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Minciu Sodas in Kiswahili: Haki Elimu Rafiki

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  • Andrius Kulikauskas
    Josephat Ndibalema, Thank you for agreeing to lead our Minciu Sodas laboratory s new working group in the Kiswahili language based on your deepest value of
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 28, 2007
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      Josephat Ndibalema, Thank you for agreeing to lead our Minciu Sodas
      laboratory's new working group in the Kiswahili language based on your
      deepest value of "seeing many people getting education as their basic
      right".
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HakiElimuRafiki/
      http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?HakiElimuRafiki
      Along with William Wambura, I invite all of our Kiswahili speakers to
      join your discussion group Haki Elimu Rafiki by sending a blank message
      to hakielimurafiki-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

      I share your writings from your wiki page:
      I was born 31 years past,Tanzania is my country of birth educated in
      a catholic school "Kaengesa Seminary Secondary School" from 1991 to 1995
      joined high school in 1996 to 1998.In the year 2003 i joined The
      University of Dar es salaam for a nine month certificate course in law
      completed in june 2004.Presentry i'm working as a public servant in the
      Government of the United Republic of Tanzania in the ministry of Public
      Safety and Security and first year student at The Open University of
      Tanzania taking Bachelor in Law.I'm a married man with a single child
      aged 4yrs.I'm also among founder member of Uyoga Development Group a
      non-profit making organisation operating in Dar es salaam Tanzania.My
      field of interest include Social work,book reading,writing,attending
      seminars,volunteering and uplifting of youth and women.
      My Own Point of View: We may be highly educated,but if we are
      without deep integration of thought and feeling,our lives are
      incomplete,and as long as education does not cultivate an integrated
      outlook on life,it has very little significance. To remain
      economically competitive and prosper in this global knowledge-driven
      economy,countries cannot afford to have large sectors of their
      population excluded from education,or at the lower level of the
      education process. Education is positively related to development.
      http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?JosephatNdibalema

      And also I share below the long chat which I found today in Kiswahili at
      our chat archive http://www.worknets.org/archive/ We have a chat room
      for Kiswahili which you can enter: http://www.worknets.org/chat/ and we
      can start them in other languages if there is interest.

      I note also your interest in encouraging education in the Kiswahili
      language.

      This is an exciting moment for our Minciu Sodas laboratory as we break
      this language barrier!

      Andrius

      Andrius Kulikauskas
      Minciu Sodas
      http://www.ms.lt
      ms@...
      Vilnius, Lithuania


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      Prims_Lugemwa: /room Kiswahili :: /room Kiswahili :: Abinel upo
      wapi,ingia tuanze mjadala :: yes mambo vipi

      Abinel: safi :: niambie

      Prims_Lugemwa: tuutumie muda ipasavyo :: tujadiliane kuhusiana na nini?
      :: Mazingtira au wanafunzi

      Abinel: Tunzungumzie mfumo mzima wa

      Prims_Lugemwa: wa nini?

      Abinel: wanaafunzi

      Prims_Lugemwa: tuanze :: kuhuasiana na nini? :: matatizo au nini?

      Abinel: KWAKUA UMEPENDEKEZA

      Prims_Lugemwa: KWELI WANAFUNZI WANAKUMBANA NA MATASTIZO MENGI SANA

      Abinel: Umenigusa kwani sote ni miongoni mwao

      Prims_Lugemwa: kama vil;e mandhari sahihi ya kusomea

      Abinel: haswaaa

      Prims_Lugemwa: ufundishwaji mbovu

      Abinel: Pamoja na mitaala

      Prims_Lugemwa: waalimu walio chini ya kiwango :: yes na mtaala mzima ni
      mbovu

      Abinel: Sema wanafunzi wengi wanajitahidi

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwa nini nasema hivyo

      Abinel: Kwani ni wengi ambao wanajiweza :: Tatizo kwenye kuwezeshwa

      Prims_Lugemwa: mitaala iliyoko haiwezi kumfanya kijana kupambana na
      mazingira halisi ya :: anamooishi

      Abinel: Kwa nini

      Prims_Lugemwa: e limu bora iendane na mazingiras bora :: kuwezeshwa ndio
      hukop :: wengi tunaishia kukariri badala ya kuelewa

