              > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com;
              > fightingpeacefully@yahoogroups.com; learningfromeachother;
              > mendenyo@yahoogroups.com
              > *Subject:* [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
              >
              > I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
              > can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
              > our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
              > more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.
              >
              > Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
              > to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
              > your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
              > independent thinkers. Andrius
              >
              > ----------------------------------------
              >
              > I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
              > leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
              > nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
              > estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
              > victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
              > inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
              > not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
              > open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
              > there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
              > Founding Fathers-Mothers-Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
              > playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity to
              > prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
              > national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days, Who
              > has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
              > available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
              > now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen. Knock,
              > knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
              > Andrius
              >
              > --------------------------------------------
              >
              > Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
              > > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly
              > strategize
              > > with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat today with
              > > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened to say we might
              > together
              > > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to approach
              > > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they can "print"
              > > that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic, either,
              > > because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies calling
              > > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would make.
              > >
              > > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy leader and as a
              > fund
              > > organizer - and the basis for any such role (Kenyan based or outside
              > > based) and the governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
              > > arrangement is unusual but there is something extremely effective about
              > > it, too. I suppose it would be good to separate the person (Andrius)
              > > from the role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the person has
              > that
              > > role.
              > >
              > > I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature
              > has
              > > made itself evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
              > > likewise all around the world who have come together as one family.
              > > Pamela McLean is collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
              > > thanks to us all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the
              > skills
              > > I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
              > > purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
              > > I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
              > > engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
              > > intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
              > > extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
              > > proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
              > > dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
              > > Tanzania and with that I started our operations. Later that day I spoke
              > > with Asif and asked him, what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
              > > that we collect used cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
              > > that moment I concluded that probably most people lack a focus on the
              > > logic of immediate solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
              > > to take, and I have played with gusto, and best of all, I have
              > shared it
              > > with everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
              > > delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
              > > confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
              > > days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
              > > very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
              > > story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
              > > actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
              > >
              > > I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
              > > own failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the
              > status
              > > quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
              > > But others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
              > > they can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
              > >
              > > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like this as a
              > > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for by us.
              > > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be or
              > will be
              > > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a caliber there may
              > not
              > > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
              > > Heaven, where what you believe is what happens.
              > >
              > > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think we may
              > > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with the
              > > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or support
              > > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys to unlock
              > > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a good person
              > > to pry open those doors.
              > >
              > > I invite us to consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
              > > twenty year journey to remake our world in the spirit that we live
              > > today. I encourage us to dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
              > > an ever more serious picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
              > > too soon we will lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
              > > repelled, we will fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
              > > Lithuania's independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
              > > that the America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
              > > lifting my heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
              > > beat. We have sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
              > > our Minciu Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.
              > >
              > > I am glad you are in unity. I am excited to hear from your spirit, the
              > > prayer of your intentions.
              > >
              > > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have drifted to writing to
              > > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on my heart that I would
              > > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
              > > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them your
              > > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call, which
              > > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your growth
              > > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure that.
              > >
              > > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
              > >
              > > Andrius
              > >
              > > Andrius Kulikauskas
              > > Minciu Sodas
              > > http://www.ms.lt <http://www.ms.lt>
              > > ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms.lt>
              > > +370 699 30003
              > > Vilnius, Lithuania
              > >
              >
              >
            • Theresa Bakalarz
              Dear All, I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my eyes. TOMORROW my flight is going from Vienna (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to
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                Dear All,

                I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my eyes. TOMORROW my flight is going from Vienna (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to Kisumu.

                I am going to stay near Bondo like I told you before.

                My problem now is that my parents dont want me to go. I have planned lots of things, was collecting money (also for Tom) and have lots of t-shirts, pencils and everything. (Beside that I am only 20 years old)

                PLEASE! COULD SOMEONE OF YOU WRITE DOWN very clear how situation is in Kisumu, Bondo or Nyang´oma. My parents are fearing that one day Kikuyu are going to attack Nyanza district, and coming to smaller villages. I dont believe in that but my parents are really worrying. THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THE FUTURE! WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS? ESCALATION? PEACE?
                They think they´re going to loose me.
                I dont know what to tell them anymore. They can just see this horrible things on TV how people run on the streets with machetes and think I am going to stay exactly there.

                Bondo is different. I am just worrying about the future. But I believe that things are becoming better soon.

                BUT NOW I JUST WANT TO COME TO KENYA and I am just desperate because I do this against the will of my whole Family. My sister was asking me, if I am crazy and how I can do this to my parents. That they have to worry a whole month.

                BUT THEY DONT SEE HOW THE SITUATION IS IN BONDO!

                Please! Please help me that my parents cool down. I know it can always happen something! But I am never on the roads, I am taking a flight Nairobi-Kisumu.
                I JUST NEED A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW!

                I run out of my energy. I got very weak in the last time.
                I dont know what I shall do now. I´m helpless.

                Yours Theresa
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              • Hezekiah Nyaranga
                Dear Theresa, My name is Hezekiah and I work at Reach-out childrens centre just afew kilometers out of town.I stay in kisumu town though i comute evryday to
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                  Dear Theresa,
                  My name is Hezekiah and I work at Reach-out childrens
                  centre just afew kilometers out of town.I stay in
                  kisumu town though i comute evryday to the
                  community,As concerns to the situation now in
                  kisumu,it is so much unpredictable and it would be
                  wrong for me to say calm in this case.The situation
                  changes ev erday depending on what has happened
                  especially in the political line.
                  I have friends in America that support my organization
                  and they were suppose to be here this friday,one of
                  them is already in Uganda now and 3 just arrived in
                  south Africa this morning ,it is painful but i had to
                  get all of the cancell their trips to kenya because of
                  what happened in kisumu yesterday,after the death of
                  another Member of parliament in Eldoret.
                  I knows Bondo my be calm but i strongly object you
                  taking the trip now, i recomend that you delay it even
                  fo 2 weeks and study the situation.
                  Hezekaih
                  --- Theresa Bakalarz <t.bakalarz@...> wrote:

                  > Dear All,
                  >
                  > I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my
                  > eyes. TOMORROW my flight is going from Vienna
                  > (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to
                  > Kisumu.
                  >
                  > I am going to stay near Bondo like I told you
                  > before.
                  >
                  > My problem now is that my parents dont want me to
                  > go. I have planned lots of things, was collecting
                  > money (also for Tom) and have lots of t-shirts,
                  > pencils and everything. (Beside that I am only 20
                  > years old)
                  >
                  > PLEASE! COULD SOMEONE OF YOU WRITE DOWN very clear
                  > how situation is in Kisumu, Bondo or Nyang´oma. My
                  > parents are fearing that one day Kikuyu are going to
                  > attack Nyanza district, and coming to smaller
                  > villages. I dont believe in that but my parents are
                  > really worrying. THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THE FUTURE!
                  > WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS? ESCALATION? PEACE?
                  > They think they´re going to loose me.
                  > I dont know what to tell them anymore. They can just
                  > see this horrible things on TV how people run on the
                  > streets with machetes and think I am going to stay
                  > exactly there.
                  >
                  > Bondo is different. I am just worrying about the
                  > future. But I believe that things are becoming
                  > better soon.
                  >
                  > BUT NOW I JUST WANT TO COME TO KENYA and I am just
                  > desperate because I do this against the will of my
                  > whole Family. My sister was asking me, if I am crazy
                  > and how I can do this to my parents. That they have
                  > to worry a whole month.
                  >
                  > BUT THEY DONT SEE HOW THE SITUATION IS IN BONDO!
                  >
                  > Please! Please help me that my parents cool down. I
                  > know it can always happen something! But I am never
                  > on the roads, I am taking a flight Nairobi-Kisumu.
                  > I JUST NEED A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW!
                  >
                  > I run out of my energy. I got very weak in the last
                  > time.
                  > I dont know what I shall do now. I´m helpless.
                  >
                  > Yours Theresa
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                • Janet Feldman
                  Dear Theresa, Hezekiah, and Tom, Thanks to Hez and Tom for their feedback to you, Theresa, and I think it would be best if you would wait too. There have not
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                    Dear Theresa, Hezekiah, and Tom,

                    Thanks to Hez and Tom for their feedback to you, Theresa, and I think it
                    would be best if you would wait too. There have not been wholesale attacks
                    on foreigners, but there have been some, so it might be best to wait until
                    things calm down.

                    In the meantime, you can still do fundraising and friendraising for our
                    members in Kisumu--including Tom and Hez--
                    as money, supplies, and friends who will be aware and supportive of our
                    members and work are invaluable. If you have collected even a small amount
                    of funds, you might consider sending it.

                    In fact, the funds that would have been spent on a plane ticket--if you
                    could consider that--would probably send all of the deaf children Tom is
                    caring for back to school. As it is now, a number of them cannot go, and it
                    would literally and figuratively mean the world to them.

                    Another thing that Tom and I discussed this morning is that you might do
                    some research abt orgs (international, national, even local to you, as they
                    might like a "buddy" in Kisumu) which could help Deaf Impact Ministry. What
                    country are you in?

                    For everyone, Hezekiah has long been seeking just $750 to stock a pharmacy
                    (already started) which will help a whole community gain access to
                    vitally-needed medications. This will also provide him with a livelihood,
                    which will help to keep the pharmacy going too. It's a small amount for a
                    big return: a sustainable enterprise for sustaining the life and health of
                    hundreds of people.

                    Thanks much for your note, and please do not be disheartened. You will get
                    to Kenya someday soon--hopefully this year--and in the meantime, you can
                    still do a world of good, while maintaining your safety and relieving your
                    parents' minds. That's called a "win-win-win" solution :)).

                    With blessings and all best wishes, Janet



                    ----- Original Message -----
                    From: "Hezekiah Nyaranga" <reachout5@...>
                    To: <holistichelping@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:46 AM
                    Subject: Re: [holistichelping] PLEASE help me coming to kenya


                    > Dear Theresa,
                    > My name is Hezekiah and I work at Reach-out childrens
                    > centre just afew kilometers out of town.I stay in
                    > kisumu town though i comute evryday to the
                    > community,As concerns to the situation now in
                    > kisumu,it is so much unpredictable and it would be
                    > wrong for me to say calm in this case.The situation
                    > changes ev erday depending on what has happened
                    > especially in the political line.
                    > I have friends in America that support my organization
                    > and they were suppose to be here this friday,one of
                    > them is already in Uganda now and 3 just arrived in
                    > south Africa this morning ,it is painful but i had to
                    > get all of the cancell their trips to kenya because of
                    > what happened in kisumu yesterday,after the death of
                    > another Member of parliament in Eldoret.
                    > I knows Bondo my be calm but i strongly object you
                    > taking the trip now, i recomend that you delay it even
                    > fo 2 weeks and study the situation.
                    > Hezekaih
                    > --- Theresa Bakalarz <t.bakalarz@...> wrote:
                    >
                    >> Dear All,
                    >>
                    >> I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my
                    >> eyes. TOMORROW my flight is going from Vienna
                    >> (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to
                    >> Kisumu.
                    >>
                    >> I am going to stay near Bondo like I told you
                    >> before.
                    >>
                    >> My problem now is that my parents dont want me to
                    >> go. I have planned lots of things, was collecting
                    >> money (also for Tom) and have lots of t-shirts,
                    >> pencils and everything. (Beside that I am only 20
                    >> years old)
                    >>
                    >> PLEASE! COULD SOMEONE OF YOU WRITE DOWN very clear
                    >> how situation is in Kisumu, Bondo or Nyang´oma. My
                    >> parents are fearing that one day Kikuyu are going to
                    >> attack Nyanza district, and coming to smaller
                    >> villages. I dont believe in that but my parents are
                    >> really worrying. THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THE FUTURE!
                    >> WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS? ESCALATION? PEACE?
                    >> They think they´re going to loose me.
                    >> I dont know what to tell them anymore. They can just
                    >> see this horrible things on TV how people run on the
                    >> streets with machetes and think I am going to stay
                    >> exactly there.
                    >>
                    >> Bondo is different. I am just worrying about the
                    >> future. But I believe that things are becoming
                    >> better soon.
                    >>
                    >> BUT NOW I JUST WANT TO COME TO KENYA and I am just
                    >> desperate because I do this against the will of my
                    >> whole Family. My sister was asking me, if I am crazy
                    >> and how I can do this to my parents. That they have
                    >> to worry a whole month.
                    >>
                    >> BUT THEY DONT SEE HOW THE SITUATION IS IN BONDO!
                    >>
                    >> Please! Please help me that my parents cool down. I
                    >> know it can always happen something! But I am never
                    >> on the roads, I am taking a flight Nairobi-Kisumu.
                    >> I JUST NEED A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW!
                    >>
                    >> I run out of my energy. I got very weak in the last
                    >> time.
                    >> I dont know what I shall do now. I´m helpless.
                    >>
                    >> Yours Theresa
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                  • asif.daya@trainerspod.com
                    Andrius: This communication could have been done privately, but you did not want it, and besides I found you speaking ill of me in a section to Janet, I could
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                      Andrius:

                      This communication could have been done privately, but you did not want it, and besides I found you speaking ill of me in a section to Janet, I could NOT find that e-mail that it was taken out from, hence, it must have been a private e-mail.
                       
