Re: [holistichelping] Samwel's map of Internet access points in Rusinga Island
- Hi Samuel,
I am impressed at the work you are doing in trying to
diminish poverty and disdavantage. Please keep it up.
Thumbs up to Andrius, Lucas and all the others in the
network.This is a true testimony of what unity of
committed global citizens can achieve.You deserve a
pat on the back guys.
See you soon Sam and Ken. I will be there by end of
Cheers to you all
--- Andrius Kulikauskas <ms@...> wrote:
> Thank you very much for your letter which I share.
> And for your map
> which I have posted:
> Your map is very helpful and attractive, too. Now it
> would be good to
> add information about where people live. Where do
> you live? Where do the
> people live who you wrote us about? We need to
> organize the information
> that you collected earlier. Perhaps George here can
> help me. Let's think
> about that. What are the costs for using the
> Internet at the different
> I am very happy with your work. I am especially
> happy that you are
> growing as a writer and you are direct and honest
> with us. You are
> helping us be alive, sensitive, responsive in our
> Let's think about future projects. I think many of
> us might have ideas.
> Clearly your work is very stimulating for our
> community. Jeff wrote
> about the need for taking action on the ground.
> Currently, we have a few
> areas where we are strong:
> * Rusinga Island - thanks to you! Global village
> ideas and technologies
> may save lives here! We can focus on simple projects
> that our members
> might fund. Keep thinking, what could we achieve
> with you for $100?
> * Lithuanian countryside - I live here and I am
> working on our network
> in the villages. This is a place where we can
> experiment with
> technologies that might make for a wholesome life
> but don't target the
> highest standard of living.
> * Vienna, Kirchbach and elsewhere in Austria -
> thanks to Franz Naradha -
> this is where we can focus on the technologies that
> build on the highest
> quality infrastructure.
> Where else might we focus?
> Samwel, I don't have income now. I will try to
> organize another payment
> for you of $100 on September 1st. I don't know yet
> if I will be able to.
> Let's think first, though, what work you might do.
> Also, I don't think
> we should send money for the ProWiki translation.
> That is work that you
> agreed to do and I have already sent you money.
> Think of a solution.
> Perhaps you can look at other wikis and software. Do
> as much as you can
> yourself first.
> Samwel, different people have different
> expectations. When I send you
> money, my expectation is that you will use the money
> for your self and
> your family so that you are provided for and you
> have time to invest in
> the future. If you are working as an independent
> thinker, developing
> your thoughts about what you care about, such as
> "motivation through
> sacrifice", then we are "working in parallel" and so
> I don't need to
> worry about you. Your writing is very good. But I am
> concerned that you
> pay so much for Internet access. Perhaps we can do
> more with less? Of
> course, we can also think of more possibilities.
> I think that you have other work and so I don't have
> to worry too much
> about your situation. For us it is best to move
> slowly and steadily.
> Look at how much we have accomplished in one year!
> We're thinkers so
> let's keep our minds working and feeling our hearts,
> what is most
> important to us.
> Samwel, I think that the best projects for us in
> Rusinga Island are
> small projects where one of our participants can
> say, "I worked with
> Samwel on a project and for $100 I was able to try
> out an idea of mine
> and it made a difference!" These should be very
> simple projects that do
> not cost much money so that most of the money (at
> least $50) can go to
> you and your family.
> I think Linux on your laptop is an excellent idea. I
> have Linux on my
> laptop. However, be prepared for complications with
> the video card or
> sound card. If things don't work for your laptops
> components, you may
> have to use Windows.
> Samwel, excellent work! but please see what you can
> do for Helmut!
> Andrius Kulikauskas
> Minciu Sodas
> +370 (699) 30003
> Vilnius, Lithuania
> Dear Andrius,
> I am very much thankful and would want to thank you
> hundred times for
> the links you have given me, these are hints for
> development and would
> say that I was suffering in making ends meet, while
> thinking alone and
> this is why I did the think aloud.
> I have drawn the physical area of our area and would
> wish to send it now
> to you and you can post it in my Rusinga page,
> Although Ken is giving
> assistance I still hope there is a lot to be done
> for this community in
> terms of connecting it to the other parts of the
> world through the
> internet and through connections and with you on the
> bench of our
> support, we still think we will honor you one day to
> commemorate the
> foundation we are building together.
> I am thankful to Maria Agneses generosity to
> support me have the
> laptop, this is going to be my first time to have a
> personal computer
> for the work I m doing here .and I am going to
> install Linux into it
> and this will form the first Linux solution for this
> community because
> Ken is not using Linux, What do you think? ,
> As the Map is coming your way, I would say that the
> translation is going
> on and I would finish them as soon as the
> consultation is over and this
> will be in the last week of August, Can I get some
> money for those
> helping me translate because I am not a linguist?,
> the amount you sent
> me is over and you know, Helmut is happy with the
> trial copy I sent both
> of you. I just hope to get connected most of the
> times, and Ken is
> Charging me Us $ 50.00 per month for the internet
> support per month and
> getting this per month will make our research work
> possible without any
> interruption because the Laptop would have
> substituted our efforts, I
> can work and only go to the internet to send the
> findings using CDs and
> I am going offline for week as from 23^rd to 30^th
> July and come for
> time to meet Maria Agnese. If you have any comments
> to this mail you can
> get it across before 23rd and get the Map attached
> for the internet Sign
> spots and for Video Bridging.