      Abinel: Uchumi wetu bado

      Prims_Lugemwa: mwishowe hatuwezi kushindindana na soko la kimataifa

      Abinel: Sema kizazi hiki

      Prims_Lugemwa: uchumi utakua tukiwekeza ktk Elimu

      Abinel: Ndio chanzo cha mafanikio

      Prims_Lugemwa: network inazingua

      Abinel: Ndio mafanikio katika maswala yote :: Na :: Na :: Na

      Prims_Lugemwa: neti ilikua inazingua

      Abinel: Matatizo yetu yanaanza :: Ila sasa shwari. :: Tuendelee

      Prims_Lugemwa: unanipata :: sas fresh

      Abinel: Ile mbaya,,

      Prims_Lugemwa: poa

      Abinel: Sema mh.Jakaya na watu wake.. :: Wanweza kutusaidia sana.

      Prims_Lugemwa: matatizo kuisha iwapo kila mmoja wetu na taifa kwa ujumla
      wakipay part zao

      Abinel: Kila mmoja anatakiwa kuwajibika. :: Pamoja na kuwajibika. :: Na

      Prims_Lugemwa: abinel unanipata

      Abinel: Pamoja na kuwajika.

      Prims_Lugemwa: network mbovu :: uwajibikaji ni kwa kial mmoja wetu ::
      kuimarisha taifa lililo bora

      Abinel: Uajua nini :: Unajua nini,

      Prims_Lugemwa: mzazi anayewekeza kwenye elimu anampz msingi bora mtoto
      wake :: nini

      Abinel: Usimtafute mchawi wako peke yako

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwa nini

      Abinel: Kwa sababu wacawi wanawaaribia wengi

      Prims_Lugemwa: tatizo hasa ni mitaala yetu iliyopitwa na wakati ::
      kumbuka hiki ni kizazi kipya

      Abinel: Kwaiyo twende na wakati,

      Prims_Lugemwa: kinahitaji wakati nakuutumia ipasavyo

      Abinel: Chamsingi kutafakari uko wakati gani.

      Prims_Lugemwa: yaaani kuna wengi wabunifu :: saayansi na teknolojiia ::
      kwa si kutumia mtaala wakikoloni kwa kizazi kipya

      Abinel: Haswaaa.

      Prims_Lugemwa: hiyo imeshapitwa na wakati

      Abinel: Kumbuka Wakoloni walitoa Elimu bure, :: TEna ile ilyo bora zaidi

      Prims_Lugemwa: yenye lengo la kumfumba macho mafrika

      Abinel: Ambayo hivi sasa wanaipa wale matajiri

      Prims_Lugemwa: na kuwa mtumwa kwao kisaikolojia

      Abinel: Na hata sera za mpango wa maendeleo ya Elimu bado haija boresha
      mitaala, :: Vipi kuhusuutumwa mambo leo :: na :: Vipi kuhusu utumwa
      mambo leo :: Nieleze zipi faida,

      Prims_Lugemwa: neti inazingua :: neti inazinguaaaaaaaaaaa :: tuendele

      Abinel: Inabidi tukomae nao :: Kwanni tatizo situnalijua

      Prims_Lugemwa: wakati wakutoa tngotongo usoni umefika :: kama kuamka
      zamabni tumeamka

      Abinel: Haswaaaaa

      Prims_Lugemwa: wakati wa kutoa tongotongo :: ndio huu

      Abinel: Tena kizazi chetu kinauwezo wa kuweka rekodi nzuri sana Afrika
      :: Ukizingatia science n techn

      Prims_Lugemwa: hatuwezi kuukwepa wakati,utandawazi hata kama una athari
      na pia faida unazo

      Abinel: Baba wa taifa alisema

      Prims_Lugemwa: je ni jisi gani tutafanikiwa :: alisemaje

      Abinel: Kukabiliaana na hali,sisi vijana tutafanikiwa :: Na si wala
      kutegemea kila kitu.

      Prims_Lugemwa: hasa ku[pitia eliimu au siyo

      Abinel: Kwani yeye walimuwezesha

      Prims_Lugemwa: elimu iwe bure Tanzania tuu :: si bure

      Abinel: Pia akajalibu kuwawezesha wengine :: Ni ngumu sana

      Prims_Lugemwa: tunaletewa teknoljia mbovu :: nasi tunakubali

      Abinel: Bado wanaoweza kibao :: Tunakubali sisi masikini

      Prims_Lugemwa: kivi[pi

      Abinel: Ambao ndio asilmia kubwa Tanzania :: Wewe uoni Wllium shule
      ambayo alisoma, :: Jina lenyewe FEZA HICH SCHOOL.