                      I have my own business to run and can not do your leadership for you. But when you say that you had to take it on your own since I provided no ideas of worth, that is when one becomes defensive of what they have contributed, and not for credit as you indicate. That must be made very clear. I have dealt with organizations in Kenya and it does not take the amount of money you are spilling in - you have no idea of the cost of living in Kenya.....and what it takes to encourage people to get things done there. So I would stop as soon as possible to compare leadership styles.......yes, you have one, and I have a different perspective. I have and always will credit your organization - that is the people that make up the organization for the fine work they have done. I did not take on this project since I have matters going on from TrainersPod. Hence, I hate being the subject of your e-mail where you describe what a wonderful job you have done but at the expense of cutting me down. If you want to pat yourself on the back - go ahead - but don't try to cut me down in the process. As for not offering Elluminate - it was a matter of the contract being made available - and that is between me and Pamela.
                       
                      Asif
                       

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                      From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
                      Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:12 AM
                      To: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

                      I reply to Asif, but otherwise it's not a very important letter. It's
                      tangential. Andrius
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                      Asif,

                      Yes I also recommend collecting cell phones. Who would like to do that?
                      It's a great example of an independent project that one can do at their
                      own pace, have a wonderful impact one month from now, and not have to
                      worry about the immediate day, who is going to be killed or saved.

                      Asif, we have been caring about the "invisible folks" since early on.
                      Indeed, since we started working with Samwel Kongere. They are the end
                      recipients of the help that goes out. We have participants who are
                      transporting refugees, feeding them, delivering food to the rural areas.

                      I estimate that for about 10,000 USD we have organized and provided some
                      resources for at least 100 peacemakers. We have a list of telephones at
                      http://www.worknets .org/wiki. cgi?HelpKenyans of at least 70 people who
                      have understood the point of the Pyramid of Peace and I am sure there
                      are more. I imagine each of them as involving perhaps 10 people to whom
                      they send airtime or of whom they ask for help for local projects,
                      surely this is how it's done in formal or informal organizations like
                      REPACTED, Nafsi Afrika Acrobats, Uyoga, ACTWID KONGADZEM. And when you
                      count everybody who got a meal or a ride or attended a community theater
                      event that got them through the day after they had been traumatized,
                      surely it is 10,000 people or more. Surely every person loved radiates
                      that out to 10 people or so, and that's reenforced by the news that's
                      carried by the radio shows or the people who rode on the roads we freed
                      but especially the word-of-mouth networks, maybe we touched 100,000
                      people, and the gift of our love grows as we pass it onward. It's a
                      tangible percentage of the 300,000 who have been displaced. And it's
                      among the most vulnerable that we are reaching if you consider that we
                      are organizing road trips to the Kalenjin areas or to Naivasha where we
                      are often the first to go, we are their "first impression" of the help
                      they might receive, and when you consider that our distribution
                      decisions are made locally by people who have always worked with fewer
                      resources than they merit.

                      Asif, you imply that the money we go is used by our leaders. I have a
                      cruel streak by which I give them just enough so they would have the
                      strength to give to others. They have placed their lives at risk, have
                      lost brothers, have risked their homes, have been robbed of their phones
                      and cameras, have neglected care for their own health, have surely eaten
                      irregularly because I know that I have. I also have a pious streak
                      whereby I don't touch money that isn't meant for me and so typically I
                      end up absorbing the Western Union fees or part of them. I am a giver
                      of first resort and last resort. Do you think our leaders are any
                      different? That is why I have to command them to use a decent portion
                      for themselves, and in that sense I am a commander. I can't imagine how
                      we could be distributing better and why would anybody listen to you or
                      me or anybody on this matter except as we are able to show that by our
                      example. I read in your sentences a lack of empathy for me and others.
                      If you loved me, then you would command me to get more sleep and find
                      more money for myself, and not haunt me with "invisible folks". That's
                      why we publish phone numbers, so that nobody is invisible, or at least,
                      we keep getting closer to them.

                      Here is how I think life works in Kenya, even though I have never been
                      there. I believe that when we rally around Samwel Kongere, we lift his
                      entire village, even his island. Hundreds of people benefit from his
                      good health. If anything should happen to him, then it would be a
                      calamity to his region. Surely he has a churchful of people praying for
                      him. These are the invisible folks who I imagine.

                      By definition, Minciu Sodas serves the independent thinkers, the people
                      who are pushed aside by the system, who are the marginalized, the
                      isolated, the excluded. Just look around. Who do you think we identify
                      with? Samwel was an "unemployed volunteer" when we came to know him. I
                      know several for whom that expression spoke a lot about his mind, his
                      heart, his soul and his circumstance.

                      Asif, I think at the heart of this is that you want some kind of
                      credit. I understand that feeling. I give you credit for establishing
                      Trainerspod and for dedicating your life to staying connected to Kenya
                      and not letting Kenyans be abandoned by the rest of the world. Yet you
                      seek credit for an idea. An idea is like a seed, it is dead by itself,
                      and has trillions of copies that are basically the same, and most of
                      them stay dead. The wind scatters them and who is the one who cares to
                      count which exactly was the seed that sprouted? Can't all the seeds
                      rejoice together? Isn't the glory to the wind that placed them? I know
                      the wish for credit, it is perhaps healthy. I asked Rachel, when you
                      went to Naivasha with your team and engaged the Mungiki, did anybody
                      else help? Who do we share credit with for our victory? We must be
                      sure to credit them. And she said there was nobody else. We know who
                      did it: her team, the Mungikis, her local contacts in Naivasha, and all
                      of us together. And we know it is true because Dennis rode safely to
                      Nairobi when just shortly before he had to consider so many costly
                      alternative routes. We didn't raise money for a helicopter ride for
                      Dennis, and we didn't raise money to save Ron Odhiambo's house. We
                      raised money to talk to the Mungikis and share it with them and their
                      "invisible folks". And I sent the story to dozens of journalists in the
                      world and in Lithuania, and thousands of people, but it didn't get
                      picked up.

                      I will share my story how our distribution system got started. We got a
                      letter from Jackton Arija that his family was without food. And what
                      could we do? My mind churned and churned. The logic was pretty simple
                      - 1) we were able to send money to Dennis in Nakuru, 2) I think he had
                      mentioned that he was sending airtime to others, 3) which reminded me of
                      a post back from 2005 by Earl Mardle:
                      http://www.kn. com.au/networks/ 2005/11/time_ is_money. html
                      "The latest wrinkles come via Andrius Kulikauskas and the folks at
                      Cyfranogi We see the emergence of a mobile derived electronic currency
                      in Malawi where mobile phones are already must-have devices." Which is
                      to say, "emergency community currency" has been on our minds for some
                      time at our laboratory's working group Cyfranogi led by John Rogers.
                      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cyfranogi/ John created a currency as
                      part of his post-tsunami relief work in Sri Lanka, and Stephen
                      DeMeulenaere worked on that as well, and Kevin Parcell has dedicated
                      enormous energy to such a concept http://homepage. mac.com/forever. net/
                      So it was a natural conclusion 1-2-3 for me to explain to Dennis that
                      "hey, Jackton can trade cell phone minutes for food". It's natural but
                      as I have found in speaking with Kenyans, it needs to be explained to
                      people because most of us, even in Kenya, aren't used to thinking as
                      traders. Asif, it's strange for me that you want credit for this idea.
                      It's the kind of idea that I was hoping you would lead us with, but I
                      had to take the lead myself. So what if you came up with it? Where were you?

                      Asif, I spent an hour and a half writing this letter. Is that how you
                      want me to spend my time? And many people are spending time reading
                      this letter, including people in Kenya. But I hope it gives a glimpse
                      of how I think things happen.

                      Asif, please give us the best of what you have. Please write about your
                      deepest value in life, please write about the quetions you would like to
                      find answers to, please write about what you would like to achieve.
                      This would give for us a great unity that I know lurks within you and
                      that we would benefit from.

                      Yesterday I spent all day centered around the chat event which Pamela
                      set up. It went very well. Really it happened because of my interest
                      to honor your work with Pamela and support that. The Elluminate meeting
                      never happened, but we did what we could and it went well. Please
                      dedicate yourself to helping me likewise. Or please focus on the heart
                      that you have to offer, and cultivating your endeavors from start to
                      finish, rather than asking for credit for scattered ideas at a
                      laboratory where they are free for the taking, and which aren't exactly
                      brilliant, either.

                      Asif, please let us know what you would like achieve and how we can help
                      you.

                      Andrius

                      Andrius Kulikauskas
                      Minciu Sodas
                      http://www.ms. lt
                      ms@...
                      +370 699 30003
                      Vilnius, Lithuania

                      asif.daya@trainersp od.com wrote:

                      > Andrius:
                      >
                      > I still recommend that we collect cell
                      phones to send as many don't
                      > have it and that way the money can be
                      distributed to the poor via
                      > these cell phones. The money is only
                      reaching those that have the
                      > money to buy a cell phone or a computer,
                      but not those that eat out
                      > of their huts and raise their own food.
                      Where there is only a child in
                      > the family taking care of another child
                      as is evident in HIV/AIDS
                      > family homes. These are the people you have
                      missed through your
                      > system. Your system although as I have told you has
                      done a lot of good
                      > it has not been able to help the absolutely
                      helpless. These people
                      > live in shanty towns and miss meals. They are
                      the ones that need the
                      > most help. I am not condemning anyone for their
                      work - the work has
                      > been excellent, but please do not forget the
                      invisible folks.
                      >
                      > Asif
                      >
                      >
                      href="http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS">http://www.trainers pod.com/CMS
                      >
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                      > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that
                      no longer
                      > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
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                      >
                      *From:* asif.daya@trainersp od.com [mailto:asif.daya@trainersp od.com]
                      >
                      *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:10 PM
                      > *To:*
                      href="mailto:holistichelping%40yahoogroups.com">holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com
                      >
                      *Subject:* RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                      >
                      > Andrius:
                      >
                      > I suggested we send cell phones
                      since we had heard that one was stolen
                      > from our Kenyan colleague and I
                      was hearing stories of such. They get
                      > stolen since they have "money" in
                      them. We all have 2-3 cell phones
                      > laying around, as we change
                      subscribers. The leadership role was ran
                      > by you since you knew the
                      players - I don't know the names of ALL our
                      > colleagues and their
                      e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we
                      > have money sent via Mama
                      Mikes that could be exchanged for other
                      > favors. That key role was taken
                      by you as you put out your e-mail as
                      > to where you wanted the money
                      mailed to - so I could not do anything
                      > about it. So, I am sorry that my
                      leadership never materialized - and I
                      > left it to the outcome of
                      providing suggestions rather than telling
                      > people what to do. You also
                      did not allow me to say that it was best
                      > if you ran the role since you
                      have the dataset of people and who knows
                      > whom and you wanted to collect
                      the monies.
                      >
                      > Asif
                      >
                      >
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                      >
                      *From:* Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
                      > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31,
                      2008 6:44 PM
                      > *To:*
                      href="mailto:holistichelping%40yahoogroups.com">holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com;
                      >
                      href="mailto:fightingpeacefully%40yahoogroups.com">fightingpeacefully@ yahoogroups. com; learningfromeachoth er;
                      >
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                      >
                      *Subject:* [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                      >
                      >
                      I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
                      >
                      can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
                      >
                      our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
                      >
                      more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.
                      >
                      >
                      Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
                      >
                      to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
                      >
                      your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
                      >
                      independent thinkers. Andrius
                      >
                      >
                      ------------ --------- --------- --------- -
                      >
                      > I
                      share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
                      >
                      leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
                      >
                      nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
                      >
                      estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
                      >
                      victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
                      >
                      inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
                      >
                      not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
                      >
                      open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
                      >
                      there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
                      >
                      Founding Fathers-Mothers- Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
                      > playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity
                      to
                      > prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize
                      a
                      > national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days,
                      Who
                      > has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was
                      publicly
                      > available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe
                      not
                      > now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen.
                      Knock,
                      > knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to
                      ours.
                      > Andrius
                      >
                      >
                      ------------ --------- --------- --------- -----
                      >
                      >
                      Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
                      > > Janet if you are around in the next hour
                      or so I would gladly
                      > strategize
                      > > with you regarding the
                      next month or so. We had a good chat today with
                      > > Rachel, Ken, David
                      present and I was emboldened to say we might
                      > together
                      > > seek
                      $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to approach
                      > >
                      Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they can "print"
                      > > that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic,
                      either,
                      > > because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies
                      calling
                      > > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would
                      make.
                      > >
                      > > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a
                      strategy leader and as a
                      > fund
                      > > organizer - and the basis
                      for any such role (Kenyan based or outside
                      > > based) and the
                      governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
                      > > arrangement is
                      unusual but there is something extremely effective about
                      > > it, too. I
                      suppose it would be good to separate the person (Andrius)
                      > > from the
                      role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the person has
                      > that
                      > > role.
                      > >
                      > > I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both
                      those whose great stature
                      > has
                      > > made itself evident, and
                      those who have risen to the occassion, and
                      > > likewise all around the
                      world who have come together as one family.
                      > > Pamela McLean is
                      collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
                      > > thanks to us
                      all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the
                      > skills
                      > > I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
                      > > purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and
                      when
                      > > I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging
                      gangs. I feel
                      > > engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that
                      I originally
                      > > intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout
                      because of his
                      > > extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up
                      and he had not
                      > > proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself.
                      I immediately
                      > > dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and
                      Kiyavilo Msekwa in
                      > > Tanzania and with that I started our operations.
                      Later that day I spoke
                      > > with Asif and asked him, what can we do to
                      help? and his suggestion was
                      > > that we collect used cellphones in the
                      US and ship them to Kenya. At
                      > > that moment I concluded that probably
                      most people lack a focus on the
                      > > logic of immediate solutions. I
                      think I have taken a role that was open
                      > > to take, and I have played
                      with gusto, and best of all, I have
                      > shared it
                      > > with
                      everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
                      > >
                      delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
                      > > confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every
                      few
                      > > days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources -
                      usually our
                      > > very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one
                      with all. My
                      > > story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I
                      led openly. I am
                      > > actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a
                      good one.
                      > >
                      > > I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have
                      achieved great victories. My
                      > > own failure or challenge is to engage
                      the real enemy which is the
                      > status
                      > > quo. I can see and you
                      can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
                      > > But others can't see
                      them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
                      > > they can't see the
                      road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
                      > >
                      > >
                      You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like this as a
                      > > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for by
                      us.
                      > > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be
                      or
                      > will be
                      > > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many -
                      of a caliber there may
                      > not
                      > > yet have been. We are today the
                      Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
                      > > Heaven, where what you believe is
                      what happens.
                      > >
                      > > I don't think the Mungikis will
                      disappoint us. I think we may
                      > > disappoint them. I think that the
                      status quo can't be happy with the
                      > > consequences of our work. I
                      don't think they will fund us or support
                      > > us, but I wish they would.
                      I don't have the skill or the keys to unlock
                      > > the many locks. I
                      don't even know if it is possible for a good person
                      > > to pry open
                      those doors.
                      > >
                      > > I invite us to consider this as the first
                      steps on the ground of a
                      > > twenty year journey to remake our world in
                      the spirit that we live
                      > > today. I encourage us to dare to play an
                      ever more serious game, draw
                      > > an ever more serious picture, because
                      we can. I am sorry to think that
                      > > too soon we will lose, we will hit
                      a wall or a ceiling, we will be
                      > > repelled, we will fall away. I am
                      sorry to know that the good spirit of
                      > > Lithuania's independence
                      movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
                      > > that the America I grew
                      up in is a distant place. I thank you for
                      > > lifting my heart and I
                      listen to you for the pace at which I should
                      > > beat. We have
                      sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
                      > > our Minciu
                      Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.
                      > >
                      > > I am glad you
                      are in unity. I am excited to hear from your spirit, the
                      > > prayer of
                      your intentions.
                      > >
                      > > Janet, I have started by writing to
                      you, but have drifted to writing to
                      > > our Kenyans and all of us, as
                      that is what's on my heart that I would
                      > > share with you, and care to
                      hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
                      > > recent letters which are so
                      measured that I see in them your
                      > > investigatory mind. That is
                      another, longstanding reason to call, which
                      > > is to encourage you to
                      take a deeper step and engage us in your growth
                      > > ongoing. I think in
                      these days we've all matured to treasure that.
                      > >
                      > > I'm
                      still up for a bit if you are around.
                      > >
                      > > Andrius
                      > >
                      > > Andrius Kulikauskas
                      > > Minciu Sodas
                      > >
                      href="http://www.ms.lt">http://www.ms. lt <http://www.ms. lt>
                      > >
                      href="mailto:ms%40ms.lt">ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms. lt>
                      > > +370 699 30003
                      > > Vilnius, Lithuania
                      > >
                      >
                      >