> Samwel Okech kongere
> Nyamuga primary school
> P.O BOX 191,
> MBITA 040305-KENYA.
> Cell: +254 725 600 439
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- Dear Franz and Andrius,
We are happy to read the information about the Linux
internet access pointing to Rusinga Island. Could it
not point to Cameroon too? We pray that someday
somehow this dream can also reach us here in Cameroon
because, since the year 2000 , this has been our
dream to have an internat access pointing to Cameroon.
What do you think about that Andrius and Franz?
Immense thanks for listening.
Sincerely ACTWID KONGADZEM members led by Wendi and
--- Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada@...> wrote:
> Andrius writes:__________________________________________________
> >I think Linux on your laptop is an excellent idea.
> I have Linux on my
> >laptop. However, be prepared for complications with
> the video card or
> >sound card. If things don't work for your laptops
> components, you may
> >have to use Windows.
> I just mention that we need to have a list of "linux
> compatible laptops".
> We did lot of research here and worked with several
> models, until we
> picked a Lenovo (earlier IBM ThinkPad) that is
> compatible with Linux
> 100%). We will buy now 9 of those for our "learning
> café" in Vienna - to
> be more precise there is an adult eduction
> institution that cooperates
> with us who will buy it.
> Having such a pattern spread widely will be helpful.
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- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Franz Nahrada"
> I just mention that we need to have a list of "linux compatiblelaptops".
I guess you've searched google for "linux laptop" and found this (just
in the first page of the search):
We might add our own first-hand experiences if we wish.
Things will change in time, with newer linux distributions ("distros")
becoming more and more compatible with existing hardware - in general.
I know this doesn't add much, except my saying that I too find this
Is there a webpage on the wiki to document this information?
I think that would be really helpful to use as a guide for this proposed
project as well as other ones.
> --- In email@example.com
> <mailto:holistichelping%40yahoogroups.com>, "Franz Nahrada"
> <f.nahrada@...> wrote:
> > I just mention that we need to have a list of "linux compatible
> I guess you've searched google for "linux laptop" and found this (just
> in the first page of the search):
> * http://www.linux-laptop.net/ <http://www.linux-laptop.net/>
> * http://www.tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
> * http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO.html
> * http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ <http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/>
> * http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
> * http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
> We might add our own first-hand experiences if we wish.
> Things will change in time, with newer linux distributions ("distros")
> becoming more and more compatible with existing hardware - in general.
> I know this doesn't add much, except my saying that I too find this
Yes - we need to become good wiki-gardners. I hope I'll be able to learn more about how ProWiki works, and also what Andrius et al are doing (at first I felt I was dancing on shaky ground, and I don't know if things are better now).
In very practical terms, I guess the Mbitan project (and in time what Andrius is suggesting for Kirchback) will be the oportunity to iron out the how-to to create the apropriate wiki-pages. We need to have a project, create pages under that project, and link within and across projects. The specifics of that escape me, but maybe Andrius and of course Helmut can give us a handful of already working pages so that "how links work" is aparent and replicable by us? I think this would be most helpful!
I won't be available in August, but I'd love to do just that. So I'll do some thinking and maybe write some by email - hoping that that will be useful, which I don't see as likely. :-/ (Or I'll magically have a couple of hours before I go.)
----- Mensaje original -----
De: Jeff Buderer <jeff@...>
Fecha: Martes, Julio 25, 2006 12:21 pm
Asunto: Re: SPAM-LOW: [holistichelping] Re: Samwel's map of Internet accesspoints in Rusinga Island
> Is there a webpage on the wiki to document this information?
> I think that would be really helpful to use as a guide for this
> project as well as other ones.
> lgs0a wrote:
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org
> > <mailto:holistichelping%40yahoogroups.com>, "Franz Nahrada"
> > <f.nahrada@...> wrote:
> > > I just mention that we need to have a list of "linux compatible
> > laptops".
> > I guess you've searched google for "linux laptop" and found
> this (just
> > in the first page of the search):
> > * http://www.linux-laptop.net/ <http://www.linux-laptop.net/>
> > * http://www.tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
> > <http://www.tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html>
> > * http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO.html
> > <http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Laptop-HOWTO.html>
> > * http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ <http://www.linux-on-
> laptops.com/>> * http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
> > <http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html>
> > * http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
> > <http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html>
> > We might add our own first-hand experiences if we wish.
> > Things will change in time, with newer linux distributions
> ("distros")> becoming more and more compatible with existing
> hardware - in general.
> > I know this doesn't add much, except my saying that I too find this
> > interesting.
> > Lucas