      Prims_Lugemwa: nakubali tatizo ni system si shwari

      Abinel: jaribu kuja kutazama kwa undai zaidi

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwanza kutumia lugha ya kiswahili tokwa Primary as a
      media of instruction :: upi

      Abinel: Ni watanzania wangapi ambao tupo na hatupati Elimu bora ::
      ehee,na lugha gani ambayo itatuunganisha na wageni wetu kutoka mbele mble

      Prims_Lugemwa: only international language

      Abinel: Mbona Uganga hawaugui kimpango huu

      Prims_Lugemwa: English

      Abinel: Na bado lugha za asili zipo,

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwa sababu wanaitumia toka chini :: ufundishwaji pia ::
      mwalimu mwenyewe anaogopa kuongea :: mwanafuzi atajua lini

      Abinel: Tungekuwa tunafundishwa kama Kenya au Uganda ingekuwa safi.

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwa lugha tukibadilika Tanzania tutakua mbali Afrika
      mashariki :: kukua vibaya kiuchumi :: vichwa kibao vipo

      Abinel: Tungefaahamu ni jinsi gani ya kupambana na mazingira yetu ::
      vichwa mpaka vinagaili

      Prims_Lugemwa: watu wabunifu ila ni how they can be recognised by the world?

      Abinel: Cheki maprof kibao

      Prims_Lugemwa: kibao :: na wanakesha kila siku

      Abinel: Inamaana awana uwezo wa kufanya tuchange, :: sio wanakula mapesa
      tu :: wakati watanzania tuko hoi bin taaban :: sisi ndio kizazi cha
      kesho :: tuwaambie wenzetu tuanze na UYOGA

      Prims_Lugemwa: uyoga ni kati ya organization zenye hasira TAnzania

      Abinel: Kwani tomorrow is yet coming

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwa pamoja lengo litatimia :: au unasemaje

      Abinel: Ndio :: Tunaweza kuanzisha wazo :: je una..\

      Prims_Lugemwa: lakini mabadiliko yanaanza kwetu sisi wenyewe :: lipi?\
      :: wazo nisisi kwana to be commited

      Abinel: Unaambiwa uwezi kutoa mchanga jichoni kwa mwenzako wakati wewe ...

      Prims_Lugemwa: we are real comitted? :: ndiyo :: kuwa wagunduzi ::
      wabunifu :: na ujuzi ndani yake

      Abinel: Mi nazani mawasiliano baina yetu ni muhimu :: Wapo watu wana
      profesional zao :: Na wapo kimya kama wanataga.

      Prims_Lugemwa: kuhudhuria learning centre muhimu :: kuna information za
      ajabu

      Abinel: Nazungumzia Uyoga ndani yetu :: mimi na wewe wengine je ::
      inabidi wajue kuwa kuna huduma karibu na bure

      Prims_Lugemwa: vipi time bado ipo kwanza :: kujifunza hasa ni muhim ::
      ila inabidi tuwe au niwe sacrifised :: il kuinroll wengi :: na
      tusionekane tunajalibu

      Abinel: Unaambiwa ni vyema kujifunza mengi na sio kujua kila kitu

      Prims_Lugemwa: boras kufanya kweli :: sio wakati wa kujaribu

      Abinel: Sasac mwenzio nishaanza kozi ya Computer. :: Lengo ni kutaka
      kujua na kutambua undani wake zaidi

      Prims_Lugemwa: ni moja kati ya stp ya maendeleo :: kee[p it up

      Abinel: kwani wengi sana Dunia hii wametoka. :: Cha muhimu mawasiliano
      :: kuchangia mawazo hata ktk shughuli za kimaendeleo :: wapo ambao wapo
      bush wanalima