                    • Theresa Bakalarz
                      Dear All, first, thank you for your answers and your advices! I have been to Kenya before. In summer I was working at the Nyang´oma (bondo) mission in the
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                        Dear All,

                        first, thank you for your answers and your advices! I have been to Kenya before. In summer I was working at the Nyang´oma (bondo) mission in the Orphanage.
                        I have seen many parts of Kenya and I know the people. If I didnt know Kenya, I dont know if I had this big with to come. I am now just thinking about "my kenyan family" in Nyang´oma. The Orphans and my friends who work there in the mission.
                        A friend from there said, situation there is fine. Nothing happend in Bondo for a long time. And there were only demonstrations.
                        At the moment I dont really know what to do. I have got one month. In one month I have to be back here (Austria) and ready to go back to university! (Studying african science)

                        I still cant decide. I dont know. Maybe I am going to decide at the airport if I go or not.

                        Thank you all, Theresa
                        -------- Original-Nachricht --------
                        > Datum: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:40:45 +0100
                        > Von: Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...>
                        > An: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                        > Betreff: [holistichelping] Re: PLEASE help me coming to kenya

                        > Janet, Thank you for your advice not to go. Janet is smart.
                        > Also, I would like our leaders to learn to take many small risks and
                        > avoid big ones.
                        > Let's avoid being heroes.
                        > However, Theresa I do think it's a very good experience if you can go to
                        > Kenya. I think if your plans can be flexible, then you can get
                        > enormously valuable practice in taking small risks. If you can't be
                        > flexible, then you shouldn't go. You can direct your Kenyan work from
                        > Nairobi and then go to Kisumu depending on the situation. Or go to
                        > Mombasa. There are parts of Kenya that are completely safe. Am I correct?
                        > Andrius
                        >
                        > Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
                        > > Theresa, I am not in a position to advise you on the safety of
                        > > particular areas in Kenya. However, I do want to say that your travel -
                        > > should you decide to travel - is important to us. Nairobi is calm.
                        > > Kisumu is not so far away. Should you need to stay in Nairobi we will
                        > > help you get to Kisumu safely as conditions allow. I will let others
                        > > explain better the details but I think if you want to it is possible for
                        > > you to go and be of great help.
                        > >
                        > > My understanding of the general situation is that you should expect
                        > > episodes of turmoil bubbling up but the violence is becoming less
                        > > excessive, killings are being replaced by evictions, and overall things
                        > > are calming down. I expect you will stay with people who can help you
                        > > judge the risks and stay safe. You are a young woman so I advise extra
                        > > care and caution and adaptation. For example, in Naivasha, Rachel was
                        > > instructed to change her jeans for a dress and scarf and she obeyed.
                        > > Thank you to Hezekiah Nyaranga for advice which you should listen to
                        > > instead of me, and most of all your hosts, but I encourage more advice.
                        > > Andrius Kulikauskas, Commander-in-Chief, Pyramid of Peace.
                        > > http://www.pyramidofpeace.net
                        > >
                        > > Theresa Bakalarz wrote:
                        > >
                        > >> Dear All,
                        > >>
                        > >> I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my eyes. TOMORROW my
                        > flight is going from Vienna (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to
                        > Kisumu.
                        > >>
                        > >> I am going to stay near Bondo like I told you before.
                        > >>
                        > >> My problem now is that my parents dont want me to go. I have planned
                        > lots of things, was collecting money (also for Tom) and have lots of
                        > t-shirts, pencils and everything. (Beside that I am only 20 years old)
                        > >>
                        > >> PLEASE! COULD SOMEONE OF YOU WRITE DOWN very clear how situation is in
                        > Kisumu, Bondo or Nyang´oma. My parents are fearing that one day Kikuyu are
                        > going to attack Nyanza district, and coming to smaller villages. I dont
                        > believe in that but my parents are really worrying. THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT
                        > THE FUTURE! WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS? ESCALATION? PEACE?
                        > >> They think they´re going to loose me.
                        > >> I dont know what to tell them anymore. They can just see this horrible
                        > things on TV how people run on the streets with machetes and think I am
                        > going to stay exactly there.
                        > >>
                        > >> Bondo is different. I am just worrying about the future. But I believe
                        > that things are becoming better soon.
                        > >>
                        > >> BUT NOW I JUST WANT TO COME TO KENYA and I am just desperate because I
                        > do this against the will of my whole Family. My sister was asking me, if I
                        > am crazy and how I can do this to my parents. That they have to worry a
                        > whole month.
                        > >>
                        > >> BUT THEY DONT SEE HOW THE SITUATION IS IN BONDO!
                        > >>
                        > >> Please! Please help me that my parents cool down. I know it can always
                        > happen something! But I am never on the roads, I am taking a flight
                        > Nairobi-Kisumu.
                        > >> I JUST NEED A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW!
                        > >>
                        > >> I run out of my energy. I got very weak in the last time.
                        > >> I dont know what I shall do now. I´m helpless.
                        > >>
                        > >> Yours Theresa
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > > --------------------------------------------------------
                        > >
                        > > Dear Theresa,
                        > > My name is Hezekiah and I work at Reach-out childrens
                        > > centre just afew kilometers out of town.I stay in
                        > > kisumu town though i comute evryday to the
                        > > community,As concerns to the situation now in
                        > > kisumu,it is so much unpredictable and it would be
                        > > wrong for me to say calm in this case.The situation
                        > > changes ev erday depending on what has happened
                        > > especially in the political line.
                        > > I have friends in America that support my organization
                        > > and they were suppose to be here this friday,one of
                        > > them is already in Uganda now and 3 just arrived in
                        > > south Africa this morning ,it is painful but i had to
                        > > get all of the cancell their trips to kenya because of
                        > > what happened in kisumu yesterday,after the death of
                        > > another Member of parliament in Eldoret.
                        > > I knows Bondo my be calm but i strongly object you
                        > > taking the trip now, i recomend that you delay it even
                        > > fo 2 weeks and study the situation.
                        > > Hezekaih
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HolisticHelping
                        > >
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                      • Andrius Kulikauskas
                        Theresa, I am not in a position to advise you on the safety of particular areas in Kenya. However, I do want to say that your travel - should you decide to
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                          Theresa, I am not in a position to advise you on the safety of
                          particular areas in Kenya. However, I do want to say that your travel -
                          should you decide to travel - is important to us. Nairobi is calm.
                          Kisumu is not so far away. Should you need to stay in Nairobi we will
                          help you get to Kisumu safely as conditions allow. I will let others
                          explain better the details but I think if you want to it is possible for
                          you to go and be of great help.

                          My understanding of the general situation is that you should expect
                          episodes of turmoil bubbling up but the violence is becoming less
                          excessive, killings are being replaced by evictions, and overall things
                          are calming down. I expect you will stay with people who can help you
                          judge the risks and stay safe. You are a young woman so I advise extra
                          care and caution and adaptation. For example, in Naivasha, Rachel was
                          instructed to change her jeans for a dress and scarf and she obeyed.
                          Thank you to Hezekiah Nyaranga for advice which you should listen to
                          instead of me, and most of all your hosts, but I encourage more advice.
                          Andrius Kulikauskas, Commander-in-Chief, Pyramid of Peace.
                          http://www.pyramidofpeace.net

                          Theresa Bakalarz wrote:
                          > Dear All,
                          >
                          > I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my eyes. TOMORROW my flight is going from Vienna (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to Kisumu.
                          >
                          > I am going to stay near Bondo like I told you before.
                          >
                          > My problem now is that my parents dont want me to go. I have planned lots of things, was collecting money (also for Tom) and have lots of t-shirts, pencils and everything. (Beside that I am only 20 years old)
                          >
                          > PLEASE! COULD SOMEONE OF YOU WRITE DOWN very clear how situation is in Kisumu, Bondo or Nyang´oma. My parents are fearing that one day Kikuyu are going to attack Nyanza district, and coming to smaller villages. I dont believe in that but my parents are really worrying. THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THE FUTURE! WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS? ESCALATION? PEACE?
                          > They think they´re going to loose me.
                          > I dont know what to tell them anymore. They can just see this horrible things on TV how people run on the streets with machetes and think I am going to stay exactly there.
                          >
                          > Bondo is different. I am just worrying about the future. But I believe that things are becoming better soon.
                          >
                          > BUT NOW I JUST WANT TO COME TO KENYA and I am just desperate because I do this against the will of my whole Family. My sister was asking me, if I am crazy and how I can do this to my parents. That they have to worry a whole month.
                          >
                          > BUT THEY DONT SEE HOW THE SITUATION IS IN BONDO!
                          >
                          > Please! Please help me that my parents cool down. I know it can always happen something! But I am never on the roads, I am taking a flight Nairobi-Kisumu.
                          > I JUST NEED A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW!
                          >
                          > I run out of my energy. I got very weak in the last time.
                          > I dont know what I shall do now. I´m helpless.
                          >
                          > Yours Theresa
                          >
                          --------------------------------------------------------

                          Dear Theresa,
                          My name is Hezekiah and I work at Reach-out childrens
                          centre just afew kilometers out of town.I stay in
                          kisumu town though i comute evryday to the
                          community,As concerns to the situation now in
                          kisumu,it is so much unpredictable and it would be
                          wrong for me to say calm in this case.The situation
                          changes ev erday depending on what has happened
                          especially in the political line.
                          I have friends in America that support my organization
                          and they were suppose to be here this friday,one of
                          them is already in Uganda now and 3 just arrived in
                          south Africa this morning ,it is painful but i had to
                          get all of the cancell their trips to kenya because of
                          what happened in kisumu yesterday,after the death of
                          another Member of parliament in Eldoret.
                          I knows Bondo my be calm but i strongly object you
                          taking the trip now, i recomend that you delay it even
                          fo 2 weeks and study the situation.
                          Hezekaih
                        • Andrius Kulikauskas
                          Janet, Thank you for your advice not to go. Janet is smart. Also, I would like our leaders to learn to take many small risks and avoid big ones. Let s avoid
                          Message 12 of 15 , Feb 1, 2008
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                            Janet, Thank you for your advice not to go. Janet is smart.
                            Also, I would like our leaders to learn to take many small risks and
                            avoid big ones.
                            Let's avoid being heroes.
                            However, Theresa I do think it's a very good experience if you can go to
                            Kenya. I think if your plans can be flexible, then you can get
                            enormously valuable practice in taking small risks. If you can't be
                            flexible, then you shouldn't go. You can direct your Kenyan work from
                            Nairobi and then go to Kisumu depending on the situation. Or go to
                            Mombasa. There are parts of Kenya that are completely safe. Am I correct?
                            Andrius

                            Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
                            > Theresa, I am not in a position to advise you on the safety of
                            > particular areas in Kenya. However, I do want to say that your travel -
                            > should you decide to travel - is important to us. Nairobi is calm.
                            > Kisumu is not so far away. Should you need to stay in Nairobi we will
                            > help you get to Kisumu safely as conditions allow. I will let others
                            > explain better the details but I think if you want to it is possible for
                            > you to go and be of great help.
                            >
                            > My understanding of the general situation is that you should expect
                            > episodes of turmoil bubbling up but the violence is becoming less
                            > excessive, killings are being replaced by evictions, and overall things
                            > are calming down. I expect you will stay with people who can help you
                            > judge the risks and stay safe. You are a young woman so I advise extra
                            > care and caution and adaptation. For example, in Naivasha, Rachel was
                            > instructed to change her jeans for a dress and scarf and she obeyed.
                            > Thank you to Hezekiah Nyaranga for advice which you should listen to
                            > instead of me, and most of all your hosts, but I encourage more advice.
                            > Andrius Kulikauskas, Commander-in-Chief, Pyramid of Peace.
                            > http://www.pyramidofpeace.net
                            >
                            > Theresa Bakalarz wrote:
                            >
                            >> Dear All,
                            >>
                            >> I´m writing very desperate and with tears in my eyes. TOMORROW my flight is going from Vienna (Austria) to Nairobi. After that I have a flight to Kisumu.
                            >>
                            >> I am going to stay near Bondo like I told you before.
                            >>
                            >> My problem now is that my parents dont want me to go. I have planned lots of things, was collecting money (also for Tom) and have lots of t-shirts, pencils and everything. (Beside that I am only 20 years old)
                            >>
                            >> PLEASE! COULD SOMEONE OF YOU WRITE DOWN very clear how situation is in Kisumu, Bondo or Nyang´oma. My parents are fearing that one day Kikuyu are going to attack Nyanza district, and coming to smaller villages. I dont believe in that but my parents are really worrying. THEY ARE WORRYING ABOUT THE FUTURE! WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TWO WEEKS? ESCALATION? PEACE?
                            >> They think they´re going to loose me.
                            >> I dont know what to tell them anymore. They can just see this horrible things on TV how people run on the streets with machetes and think I am going to stay exactly there.
                            >>
                            >> Bondo is different. I am just worrying about the future. But I believe that things are becoming better soon.
                            >>
                            >> BUT NOW I JUST WANT TO COME TO KENYA and I am just desperate because I do this against the will of my whole Family. My sister was asking me, if I am crazy and how I can do this to my parents. That they have to worry a whole month.
                            >>
                            >> BUT THEY DONT SEE HOW THE SITUATION IS IN BONDO!
                            >>
                            >> Please! Please help me that my parents cool down. I know it can always happen something! But I am never on the roads, I am taking a flight Nairobi-Kisumu.
                            >> I JUST NEED A COMMENT ABOUT THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW!
                            >>
                            >> I run out of my energy. I got very weak in the last time.
                            >> I dont know what I shall do now. I´m helpless.
                            >>
                            >> Yours Theresa
                            >>
                            >>
                            > --------------------------------------------------------
                            >
                            > Dear Theresa,
                            > My name is Hezekiah and I work at Reach-out childrens
                            > centre just afew kilometers out of town.I stay in
                            > kisumu town though i comute evryday to the
                            > community,As concerns to the situation now in
                            > kisumu,it is so much unpredictable and it would be
                            > wrong for me to say calm in this case.The situation
                            > changes ev erday depending on what has happened
                            > especially in the political line.
                            > I have friends in America that support my organization
                            > and they were suppose to be here this friday,one of
                            > them is already in Uganda now and 3 just arrived in
                            > south Africa this morning ,it is painful but i had to
                            > get all of the cancell their trips to kenya because of
                            > what happened in kisumu yesterday,after the death of
                            > another Member of parliament in Eldoret.
                            > I knows Bondo my be calm but i strongly object you
                            > taking the trip now, i recomend that you delay it even
                            > fo 2 weeks and study the situation.
                            > Hezekaih
                            >
                            >
                            > http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HolisticHelping
                            >
                            > Please note our rule: Each letter sent to the Holistic Helping group enters the PUBLIC DOMAIN unless it explicitly states otherwise. Thank you! http://www.ethicalpublicdomain.org
                            >
                            >
                            > Yahoo! Groups Links
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                          • Janet Feldman
                            Dear Asif, Andrius, and All, This email exchange has somewhat strayed too--as did the letter Andrius wrote to me--but I regard what is being said here as
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                              Dear Asif, Andrius, and All,
                               
                              This email exchange has somewhat "strayed" too--as did the letter Andrius wrote to me--but I regard what is being said here as highly relevant and important, though for a different time, when urgencies have somewhat eased. It may be that a different context would be good too, at least for some of the discussion.
                               
                              Some of the issues being brought up I can relate to myself. We do need to have some discussions about how our mutual work, time, energy, and caring are framed, encouraged, tended, utilized, and acknowledged. Some of the structural issues are crucial to our future as a large and growing entity, one which encompasses both individual focus and group endeavors.
                               
                              As a woman and as a social activist who has long dreamed of and worked in "alternative" settings, I find I am challenged by some of the way our work is framed and structured. There are other concerns and considerations too, and it would be good to air them.
                               
                              In a strange but human way, some of what we are feeling and experiencing is akin to what is happening in Kenya. This is the territory of conflict, which can yield "opportunity" as well as "risk".
                               
                              Thanks very much for the wonderful work everyone is doing, and blessings to you all! Janet
                              ----- Original Message -----
                              Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:57 AM
                              Subject: RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

                              Andrius:

                              This communication could have been done privately, but you did not want it, and besides I found you speaking ill of me in a section to Janet, I could NOT find that e-mail that it was taken out from, hence, it must have been a private e-mail.
                               
                              I have my own business to run and can not do your leadership for you. But when you say that you had to take it on your own since I provided no ideas of worth, that is when one becomes defensive of what they have contributed, and not for credit as you indicate. That must be made very clear. I have dealt with organizations in Kenya and it does not take the amount of money you are spilling in - you have no idea of the cost of living in Kenya.....and what it takes to encourage people to get things done there. So I would stop as soon as possible to compare leadership styles.......yes, you have one, and I have a different perspective. I have and always will credit your organization - that is the people that make up the organization for the fine work they have done. I did not take on this project since I have matters going on from TrainersPod. Hence, I hate being the subject of your e-mail where you describe what a wonderful job you have done but at the expense of cutting me down. If you want to pat yourself on the back - go ahead - but don't try to cut me down in the process. As for not offering Elluminate - it was a matter of the contract being made available - and that is between me and Pamela.
                               
                              Asif
                               

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                              "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." - Eric Hoffer

                               


                              From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
                              Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:12 AM
                              To: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                              Subject: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

                              I reply to Asif, but otherwise it's not a very important letter. It's
                              tangential. Andrius
                              ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

                              Asif,

                              Yes I also recommend collecting cell phones. Who would like to do that?
                              It's a great example of an independent project that one can do at their
                              own pace, have a wonderful impact one month from now, and not have to
                              worry about the immediate day, who is going to be killed or saved.

                              Asif, we have been caring about the "invisible folks" since early on.
                              Indeed, since we started working with Samwel Kongere. They are the end
                              recipients of the help that goes out. We have participants who are
                              transporting refugees, feeding them, delivering food to the rural areas.

                              I estimate that for about 10,000 USD we have organized and provided some
                              resources for at least 100 peacemakers. We have a list of telephones at
                              http://www.worknets .org/wiki. cgi?HelpKenyans of at least 70 people who
                              have understood the point of the Pyramid of Peace and I am sure there
                              are more. I imagine each of them as involving perhaps 10 people to whom
                              they send airtime or of whom they ask for help for local projects,
                              surely this is how it's done in formal or informal organizations like
                              REPACTED, Nafsi Afrika Acrobats, Uyoga, ACTWID KONGADZEM. And when you
                              count everybody who got a meal or a ride or attended a community theater
                              event that got them through the day after they had been traumatized,
                              surely it is 10,000 people or more. Surely every person loved radiates
                              that out to 10 people or so, and that's reenforced by the news that's
                              carried by the radio shows or the people who rode on the roads we freed
                              but especially the word-of-mouth networks, maybe we touched 100,000
                              people, and the gift of our love grows as we pass it onward. It's a
                              tangible percentage of the 300,000 who have been displaced. And it's
                              among the most vulnerable that we are reaching if you consider that we
                              are organizing road trips to the Kalenjin areas or to Naivasha where we
                              are often the first to go, we are their "first impression" of the help
                              they might receive, and when you consider that our distribution
                              decisions are made locally by people who have always worked with fewer
                              resources than they merit.

                              Asif, you imply that the money we go is used by our leaders. I have a
                              cruel streak by which I give them just enough so they would have the
                              strength to give to others. They have placed their lives at risk, have
                              lost brothers, have risked their homes, have been robbed of their phones
                              and cameras, have neglected care for their own health, have surely eaten
                              irregularly because I know that I have. I also have a pious streak
                              whereby I don't touch money that isn't meant for me and so typically I
                              end up absorbing the Western Union fees or part of them. I am a giver
                              of first resort and last resort. Do you think our leaders are any
                              different? That is why I have to command them to use a decent portion
                              for themselves, and in that sense I am a commander. I can't imagine how
                              we could be distributing better and why would anybody listen to you or
                              me or anybody on this matter except as we are able to show that by our
                              example. I read in your sentences a lack of empathy for me and others.
                              If you loved me, then you would command me to get more sleep and find
                              more money for myself, and not haunt me with "invisible folks". That's
                              why we publish phone numbers, so that nobody is invisible, or at least,
                              we keep getting closer to them.

                              Here is how I think life works in Kenya, even though I have never been
                              there. I believe that when we rally around Samwel Kongere, we lift his
                              entire village, even his island. Hundreds of people benefit from his
                              good health. If anything should happen to him, then it would be a
                              calamity to his region. Surely he has a churchful of people praying for
                              him. These are the invisible folks who I imagine.

                              By definition, Minciu Sodas serves the independent thinkers, the people
                              who are pushed aside by the system, who are the marginalized, the
                              isolated, the excluded. Just look around. Who do you think we identify
                              with? Samwel was an "unemployed volunteer" when we came to know him. I
                              know several for whom that expression spoke a lot about his mind, his
                              heart, his soul and his circumstance.

                              Asif, I think at the heart of this is that you want some kind of
                              credit. I understand that feeling. I give you credit for establishing
                              Trainerspod and for dedicating your life to staying connected to Kenya
                              and not letting Kenyans be abandoned by the rest of the world. Yet you
                              seek credit for an idea. An idea is like a seed, it is dead by itself,
                              and has trillions of copies that are basically the same, and most of
                              them stay dead. The wind scatters them and who is the one who cares to
                              count which exactly was the seed that sprouted? Can't all the seeds
                              rejoice together? Isn't the glory to the wind that placed them? I know
                              the wish for credit, it is perhaps healthy. I asked Rachel, when you
                              went to Naivasha with your team and engaged the Mungiki, did anybody
                              else help? Who do we share credit with for our victory? We must be
                              sure to credit them. And she said there was nobody else. We know who
                              did it: her team, the Mungikis, her local contacts in Naivasha, and all
                              of us together. And we know it is true because Dennis rode safely to
                              Nairobi when just shortly before he had to consider so many costly
                              alternative routes. We didn't raise money for a helicopter ride for
                              Dennis, and we didn't raise money to save Ron Odhiambo's house. We
                              raised money to talk to the Mungikis and share it with them and their
                              "invisible folks". And I sent the story to dozens of journalists in the
                              world and in Lithuania, and thousands of people, but it didn't get
                              picked up.