      Prims_Lugemwa: volunteering inahitajika

      Abinel: tena ndio ambao tunawategemea ktk sekta ya msosi

      Prims_Lugemwa: na hao ndio matajiri :: ajabu Tanzania ndio masskini

      remmy: mambo vipi abinel na lugemwa

      Abinel: Sisafi lemmy vipi

      remmy: namshukuru mungu mi mzima

      Abinel: Mi nazani Uyoga tuwe wakulima

      Prims_Lugemwa: hi remmy

      remmy: kwa sasa mnaendelea na mada gani

      Prims_Lugemwa: unajua unapomzungumzia mkulima mfugaji usimsahau ::
      tulizungumzia suala lawanafuni

      Abinel: Kwani lg uwezi kufuga au kulima

      Prims_Lugemwa: tukaja miataala yake ya ajabu Tanzania

      Abinel: Si umeshapa elimu ya sayansi kilimo msingini,

      Prims_Lugemwa: na sasa ttunajizungumzia sisi jinsi gani tutaqwakilisha
      tunacho kihitaji? :: naweza

      remmy: abinel mimi napenda pia kulima

      Prims_Lugemwa: lakini si kufuga na kulima kwa hali hii :: tutaendelea
      kuwa maskini daima

      Abinel: Si wewe tu wabongo wote wakulima lemmy

      Prims_Lugemwa: si elimu ya msingi ikatosheleza

      Abinel: We baba yako anamiliki mashamba najuua kuwa ni tajiri sana

      Prims_Lugemwa: kumbuka kuna watru wanasomea mpaka vyuo :: nani

      Abinel: kujitolea mihimu :: wapo wanaomiliki mapori makubwa tu

      remmy: abi mimi nakataa wabongo sio wote wakulima

      Prims_Lugemwa: teknolojia mpya more useful na sio kuletewa miteknelojia
      yenye athari nasi tunafurahuia :: kwa nini Remmy? :: ni jinsi gani
      inavyitumika'

      Abinel: Si tulidai uhuru :: sasa nani akutoe

      Prims_Lugemwa: kumbuka rasirimali ni myuhimi kuleta manufaa kwa wotye ::
      sio tatizo kuwa huru kistaili hii

      Abinel: Lasilimali zipo na wachache ndio wanafaidika nazo

      Prims_Lugemwa: lakini je sibado tunatawaliwa na wachaache

      remmy: lugemwa unajua kwamba wabongo wengi hawapendi kulima

      Abinel: Tatizo Elimu

      Prims_Lugemwa: No

      Abinel: Sababu

      Prims_Lugemwa: Ardhi haiko shwari :: unajua vijijini maji tatizo :: hapa
      na mwenge

      Abinel: Remmy mkulima atalima kama kuna vifaanya ukweli

      Prims_Lugemwa: na mazao yanahitaji kumwagiliwa

      Abinel: Wangapi wanamiliki mamilioni wanashindwa kuendesha shughuli hizo

      Prims_Lugemwa: eneo ni kubwa lakini ni mwake kumwagilia na kulima na mkono

      remmy: asilimia nyingi niwatu wa mjini ambao hawajalelewa katika
      mazingira ya ukulima

      Prims_Lugemwa: dawa za kuulia waduudu aghali

      Abinel: Mazao matamu au sio

      Prims_Lugemwa: baada ya kuvuna hufaidiki na u7lichokilima miezi sita

      Abinel: na kama tunategemea kilimo tutakosa dawa

      Prims_Lugemwa: kivi[pi

      Abinel: Remmy unajua kwamba mjini kuna watanzania wachache sana

      Prims_Lugemwa: sekta ya kilimo ndio mama wa sekta zote :: hasa viwanda

      remmy: kwa nini

      Prims_Lugemwa: nakadhalika

      Abinel: Na ndio maana Ulaya watu wanashidwakumiliki ardhi :: Wakulima
      mbele ni matajiri kufuru,

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwa sababu malighafi zinazohitajila viwandani lazima
      zitoke shambani

      remmy: abi kunawatanzania wachache kivipi

      Prims_Lugemwa: ndio

      Abinel: Sasa mbona Tanzania mapori mengi :: Jiulize tunamikoa mingapi

      Prims_Lugemwa: kibao

      Abinel: Na ni aslimia ngapi tunaishi mijini na vijijini

      remmy: sasa mapori siyamaliasili

      Abinel: Ni wachache sana tuliofanikiwa kupata vitu vitamu yaani elimu

      Prims_Lugemwa: lakini wanafaidika wachache :: hasa tulioko mijini

      remmy: kivipi

      Prims_Lugemwa: wa kijijini hawatambui

      Abinel: Kuna watu ambao hata kiumri awajitambui

      Prims_Lugemwa: kwani wengi wao mazingira yanawabana na kutotambua umuhim
      wa elim