                              I will share my story how our distribution system got started. We got a
                              letter from Jackton Arija that his family was without food. And what
                              could we do? My mind churned and churned. The logic was pretty simple
                              - 1) we were able to send money to Dennis in Nakuru, 2) I think he had
                              mentioned that he was sending airtime to others, 3) which reminded me of
                              a post back from 2005 by Earl Mardle:
                              http://www.kn. com.au/networks/ 2005/11/time_ is_money. html
                              "The latest wrinkles come via Andrius Kulikauskas and the folks at
                              Cyfranogi We see the emergence of a mobile derived electronic currency
                              in Malawi where mobile phones are already must-have devices." Which is
                              to say, "emergency community currency" has been on our minds for some
                              time at our laboratory's working group Cyfranogi led by John Rogers.
                              http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cyfranogi/ John created a currency as
                              part of his post-tsunami relief work in Sri Lanka, and Stephen
                              DeMeulenaere worked on that as well, and Kevin Parcell has dedicated
                              enormous energy to such a concept http://homepage. mac.com/forever. net/
                              So it was a natural conclusion 1-2-3 for me to explain to Dennis that
                              "hey, Jackton can trade cell phone minutes for food". It's natural but
                              as I have found in speaking with Kenyans, it needs to be explained to
                              people because most of us, even in Kenya, aren't used to thinking as
                              traders. Asif, it's strange for me that you want credit for this idea.
                              It's the kind of idea that I was hoping you would lead us with, but I
                              had to take the lead myself. So what if you came up with it? Where were you?

                              Asif, I spent an hour and a half writing this letter. Is that how you
                              want me to spend my time? And many people are spending time reading
                              this letter, including people in Kenya. But I hope it gives a glimpse
                              of how I think things happen.

                              Asif, please give us the best of what you have. Please write about your
                              deepest value in life, please write about the quetions you would like to
                              find answers to, please write about what you would like to achieve.
                              This would give for us a great unity that I know lurks within you and
                              that we would benefit from.

                              Yesterday I spent all day centered around the chat event which Pamela
                              set up. It went very well. Really it happened because of my interest
                              to honor your work with Pamela and support that. The Elluminate meeting
                              never happened, but we did what we could and it went well. Please
                              dedicate yourself to helping me likewise. Or please focus on the heart
                              that you have to offer, and cultivating your endeavors from start to
                              finish, rather than asking for credit for scattered ideas at a
                              laboratory where they are free for the taking, and which aren't exactly
                              brilliant, either.

                              Asif, please let us know what you would like achieve and how we can help
                              you.

                              Andrius

                              Andrius Kulikauskas
                              Minciu Sodas
                              http://www.ms. lt
                              ms@...
                              +370 699 30003
                              Vilnius, Lithuania

                              asif.daya@trainersp od.com wrote:
                              > Andrius:
                              >
                              > I still recommend that we collect cell phones to send as many don't
                              > have it and that way the money can be distributed to the poor via
                              > these cell phones. The money is only reaching those that have the
                              > money to buy a cell phone or a computer, but not those that eat out
                              > of their huts and raise their own food. Where there is only a child in
                              > the family taking care of another child as is evident in HIV/AIDS
                              > family homes. These are the people you have missed through your
                              > system. Your system although as I have told you has done a lot of good
                              > it has not been able to help the absolutely helpless. These people
                              > live in shanty towns and miss meals. They are the ones that need the
                              > most help. I am not condemning anyone for their work - the work has
                              > been excellent, but please do not forget the invisible folks.
                              >
                              > Asif
                              >
                              > http://www.trainers pod.com/CMS
                              > http://www.trainers pod.com/communit y
                              > http://www.trainers pod.com/info
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                              >
                              > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
                              > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                              > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                              > *From:* asif.daya@trainersp od.com [mailto:asif.daya@trainersp od.com]
                              > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:10 PM
                              > *To:* holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com
                              > *Subject:* RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                              >
                              > Andrius:
                              >
                              > I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was stolen
                              > from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such. They get
                              > stolen since they have "money" in them. We all have 2-3 cell phones
                              > laying around, as we change subscribers. The leadership role was ran
                              > by you since you knew the players - I don't know the names of ALL our
                              > colleagues and their e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we
                              > have money sent via Mama Mikes that could be exchanged for other
                              > favors. That key role was taken by you as you put out your e-mail as
                              > to where you wanted the money mailed to - so I could not do anything
                              > about it. So, I am sorry that my leadership never materialized - and I
                              > left it to the outcome of providing suggestions rather than telling
                              > people what to do. You also did not allow me to say that it was best
                              > if you ran the role since you have the dataset of people and who knows
                              > whom and you wanted to collect the monies.
                              >
                              > Asif
                              >
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                              > http://www.trainers pod.com/communit y
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                              >
                              > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
                              > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                              > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                              >
                              >
                              >
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                              > *From:* Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
                              > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:44 PM
                              > *To:* holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com;
                              > fightingpeacefully@ yahoogroups. com; learningfromeachoth er;
                              > mendenyo@yahoogroup s.com
                              > *Subject:* [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                              >
                              > I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
                              > can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
                              > our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
                              > more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.
                              >
                              > Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
                              > to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
                              > your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
                              > independent thinkers. Andrius
                              >
                              > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -
                              >
                              > I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
                              > leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
                              > nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
                              > estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
                              > victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
                              > inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
                              > not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
                              > open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
                              > there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
                              > Founding Fathers-Mothers- Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
                              > playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity to
                              > prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
                              > national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days, Who
                              > has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
                              > available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
                              > now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen. Knock,
                              > knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
                              > Andrius
                              >
                              > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -----
                              >
                              > Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
                              > > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly
                              > strategize
                              > > with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat today with
                              > > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened to say we might
                              > together
                              > > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to approach
                              > > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they can "print"
                              > > that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic, either,
                              > > because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies calling
                              > > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would make.
                              > >
                              > > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy leader and as a
                              > fund
                              > > organizer - and the basis for any such role (Kenyan based or outside
                              > > based) and the governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
                              > > arrangement is unusual but there is something extremely effective about
                              > > it, too. I suppose it would be good to separate the person (Andrius)
                              > > from the role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the person has
                              > that
                              > > role.
                              > >
                              > > I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature
                              > has
                              > > made itself evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
                              > > likewise all around the world who have come together as one family.
                              > > Pamela McLean is collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
                              > > thanks to us all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the
                              > skills
                              > > I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
                              > > purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
                              > > I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
                              > > engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
                              > > intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
                              > > extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
                              > > proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
                              > > dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
                              > > Tanzania and with that I started our operations. Later that day I spoke
                              > > with Asif and asked him, what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
                              > > that we collect used cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
                              > > that moment I concluded that probably most people lack a focus on the
                              > > logic of immediate solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
                              > > to take, and I have played with gusto, and best of all, I have
                              > shared it
                              > > with everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
                              > > delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
                              > > confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
                              > > days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
                              > > very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
                              > > story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
                              > > actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
                              > >
                              > > I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
                              > > own failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the
                              > status
                              > > quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
                              > > But others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
                              > > they can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
                              > >
                              > > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like this as a
                              > > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for by us.
                              > > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be or
                              > will be
                              > > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a caliber there may
                              > not
                              > > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
                              > > Heaven, where what you believe is what happens.
                              > >
                              > > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think we may
                              > > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with the
                              > > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or support
                              > > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys to unlock
                              > > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a good person
                              > > to pry open those doors.
                              > >
                              > > I invite us to consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
                              > > twenty year journey to remake our world in the spirit that we live
                              > > today. I encourage us to dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
                              > > an ever more serious picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
                              > > too soon we will lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
                              > > repelled, we will fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
                              > > Lithuania's independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
                              > > that the America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
                              > > lifting my heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
                              > > beat. We have sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
                              > > our Minciu Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.
                              > >
                              > > I am glad you are in unity. I am excited to hear from your spirit, the
                              > > prayer of your intentions.
                              > >
                              > > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have drifted to writing to
                              > > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on my heart that I would
                              > > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
                              > > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them your
                              > > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call, which
                              > > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your growth
                              > > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure that.
                              > >
                              > > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
                              > >
                              > > Andrius
                              > >
                              > > Andrius Kulikauskas
                              > > Minciu Sodas
                              > > http://www.ms. lt <http://www.ms. lt>
                              > > ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms. lt>
                              > > +370 699 30003
                              > > Vilnius, Lithuania
                              > >
                              >
                              >

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                              Janet: You are right. This should be aired after the conflict. I was just angered by the statement that cut me down and had to respond. It was part of a long
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                                Janet:

                                You are right. This should be aired after the conflict. I was just angered by the statement that cut me down and had to respond. It was part of a long e-mail buried within. Anyways - there is always tension when a large group works and people are doing their best to assist and it's all going so fast that it gets lost in the noise. We have been having an extra huge amount of e-mail to contend with and there is a lot going on - all for the betterment of Kenya and it's people. This organization has done a lot of good for Kenyans.....and I am moved by that.
                                We at TrainersPod are doing other projects in Kenya and they involve using local NGOs and Churches etc. e.g We provide them with the latest news so that they are aware where they need to go to get people that are needy and using my connections at Hospitals and Pharmacies to get them the right help. So our focus is very different. It was like when I sent connections of a Hospital and a Pharmacy that Sam could get to.....although he choose a different route. That's what TrainersPod is involved in.
                                 
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                                From: Janet Feldman [mailto:kaippg@...]
                                Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 3:19 PM
                                To: holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: [holistichelping] Asif, Andrius, All: Important Issues, Different Timing

                                Dear Asif, Andrius, and All,
                                 
                                This email exchange has somewhat "strayed" too--as did the letter Andrius wrote to me--but I regard what is being said here as highly relevant and important, though for a different time, when urgencies have somewhat eased. It may be that a different context would be good too, at least for some of the discussion.
                                 
                                Some of the issues being brought up I can relate to myself. We do need to have some discussions about how our mutual work, time, energy, and caring are framed, encouraged, tended, utilized, and acknowledged. Some of the structural issues are crucial to our future as a large and growing entity, one which encompasses both individual focus and group endeavors.
                                 
                                As a woman and as a social activist who has long dreamed of and worked in "alternative" settings, I find I am challenged by some of the way our work is framed and structured. There are other concerns and considerations too, and it would be good to air them.
                                 
                                In a strange but human way, some of what we are feeling and experiencing is akin to what is happening in Kenya. This is the territory of conflict, which can yield "opportunity" as well as "risk".
                                 
                                Thanks very much for the wonderful work everyone is doing, and blessings to you all! Janet
                                ----- Original Message -----
                                Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:57 AM
                                Subject: RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

                                Andrius:

                                This communication could have been done privately, but you did not want it, and besides I found you speaking ill of me in a section to Janet, I could NOT find that e-mail that it was taken out from, hence, it must have been a private e-mail.
                                 
                                I have my own business to run and can not do your leadership for you. But when you say that you had to take it on your own since I provided no ideas of worth, that is when one becomes defensive of what they have contributed, and not for credit as you indicate. That must be made very clear. I have dealt with organizations in Kenya and it does not take the amount of money you are spilling in - you have no idea of the cost of living in Kenya.....and what it takes to encourage people to get things done there. So I would stop as soon as possible to compare leadership styles...... .yes, you have one, and I have a different perspective. I have and always will credit your organization - that is the people that make up the organization for the fine work they have done. I did not take on this project since I have matters going on from TrainersPod. Hence, I hate being the subject of your e-mail where you describe what a wonderful job you have done but at the expense of cutting me down. If you want to pat yourself on the back - go ahead - but don't try to cut me down in the process. As for not offering Elluminate - it was a matter of the contract being made available - and that is between me and Pamela.
                                 
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                                From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@ms. lt]
                                Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:12 AM
                                To: holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com
                                Subject: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story

                                I reply to Asif, but otherwise it's not a very important letter. It's
                                tangential. Andrius
                                ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

                                Asif,

                                Yes I also recommend collecting cell phones. Who would like to do that?
                                It's a great example of an independent project that one can do at their
                                own pace, have a wonderful impact one month from now, and not have to
                                worry about the immediate day, who is going to be killed or saved.

                                Asif, we have been caring about the "invisible folks" since early on.
                                Indeed, since we started working with Samwel Kongere. They are the end
                                recipients of the help that goes out. We have participants who are
                                transporting refugees, feeding them, delivering food to the rural areas.

                                I estimate that for about 10,000 USD we have organized and provided some
                                resources for at least 100 peacemakers. We have a list of telephones at
                                http://www.worknets .org/wiki. cgi?HelpKenyans of at least 70 people who
                                have understood the point of the Pyramid of Peace and I am sure there
                                are more. I imagine each of them as involving perhaps 10 people to whom
                                they send airtime or of whom they ask for help for local projects,
                                surely this is how it's done in formal or informal organizations like
                                REPACTED, Nafsi Afrika Acrobats, Uyoga, ACTWID KONGADZEM. And when you
                                count everybody who got a meal or a ride or attended a community theater
                                event that got them through the day after they had been traumatized,
                                surely it is 10,000 people or more. Surely every person loved radiates
                                that out to 10 people or so, and that's reenforced by the news that's
                                carried by the radio shows or the people who rode on the roads we freed
                                but especially the word-of-mouth networks, maybe we touched 100,000
                                people, and the gift of our love grows as we pass it onward. It's a
                                tangible percentage of the 300,000 who have been displaced. And it's
                                among the most vulnerable that we are reaching if you consider that we
                                are organizing road trips to the Kalenjin areas or to Naivasha where we
                                are often the first to go, we are their "first impression" of the help
                                they might receive, and when you consider that our distribution
                                decisions are made locally by people who have always worked with fewer
                                resources than they merit.

                                Asif, you imply that the money we go is used by our leaders. I have a
                                cruel streak by which I give them just enough so they would have the
                                strength to give to others. They have placed their lives at risk, have
                                lost brothers, have risked their homes, have been robbed of their phones
                                and cameras, have neglected care for their own health, have surely eaten
                                irregularly because I know that I have. I also have a pious streak
                                whereby I don't touch money that isn't meant for me and so typically I
                                end up absorbing the Western Union fees or part of them. I am a giver
                                of first resort and last resort. Do you think our leaders are any
                                different? That is why I have to command them to use a decent portion
                                for themselves, and in that sense I am a commander. I can't imagine how
                                we could be distributing better and why would anybody listen to you or
                                me or anybody on this matter except as we are able to show that by our
                                example. I read in your sentences a lack of empathy for me and others.
                                If you loved me, then you would command me to get more sleep and find
                                more money for myself, and not haunt me with "invisible folks". That's
                                why we publish phone numbers, so that nobody is invisible, or at least,
                                we keep getting closer to them.

                                Here is how I think life works in Kenya, even though I have never been
                                there. I believe that when we rally around Samwel Kongere, we lift his
                                entire village, even his island. Hundreds of people benefit from his
                                good health. If anything should happen to him, then it would be a
                                calamity to his region. Surely he has a churchful of people praying for
                                him. These are the invisible folks who I imagine.

                                By definition, Minciu Sodas serves the independent thinkers, the people
                                who are pushed aside by the system, who are the marginalized, the
                                isolated, the excluded. Just look around. Who do you think we identify
                                with? Samwel was an "unemployed volunteer" when we came to know him. I
                                know several for whom that expression spoke a lot about his mind, his
                                heart, his soul and his circumstance.

                                Asif, I think at the heart of this is that you want some kind of
                                credit. I understand that feeling. I give you credit for establishing
                                Trainerspod and for dedicating your life to staying connected to Kenya
                                and not letting Kenyans be abandoned by the rest of the world. Yet you
                                seek credit for an idea. An idea is like a seed, it is dead by itself,
                                and has trillions of copies that are basically the same, and most of
                                them stay dead. The wind scatters them and who is the one who cares to
                                count which exactly was the seed that sprouted? Can't all the seeds
                                rejoice together? Isn't the glory to the wind that placed them? I know
                                the wish for credit, it is perhaps healthy. I asked Rachel, when you
                                went to Naivasha with your team and engaged the Mungiki, did anybody
                                else help? Who do we share credit with for our victory? We must be
                                sure to credit them. And she said there was nobody else. We know who
                                did it: her team, the Mungikis, her local contacts in Naivasha, and all
                                of us together. And we know it is true because Dennis rode safely to
                                Nairobi when just shortly before he had to consider so many costly
                                alternative routes. We didn't raise money for a helicopter ride for
                                Dennis, and we didn't raise money to save Ron Odhiambo's house. We
                                raised money to talk to the Mungikis and share it with them and their
                                "invisible folks". And I sent the story to dozens of journalists in the
                                world and in Lithuania, and thousands of people, but it didn't get
                                picked up.

                                I will share my story how our distribution system got started. We got a
                                letter from Jackton Arija that his family was without food. And what
                                could we do? My mind churned and churned. The logic was pretty simple
                                - 1) we were able to send money to Dennis in Nakuru, 2) I think he had
                                mentioned that he was sending airtime to others, 3) which reminded me of
                                a post back from 2005 by Earl Mardle:
                                http://www.kn. com.au/networks/ 2005/11/time_ is_money. html
                                "The latest wrinkles come via Andrius Kulikauskas and the folks at
                                Cyfranogi We see the emergence of a mobile derived electronic currency
                                in Malawi where mobile phones are already must-have devices." Which is
                                to say, "emergency community currency" has been on our minds for some
                                time at our laboratory's working group Cyfranogi led by John Rogers.
                                http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/cyfranogi/ John created a currency as
                                part of his post-tsunami relief work in Sri Lanka, and Stephen
                                DeMeulenaere worked on that as well, and Kevin Parcell has dedicated
                                enormous energy to such a concept http://homepage. mac.com/forever. net/
                                So it was a natural conclusion 1-2-3 for me to explain to Dennis that
                                "hey, Jackton can trade cell phone minutes for food". It's natural but
                                as I have found in speaking with Kenyans, it needs to be explained to
                                people because most of us, even in Kenya, aren't used to thinking as
                                traders. Asif, it's strange for me that you want credit for this idea.
                                It's the kind of idea that I was hoping you would lead us with, but I
                                had to take the lead myself. So what if you came up with it? Where were you?

                                Asif, I spent an hour and a half writing this letter. Is that how you
                                want me to spend my time? And many people are spending time reading
                                this letter, including people in Kenya. But I hope it gives a glimpse
                                of how I think things happen.

                                Asif, please give us the best of what you have. Please write about your
                                deepest value in life, please write about the quetions you would like to
                                find answers to, please write about what you would like to achieve.
                                This would give for us a great unity that I know lurks within you and
                                that we would benefit from.

                                Yesterday I spent all day centered around the chat event which Pamela
                                set up. It went very well. Really it happened because of my interest
                                to honor your work with Pamela and support that. The Elluminate meeting
                                never happened, but we did what we could and it went well. Please
                                dedicate yourself to helping me likewise. Or please focus on the heart
                                that you have to offer, and cultivating your endeavors from start to
                                finish, rather than asking for credit for scattered ideas at a
                                laboratory where they are free for the taking, and which aren't exactly
                                brilliant, either.

                                Asif, please let us know what you would like achieve and how we can help
                                you.

                                Andrius

                                Andrius Kulikauskas
                                Minciu Sodas
                                http://www.ms. lt
                                ms@...
                                +370 699 30003
                                Vilnius, Lithuania

                                asif.daya@trainersp od.com wrote:
                                > Andrius:
                                >
                                > I still recommend that we collect cell phones to send as many don't
                                > have it and that way the money can be distributed to the poor via
                                > these cell phones. The money is only reaching those that have the
                                > money to buy a cell phone or a computer, but not those that eat out
                                > of their huts and raise their own food. Where there is only a child in
                                > the family taking care of another child as is evident in HIV/AIDS
                                > family homes. These are the people you have missed through your
                                > system. Your system although as I have told you has done a lot of good
                                > it has not been able to help the absolutely helpless. These people
                                > live in shanty towns and miss meals. They are the ones that need the
                                > most help. I am not condemning anyone for their work - the work has
                                > been excellent, but please do not forget the invisible folks.
                                >
                                > Asif
                                >
                                > http://www.trainers pod.com/CMS
                                > http://www.trainers pod.com/communit y
                                > http://www.trainers pod.com/info
                                >
                                > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
                                >
                                >
                                > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
                                > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                                > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                                > *From:* asif.daya@trainersp od.com [mailto:asif.daya@trainersp od.com]
                                > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:10 PM
                                > *To:* holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com
                                > *Subject:* RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                                >
                                > Andrius:
                                >
                                > I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was stolen
                                > from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such. They get
                                > stolen since they have "money" in them. We all have 2-3 cell phones
                                > laying around, as we change subscribers. The leadership role was ran
                                > by you since you knew the players - I don't know the names of ALL our
                                > colleagues and their e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we
                                > have money sent via Mama Mikes that could be exchanged for other
                                > favors. That key role was taken by you as you put out your e-mail as
                                > to where you wanted the money mailed to - so I could not do anything
                                > about it. So, I am sorry that my leadership never materialized - and I
                                > left it to the outcome of providing suggestions rather than telling
                                > people what to do. You also did not allow me to say that it was best
                                > if you ran the role since you have the dataset of people and who knows
                                > whom and you wanted to collect the monies.
                                >
                                > Asif
                                >
                                > http://www.trainers pod.com/CMS <http://www.trainers pod.com/CMS>
                                > http://www.trainers pod.com/communit y
                                > <http://www.trainers pod.com/communit y>
                                > http://www.trainers pod.com/info <http://www.trainers pod.com/info>
                                >
                                > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
                                >
                                >
                                > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
                                > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                                > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                                > *From:* Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
                                > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:44 PM
                                > *To:* holistichelping@ yahoogroups. com;
                                > fightingpeacefully@ yahoogroups. com; learningfromeachoth er;
                                > mendenyo@yahoogroup s.com
                                > *Subject:* [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                                >
                                > I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I think you
                                > can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world, like
                                > our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which just seems
                                > more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.
                                >
                                > Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I realized what
                                > to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
                                > your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
                                > independent thinkers. Andrius
                                >
                                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -
                                >
                                > I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
                                > leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have worked
                                > nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed it I
                                > estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and 10,000
                                > victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
                                > inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no government may
                                > not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the Mungikis and
                                > open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to Nairobi,
                                > there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
                                > Founding Fathers-Mothers- Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a turn at
                                > playing General Washington at the computer. We took the opportunity to
                                > prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
                                > national government, for example, by simply asking, In these days, Who
                                > has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
                                > available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
                                > now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen. Knock,
                                > knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
                                > Andrius
                                >
                                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- -----
                                >
                                > Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
                                > > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly
                                > strategize
                                > > with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat today with
                                > > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened to say we might
                                > together
                                > > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to approach
                                > > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they can "print"
                                > > that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic, either,
                                > > because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies calling
                                > > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would make.
                                > >
                                > > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy leader and as a
                                > fund
                                > > organizer - and the basis for any such role (Kenyan based or outside
                                > > based) and the governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
                                > > arrangement is unusual but there is something extremely effective about
                                > > it, too. I suppose it would be good to separate the person (Andrius)
                                > > from the role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the person has
                                > that
                                > > role.
                                > >
                                > > I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great stature
                                > has
                                > > made itself evident, and those who have risen to the occassion, and
                                > > likewise all around the world who have come together as one family.
                                > > Pamela McLean is collecting our stories. My own personal story is that,
                                > > thanks to us all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the
                                > skills
                                > > I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found their
                                > > purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player, and when
                                > > I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging gangs. I feel
                                > > engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
                                > > intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
                                > > extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he had not
                                > > proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
                                > > dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
                                > > Tanzania and with that I started our operations. Later that day I spoke
                                > > with Asif and asked him, what can we do to help? and his suggestion was
                                > > that we collect used cellphones in the US and ship them to Kenya. At
                                > > that moment I concluded that probably most people lack a focus on the
                                > > logic of immediate solutions. I think I have taken a role that was open
                                > > to take, and I have played with gusto, and best of all, I have
                                > shared it
                                > > with everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of it, which
                                > > delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility myself to
                                > > confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch every few
                                > > days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources - usually our
                                > > very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with all. My
                                > > story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led openly. I am
                                > > actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
                                > >
                                > > I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great victories. My
                                > > own failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the
                                > status
                                > > quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have witnessed.
                                > > But others can't see them. They can see the road that is blocked, but
                                > > they can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the invisible world.
                                > >
                                > > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like this as a
                                > > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for by us.
                                > > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be or
                                > will be
                                > > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a caliber there may
                                > not
                                > > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
                                > > Heaven, where what you believe is what happens.
                                > >
                                > > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think we may
                                > > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy with the
                                > > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or support
                                > > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys to unlock
                                > > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a good person
                                > > to pry open those doors.
                                > >
                                > > I invite us to consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
                                > > twenty year journey to remake our world in the spirit that we live
                                > > today. I encourage us to dare to play an ever more serious game, draw
                                > > an ever more serious picture, because we can. I am sorry to think that
                                > > too soon we will lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
                                > > repelled, we will fall away. I am sorry to know that the good spirit of
                                > > Lithuania's independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry to say
                                > > that the America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
                                > > lifting my heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I should
                                > > beat. We have sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as I lead
                                > > our Minciu Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.
                                > >
                                > > I am glad you are in unity. I am excited to hear from your spirit, the
                                > > prayer of your intentions.
                                > >
                                > > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have drifted to writing to
                                > > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on my heart that I would
                                > > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
                                > > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them your
                                > > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to call, which
                                > > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in your growth
                                > > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure that.
                                > >
                                > > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
                                > >
                                > > Andrius
                                > >
                                > > Andrius Kulikauskas
                                > > Minciu Sodas
                                > > http://www.ms. lt <http://www.ms. lt>
                                > > ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms. lt>
                                > > +370 699 30003
                                > > Vilnius, Lithuania
                                > >
                                >
                                >

                              • Andrius Kulikauskas
                                Asif, Janet, Thank you for your letters. I look forward to reflecting and ongoing learning how to work together and organize a shared culture. Andrius
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                                  Asif, Janet,
                                  Thank you for your letters.
                                  I look forward to reflecting and ongoing learning how to work together
                                  and organize a shared culture.
                                  Andrius