      Abinel: kusoma tabu kuandika usiwaulize

      Prims_Lugemwa: na ni vitu vinavyotambulisha taifa maskini

      Abinel: Hata kusoma na kuandika

      remmy: unajua luge elimu siompaka usomesana hatmitaani unaweza kupata elimu

      Prims_Lugemwa: vizazi na vifo vinavyotokea :: hasa vinazidi kushusha
      uchumi wa Taifa :: ndoyo :: kwani unataka kuniambia Remmy we ujasoma?

      Abinel: Hata weweluge umefikia wapi katika elimu_

      Prims_Lugemwa: elim thabiti ni ile itakayokuwezesha kupambana na
      mazingira yako halisi :: HIGH LEVEL :: lakini am i specific na mazingira
      yangu ,saaasa ujue nimemezeshwa

      remmy: nazani mnafahamu kwamba elimu ya mitaani sio elimurasmi

      Abinel: Unaweza kunishauri kwa kiwango kikubwa sana :: zaidi ktk maswala
      ya elimu

      Prims_Lugemwa: elimu ya sasa ni mpambano kati ya fedha na elimu ya
      kikoloni kuhimiri teknolojia

      Abinel: sasa kama unaweza unangoja nini kuwezeshwa

      Prims_Lugemwa: jinsi gani yakuhimili mikiki ya ulimwengu wa utandawazi
      ndio suala na ugumu unapoanzia

      Abinel: Luge unapozungumzia utandawazi

      remmy: lakini mimi nadhani elimu ya fedha ndio inayo weza kumsaidia
      mwanadamu

      Abinel: ndio huu ambao ayhari zake :: tumslwalie mtume

      Prims_Lugemwa: elimu ya fedha Remmy ndoi ipi?

      Abinel: sasa umeshaathiri wangapi hadi hivi sasa

      Prims_Lugemwa: kumbuka fedha ilianzishwa na wazo :: kwa ujumla hatuwezi
      kuepuka kwa kukimbia bali kuuufuata nakujua njia mbadala za kutatua ::
      athari kwa kitu kipya haiwezi kukosekana

      remmy: kamakipi

      Prims_Lugemwa: mfano kufukuzwa kwa wamachinga barabarani ni athari kwao
      lakini libidi iwe hivyo il kuondoa mzigo wa baadaye :: ni kama kutoa
      sadaka yenye uono wa mbali :: tumetekwa kifikra lakini tusikubali
      kutekwa mawazo

      remmy: kwanini wafanye hivyo wakati kwa sasa vijana wanaishi katika
      mazingira magumu

      Prims_Lugemwa: vipi mbona kimya :: sababu mawazo yakuja kila kukicha ::
      kwa sasa ni mtu mmojammoja kujiangalia yeye mwenyewe :: sabvabu
      7usitegemee fuylani atafanya hibvi :: Nyerere alisema IT CAN BE DONE
      PLAY YOUR PART

      remmy: unajua kwahalihiyo inafanya vijana waingie katika wizi na uporaji

      Prims_Lugemwa: Abi vipi :: INAWEZEKANA TIMIZA WAJIBU WAKO :: kama
      unataka kuchoma moto we iba :: zako 40 :: kwa nini usitumie njia mbadala
      :: una mikono miguu miwili jitume fanya kazi

      remmy: kama ipi labda

      Prims_Lugemwa: lazima utakua naTALENT yoyote ile hiyohiyo ndiyo itakayokutoa

      remmy: unajua kunakazi unaweza kufanya alafuusfaidike nachochote zaidi y
      kula

      Prims_Lugemwa: time yangu imeisha Remmy :: na sign out :: kwaheri

      remmy: najua kazizipo nyingi zakufanya ilaukitaka kazi yamaana ndio
      inabidiuwe namchongo :: abi vipi

      Abinel: sasa inaonekana ni jinsi gani watanzania tunaasila :: oo ::
      Remmy upo :: lg vipi tumeishia wapi kta wanafunzi :: Umejiunga na
      hakiElimuRAFIKI :: SamahaniHakiElimuRafiki
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