                                  asif.daya@... wrote:
                                  > Janet:
                                  >
                                  > You are right. This should be aired after the conflict. I was just
                                  > angered by the statement that cut me down and had to respond. It was
                                  > part of a long e-mail buried within. Anyways - there is always tension
                                  > when a large group works and people are doing their best to assist and
                                  > it's all going so fast that it gets lost in the noise. We have been
                                  > having an extra huge amount of e-mail to contend with and there is a
                                  > lot going on - all for the betterment of Kenya and it's people. This
                                  > organization has done a lot of good for Kenyans.....and I am moved by
                                  > that.
                                  > We at TrainersPod are doing other projects in Kenya and they involve
                                  > using local NGOs and Churches etc. e.g We provide them with the latest
                                  > news so that they are aware where they need to go to get people that
                                  > are needy and using my connections at Hospitals and Pharmacies to get
                                  > them the right help. So our focus is very different. It was like when
                                  > I sent connections of a Hospital and a Pharmacy that Sam could get
                                  > to.....although he choose a different route. That's what TrainersPod
                                  > is involved in.
                                  >
                                  > Asif
                                  >
                                  > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS
                                  > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
                                  > http://www.trainerspod.com/info
                                  >
                                  > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned find
                                  > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                                  > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  > *From:* Janet Feldman [mailto:kaippg@...]
                                  > *Sent:* Friday, February 01, 2008 3:19 PM
                                  > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                                  > *Subject:* [holistichelping] Asif, Andrius, All: Important Issues,
                                  > Different Timing
                                  >
                                  > Dear Asif, Andrius, and All,
                                  >
                                  > This email exchange has somewhat "strayed" too--as did the letter
                                  > Andrius wrote to me--but I regard what is being said here as highly
                                  > relevant and important, though for a different time, when urgencies
                                  > have somewhat eased. It may be that a different context would be good
                                  > too, at least for some of the discussion.
                                  >
                                  > Some of the issues being brought up I can relate to myself. We do need
                                  > to have some discussions about how our mutual work, time, energy, and
                                  > caring are framed, encouraged, tended, utilized, and acknowledged.
                                  > Some of the structural issues are crucial to our future as a large and
                                  > growing entity, one which encompasses both individual focus and group
                                  > endeavors.
                                  >
                                  > As a woman and as a social activist who has long dreamed of and worked
                                  > in "alternative" settings, I find I am challenged by some of the way
                                  > our work is framed and structured. There are other concerns and
                                  > considerations too, and it would be good to air them.
                                  >
                                  > In a strange but human way, some of what we are feeling and
                                  > experiencing is akin to what is happening in Kenya. This is the
                                  > territory of conflict, which can yield "opportunity" as well as "risk".
                                  >
                                  > Thanks very much for the wonderful work everyone is doing, and
                                  > blessings to you all! Janet
                                  >
                                  > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > *From:* asif.daya@... <mailto:asif.daya@...>
                                  > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                                  > <mailto:holistichelping@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > *Sent:* Friday, February 01, 2008 10:57 AM
                                  > *Subject:* RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                                  >
                                  > Andrius:
                                  >
                                  > This communication could have been done privately, but you did not
                                  > want it, and besides I found you speaking ill of me in a section
                                  > to Janet, I could NOT find that e-mail that it was taken out from,
                                  > hence, it must have been a private e-mail.
                                  >
                                  > I have my own business to run and can not do your leadership for
                                  > you. But when you say that you had to take it on your own since I
                                  > provided no ideas of worth, that is when one becomes defensive of
                                  > what they have contributed, and not for credit as you indicate.
                                  > That must be made very clear. I have dealt with organizations in
                                  > Kenya and it does not take the amount of money you are spilling in
                                  > - you have no idea of the cost of living in Kenya.....and what it
                                  > takes to encourage people to get things done there. So I would
                                  > stop as soon as possible to compare leadership styles.......yes,
                                  > you have one, and I have a different perspective. I have and
                                  > always will credit your organization - that is the people that
                                  > make up the organization for the fine work they have done. I did
                                  > not take on this project since I have matters going on from
                                  > TrainersPod. Hence, I hate being the subject of your e-mail where
                                  > you describe what a wonderful job you have done but at the expense
                                  > of cutting me down. If you want to pat yourself on the back - go
                                  > ahead - but don't try to cut me down in the process. As for not
                                  > offering Elluminate - it was a matter of the contract being made
                                  > available - and that is between me and Pamela.
                                  >
                                  > Asif
                                  >
                                  > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS>
                                  > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/community>
                                  > http://www.trainerspod.com/info <http://www.trainerspod.com/info>
                                  >
                                  > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the learned
                                  > find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no
                                  > longer exists." - Eric Hoffer
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  > *From:* Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@...]
                                  > *Sent:* Friday, February 01, 2008 5:12 AM
                                  > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                                  > *Subject:* [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                                  >
                                  > I reply to Asif, but otherwise it's not a very important letter. It's
                                  > tangential. Andrius
                                  > ----------------------------------------------------------
                                  >
                                  > Asif,
                                  >
                                  > Yes I also recommend collecting cell phones. Who would like to do
                                  > that?
                                  > It's a great example of an independent project that one can do at
                                  > their
                                  > own pace, have a wonderful impact one month from now, and not have to
                                  > worry about the immediate day, who is going to be killed or saved.
                                  >
                                  > Asif, we have been caring about the "invisible folks" since early on.
                                  > Indeed, since we started working with Samwel Kongere. They are the
                                  > end
                                  > recipients of the help that goes out. We have participants who are
                                  > transporting refugees, feeding them, delivering food to the rural
                                  > areas.
                                  >
                                  > I estimate that for about 10,000 USD we have organized and
                                  > provided some
                                  > resources for at least 100 peacemakers. We have a list of
                                  > telephones at
                                  > http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HelpKenyans
                                  > <http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HelpKenyans> of at least 70
                                  > people who
                                  > have understood the point of the Pyramid of Peace and I am sure there
                                  > are more. I imagine each of them as involving perhaps 10 people to
                                  > whom
                                  > they send airtime or of whom they ask for help for local projects,
                                  > surely this is how it's done in formal or informal organizations like
                                  > REPACTED, Nafsi Afrika Acrobats, Uyoga, ACTWID KONGADZEM. And when
                                  > you
                                  > count everybody who got a meal or a ride or attended a community
                                  > theater
                                  > event that got them through the day after they had been traumatized,
                                  > surely it is 10,000 people or more. Surely every person loved
                                  > radiates
                                  > that out to 10 people or so, and that's reenforced by the news that's
                                  > carried by the radio shows or the people who rode on the roads we
                                  > freed
                                  > but especially the word-of-mouth networks, maybe we touched 100,000
                                  > people, and the gift of our love grows as we pass it onward. It's a
                                  > tangible percentage of the 300,000 who have been displaced. And it's
                                  > among the most vulnerable that we are reaching if you consider
                                  > that we
                                  > are organizing road trips to the Kalenjin areas or to Naivasha
                                  > where we
                                  > are often the first to go, we are their "first impression" of the
                                  > help
                                  > they might receive, and when you consider that our distribution
                                  > decisions are made locally by people who have always worked with
                                  > fewer
                                  > resources than they merit.
                                  >
                                  > Asif, you imply that the money we go is used by our leaders. I have a
                                  > cruel streak by which I give them just enough so they would have the
                                  > strength to give to others. They have placed their lives at risk,
                                  > have
                                  > lost brothers, have risked their homes, have been robbed of their
                                  > phones
                                  > and cameras, have neglected care for their own health, have surely
                                  > eaten
                                  > irregularly because I know that I have. I also have a pious streak
                                  > whereby I don't touch money that isn't meant for me and so
                                  > typically I
                                  > end up absorbing the Western Union fees or part of them. I am a giver
                                  > of first resort and last resort. Do you think our leaders are any
                                  > different? That is why I have to command them to use a decent portion
                                  > for themselves, and in that sense I am a commander. I can't
                                  > imagine how
                                  > we could be distributing better and why would anybody listen to
                                  > you or
                                  > me or anybody on this matter except as we are able to show that by
                                  > our
                                  > example. I read in your sentences a lack of empathy for me and
                                  > others.
                                  > If you loved me, then you would command me to get more sleep and find
                                  > more money for myself, and not haunt me with "invisible folks".
                                  > That's
                                  > why we publish phone numbers, so that nobody is invisible, or at
                                  > least,
                                  > we keep getting closer to them.
                                  >
                                  > Here is how I think life works in Kenya, even though I have never
                                  > been
                                  > there. I believe that when we rally around Samwel Kongere, we lift
                                  > his
                                  > entire village, even his island. Hundreds of people benefit from his
                                  > good health. If anything should happen to him, then it would be a
                                  > calamity to his region. Surely he has a churchful of people
                                  > praying for
                                  > him. These are the invisible folks who I imagine.
                                  >
                                  > By definition, Minciu Sodas serves the independent thinkers, the
                                  > people
                                  > who are pushed aside by the system, who are the marginalized, the
                                  > isolated, the excluded. Just look around. Who do you think we
                                  > identify
                                  > with? Samwel was an "unemployed volunteer" when we came to know
                                  > him. I
                                  > know several for whom that expression spoke a lot about his mind, his
                                  > heart, his soul and his circumstance.
                                  >
                                  > Asif, I think at the heart of this is that you want some kind of
                                  > credit. I understand that feeling. I give you credit for establishing
                                  > Trainerspod and for dedicating your life to staying connected to
                                  > Kenya
                                  > and not letting Kenyans be abandoned by the rest of the world. Yet
                                  > you
                                  > seek credit for an idea. An idea is like a seed, it is dead by
                                  > itself,
                                  > and has trillions of copies that are basically the same, and most of
                                  > them stay dead. The wind scatters them and who is the one who
                                  > cares to
                                  > count which exactly was the seed that sprouted? Can't all the seeds
                                  > rejoice together? Isn't the glory to the wind that placed them? I
                                  > know
                                  > the wish for credit, it is perhaps healthy. I asked Rachel, when you
                                  > went to Naivasha with your team and engaged the Mungiki, did anybody
                                  > else help? Who do we share credit with for our victory? We must be
                                  > sure to credit them. And she said there was nobody else. We know who
                                  > did it: her team, the Mungikis, her local contacts in Naivasha,
                                  > and all
                                  > of us together. And we know it is true because Dennis rode safely to
                                  > Nairobi when just shortly before he had to consider so many costly
                                  > alternative routes. We didn't raise money for a helicopter ride for
                                  > Dennis, and we didn't raise money to save Ron Odhiambo's house. We
                                  > raised money to talk to the Mungikis and share it with them and their
                                  > "invisible folks". And I sent the story to dozens of journalists
                                  > in the
                                  > world and in Lithuania, and thousands of people, but it didn't get
                                  > picked up.
                                  >
                                  > I will share my story how our distribution system got started. We
                                  > got a
                                  > letter from Jackton Arija that his family was without food. And what
                                  > could we do? My mind churned and churned. The logic was pretty simple
                                  > - 1) we were able to send money to Dennis in Nakuru, 2) I think he
                                  > had
                                  > mentioned that he was sending airtime to others, 3) which reminded
                                  > me of
                                  > a post back from 2005 by Earl Mardle:
                                  > http://www.kn.com.au/networks/2005/11/time_is_money.html
                                  > <http://www.kn.com.au/networks/2005/11/time_is_money.html>
                                  > "The latest wrinkles come via Andrius Kulikauskas and the folks at
                                  > Cyfranogi We see the emergence of a mobile derived electronic
                                  > currency
                                  > in Malawi where mobile phones are already must-have devices."
                                  > Which is
                                  > to say, "emergency community currency" has been on our minds for some
                                  > time at our laboratory's working group Cyfranogi led by John Rogers.
                                  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyfranogi/
                                  > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyfranogi/> John created a currency as
                                  > part of his post-tsunami relief work in Sri Lanka, and Stephen
                                  > DeMeulenaere worked on that as well, and Kevin Parcell has dedicated
                                  > enormous energy to such a concept
                                  > http://homepage.mac.com/forever.net/
                                  > <http://homepage.mac.com/forever.net/>
                                  > So it was a natural conclusion 1-2-3 for me to explain to Dennis that
                                  > "hey, Jackton can trade cell phone minutes for food". It's natural
                                  > but
                                  > as I have found in speaking with Kenyans, it needs to be explained to
                                  > people because most of us, even in Kenya, aren't used to thinking as
                                  > traders. Asif, it's strange for me that you want credit for this
                                  > idea.
                                  > It's the kind of idea that I was hoping you would lead us with, but I
                                  > had to take the lead myself. So what if you came up with it? Where
                                  > were you?
                                  >
                                  > Asif, I spent an hour and a half writing this letter. Is that how you
                                  > want me to spend my time? And many people are spending time reading
                                  > this letter, including people in Kenya. But I hope it gives a glimpse
                                  > of how I think things happen.
                                  >
                                  > Asif, please give us the best of what you have. Please write about
                                  > your
                                  > deepest value in life, please write about the quetions you would
                                  > like to
                                  > find answers to, please write about what you would like to achieve.
                                  > This would give for us a great unity that I know lurks within you and
                                  > that we would benefit from.
                                  >
                                  > Yesterday I spent all day centered around the chat event which Pamela
                                  > set up. It went very well. Really it happened because of my interest
                                  > to honor your work with Pamela and support that. The Elluminate
                                  > meeting
                                  > never happened, but we did what we could and it went well. Please
                                  > dedicate yourself to helping me likewise. Or please focus on the
                                  > heart
                                  > that you have to offer, and cultivating your endeavors from start to
                                  > finish, rather than asking for credit for scattered ideas at a
                                  > laboratory where they are free for the taking, and which aren't
                                  > exactly
                                  > brilliant, either.
                                  >
                                  > Asif, please let us know what you would like achieve and how we
                                  > can help
                                  > you.
                                  >
                                  > Andrius
                                  >
                                  > Andrius Kulikauskas
                                  > Minciu Sodas
                                  > http://www.ms.lt <http://www.ms.lt>
                                  > ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms.lt>
                                  > +370 699 30003
                                  > Vilnius, Lithuania
                                  >
                                  > asif.daya@... <mailto:asif.daya%40trainerspod.com> wrote:
                                  > > Andrius:
                                  > >
                                  > > I still recommend that we collect cell phones to send as many don't
                                  > > have it and that way the money can be distributed to the poor via
                                  > > these cell phones. The money is only reaching those that have the
                                  > > money to buy a cell phone or a computer, but not those that eat out
                                  > > of their huts and raise their own food. Where there is only a
                                  > child in
                                  > > the family taking care of another child as is evident in HIV/AIDS
                                  > > family homes. These are the people you have missed through your
                                  > > system. Your system although as I have told you has done a lot
                                  > of good
                                  > > it has not been able to help the absolutely helpless. These people
                                  > > live in shanty towns and miss meals. They are the ones that need
                                  > the
                                  > > most help. I am not condemning anyone for their work - the work has
                                  > > been excellent, but please do not forget the invisible folks.
                                  > >
                                  > > Asif
                                  > >
                                  > > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS>
                                  > > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/community>
                                  > > http://www.trainerspod.com/info <http://www.trainerspod.com/info>
                                  > >
                                  > > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the
                                  > learned find
                                  > > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                                  > > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > ----------------------------------------------------------
                                  > > *From:* asif.daya@...
                                  > <mailto:asif.daya%40trainerspod.com>
                                  > [mailto:asif.daya@...
                                  > <mailto:asif.daya%40trainerspod.com>]
                                  > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:10 PM
                                  > > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                                  > <mailto:holistichelping%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > *Subject:* RE: [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                                  > >
                                  > > Andrius:
                                  > >
                                  > > I suggested we send cell phones since we had heard that one was
                                  > stolen
                                  > > from our Kenyan colleague and I was hearing stories of such.
                                  > They get
                                  > > stolen since they have "money" in them. We all have 2-3 cell phones
                                  > > laying around, as we change subscribers. The leadership role was
                                  > ran
                                  > > by you since you knew the players - I don't know the names of
                                  > ALL our
                                  > > colleagues and their e-mails as they are BCC:D. I suggested that we
                                  > > have money sent via Mama Mikes that could be exchanged for other
                                  > > favors. That key role was taken by you as you put out your
                                  > e-mail as
                                  > > to where you wanted the money mailed to - so I could not do
                                  > anything
                                  > > about it. So, I am sorry that my leadership never materialized -
                                  > and I
                                  > > left it to the outcome of providing suggestions rather than telling
                                  > > people what to do. You also did not allow me to say that it was
                                  > best
                                  > > if you ran the role since you have the dataset of people and who
                                  > knows
                                  > > whom and you wanted to collect the monies.
                                  > >
                                  > > Asif
                                  > >
                                  > > http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS>
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS <http://www.trainerspod.com/CMS>>
                                  > > http://www.trainerspod.com/community
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/community>
                                  > > <http://www.trainerspod.com/community
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/community>>
                                  > > http://www.trainerspod.com/info
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/info> <http://www.trainerspod.com/info
                                  > <http://www.trainerspod.com/info>>
                                  > >
                                  > > Please consider the environment before printing this message.
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > "In times of change, learners inherit the earth while the
                                  > learned find
                                  > > themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
                                  > > exists." - Eric Hoffer
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  > > ----------------------------------------------------------
                                  > > *From:* Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms.lt>]
                                  > > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:44 PM
                                  > > *To:* holistichelping@yahoogroups.com
                                  > <mailto:holistichelping%40yahoogroups.com>;
                                  > > fightingpeacefully@yahoogroups.com
                                  > <mailto:fightingpeacefully%40yahoogroups.com>; learningfromeachother;
                                  > > mendenyo@yahoogroups.com <mailto:mendenyo%40yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > *Subject:* [holistichelping] Re: Janet, may I call you? My story
                                  > >
                                  > > I wrote a bit more to another group and I add that below. I
                                  > think you
                                  > > can understand that it is so strange to live in one's own world,
                                  > like
                                  > > our lab, and then in this other supposedly real world, which
                                  > just seems
                                  > > more and more contrived. I guess there is beauty in that.
                                  > >
                                  > > Rachel, Ken, David, Dennis and all our Kenyan leaders, I
                                  > realized what
                                  > > to say to you: Please let us know how we can serve you. Lead us with
                                  > > your answer. Minciu Sodas is a laboratory for serving and organizing
                                  > > independent thinkers. Andrius
                                  > >
                                  > > ----------------------------------------
                                  > >
                                  > > I share a letter which I just wrote to Janet Feldman and our Kenyan
                                  > > leaders at our Minciu Sodas laboratory. This last month we have
                                  > worked
                                  > > nonstop, raised $10,000 of mostly our own money, and distributed
                                  > it I
                                  > > estimate to probably about 100 peacemakers, 1,000 volunteers and
                                  > 10,000
                                  > > victims. We have shifted focus perhaps a dozen times to cast out any
                                  > > inklings towards genocide and we have achieved what no
                                  > government may
                                  > > not even be able to do, which is to win the hopes of the
                                  > Mungikis and
                                  > > open the roads. Dennis Kimambo rode safely today from Nakuru to
                                  > Nairobi,
                                  > > there were no roadblocks. I see among us the inspiring genius of
                                  > > Founding Fathers-Mothers-Sisters-Brothers and I have enjoyed a
                                  > turn at
                                  > > playing General Washington at the computer. We took the
                                  > opportunity to
                                  > > prevent a Rwandan-style genocide. We have the chance to organize a
                                  > > national government, for example, by simply asking, In these
                                  > days, Who
                                  > > has "worked for free"? Who has called for peace? Who was publicly
                                  > > available? We can set the culture for an entire country. Maybe not
                                  > > now, but maybe someday. We are believers because we have seen.
                                  > Knock,
                                  > > knock! We are coming to your neighborhood. Better yet, come to ours.
                                  > > Andrius
                                  > >
                                  > > --------------------------------------------
                                  > >
                                  > > Andrius Kulikauskas wrote:
                                  > > > Janet if you are around in the next hour or so I would gladly
                                  > > strategize
                                  > > > with you regarding the next month or so. We had a good chat
                                  > today with
                                  > > > Rachel, Ken, David present and I was emboldened to say we might
                                  > > together
                                  > > > seek $100,000 to distribute this month. They are interested to
                                  > approach
                                  > > > Safaricom which makes a lot of sense because I suspect they
                                  > can "print"
                                  > > > that airtime at almost no cost to them and no loss to traffic,
                                  > either,
                                  > > > because these are volunteers calling volunteers, enemies calling
                                  > > > enemies, etc. not the usual calls anybody would make.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I'm thinking about my own role - both as a strategy leader and
                                  > as a
                                  > > fund
                                  > > > organizer - and the basis for any such role (Kenyan based or
                                  > outside
                                  > > > based) and the governance mechanism for our pyramid. The current
                                  > > > arrangement is unusual but there is something extremely
                                  > effective about
                                  > > > it, too. I suppose it would be good to separate the person
                                  > (Andrius)
                                  > > > from the role (leader) and then have a reasoning why the
                                  > person has
                                  > > that
                                  > > > role.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I am delighted by our Kenyan leaders, both those whose great
                                  > stature
                                  > > has
                                  > > > made itself evident, and those who have risen to the
                                  > occassion, and
                                  > > > likewise all around the world who have come together as one
                                  > family.
                                  > > > Pamela McLean is collecting our stories. My own personal story
                                  > is that,
                                  > > > thanks to us all, I have had the chance to contribute many of the
                                  > > skills
                                  > > > I have fostered at various times in my life, as if they found
                                  > their
                                  > > > purpose these days. As a youth, I was an expert chess player,
                                  > and when
                                  > > > I lived with my grandmother, I became skilled at engaging
                                  > gangs. I feel
                                  > > > engaged as a strategic leader, which is the role that I originally
                                  > > > intended for Asif when we faced the media blackout because of his
                                  > > > extensive knowledge of the Kenyan reality. I woke up and he
                                  > had not
                                  > > > proceeded, so I realized I must take charge myself. I immediately
                                  > > > dispatched money to Davis Weddi in Uganda and Kiyavilo Msekwa in
                                  > > > Tanzania and with that I started our operations. Later that
                                  > day I spoke
                                  > > > with Asif and asked him, what can we do to help? and his
                                  > suggestion was
                                  > > > that we collect used cellphones in the US and ship them to
                                  > Kenya. At
                                  > > > that moment I concluded that probably most people lack a focus
                                  > on the
                                  > > > logic of immediate solutions. I think I have taken a role that
                                  > was open
                                  > > > to take, and I have played with gusto, and best of all, I have
                                  > > shared it
                                  > > > with everybody I can, so that we have all gotten a taste of
                                  > it, which
                                  > > > delights my soul, this banquet. I have taken responsibility
                                  > myself to
                                  > > > confer with others to reevaluate our situation from scratch
                                  > every few
                                  > > > days, to reorder our priorities, and to marshal resources -
                                  > usually our
                                  > > > very own - to make the decisive moves while staying one with
                                  > all. My
                                  > > > story is the dozen or so letters I wrote by which I led
                                  > openly. I am
                                  > > > actually happy to relinquish that role, it is a good one.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I am blessed that our Kenyan leaders have achieved great
                                  > victories. My
                                  > > > own failure or challenge is to engage the real enemy which is the
                                  > > status
                                  > > > quo. I can see and you can see the miracles that we have
                                  > witnessed.
                                  > > > But others can't see them. They can see the road that is
                                  > blocked, but
                                  > > > they can't see the road that was opened. Welcome to the
                                  > invisible world.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > You know and I know that we could rule a small planet like
                                  > this as a
                                  > > > paradise, an orchard of thoughts planted by God and cared for
                                  > by us.
                                  > > > You and I know that among us are leaders who can be, could be or
                                  > > will be
                                  > > > Presidents of Kenya - and there can be many - of a caliber
                                  > there may
                                  > > not
                                  > > > yet have been. We are today the Presidents of Kenya, a Kingdom of
                                  > > > Heaven, where what you believe is what happens.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I don't think the Mungikis will disappoint us. I think we may
                                  > > > disappoint them. I think that the status quo can't be happy
                                  > with the
                                  > > > consequences of our work. I don't think they will fund us or
                                  > support
                                  > > > us, but I wish they would. I don't have the skill or the keys
                                  > to unlock
                                  > > > the many locks. I don't even know if it is possible for a good
                                  > person
                                  > > > to pry open those doors.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I invite us to consider this as the first steps on the ground of a
                                  > > > twenty year journey to remake our world in the spirit that we live
                                  > > > today. I encourage us to dare to play an ever more serious
                                  > game, draw
                                  > > > an ever more serious picture, because we can. I am sorry to
                                  > think that
                                  > > > too soon we will lose, we will hit a wall or a ceiling, we will be
                                  > > > repelled, we will fall away. I am sorry to know that the good
                                  > spirit of
                                  > > > Lithuania's independence movement is a faint sigh. I am sorry
                                  > to say
                                  > > > that the America I grew up in is a distant place. I thank you for
                                  > > > lifting my heart and I listen to you for the pace at which I
                                  > should
                                  > > > beat. We have sprinted, and we will march a long ways, and as
                                  > I lead
                                  > > > our Minciu Sodas laboratory I will add our drum.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I am glad you are in unity. I am excited to hear from your
                                  > spirit, the
                                  > > > prayer of your intentions.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Janet, I have started by writing to you, but have drifted to
                                  > writing to
                                  > > > our Kenyans and all of us, as that is what's on my heart that
                                  > I would
                                  > > > share with you, and care to hear your thoughts. I appreciate your
                                  > > > recent letters which are so measured that I see in them your
                                  > > > investigatory mind. That is another, longstanding reason to
                                  > call, which
                                  > > > is to encourage you to take a deeper step and engage us in
                                  > your growth
                                  > > > ongoing. I think in these days we've all matured to treasure that.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > I'm still up for a bit if you are around.
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Andrius
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Andrius Kulikauskas
                                  > > > Minciu Sodas
                                  > > > http://www.ms.lt <http://www.ms.lt> <http://www.ms.lt
                                  > <http://www.ms.lt>>
                                  > > > ms@... <mailto:ms%40ms.lt> <mailto:ms%40ms.lt>
                                  > > > +370 699 30003
                                  > > > Vilnius, Lithuania
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  >
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