Barnraising at our wiki
- Tom Ochuka and all, I am very glad to hear of your good news from
Nairobi! It's exciting that so many Minciu Sodas participants will meet
up. I share my letter with some of our groups.
At the top of our websites http://www.ms.lt, http://www.worknets.org,
http://www.myfoodstory.com you can now see fresh information: "Meet with
us!" "Chat with us!" "Wiki with us!"
So we'll be able to alert our visitors to events such as the eLearning
"Meet with us! Welcome to our many friends at eLearning Africa in
Nairobi, Kenya, May 28-30"
with a link to a page with our news:
Also, you can see who has most recently edited a wiki page at
http://www.worknets.org or has most recently chatted at our webchat
I invite us all to include this latest information at our websites. You
can find it at:
and if you know PHP then you can include it in your web page using the line:
<?php include("http://www.worknets.org/archive/latestinformation.php"); ?>
and we can try other ways such as RSS.
Jeff, Sasha, Markus are all interested in a "barnraising" day (or part
of a day) where we can make progress at our wiki. A wiki is a website
whose pages anyone can edit! The best known wiki is the encyclopedia
Wikipedia. My wish is that we learn how to use the wiki and the chat.
They can complement our email groups. I suggest that we have a
"barnraising" day for each of our "worknets", starting with Jeff
Buderer's Back to the Root http://groups.yahoo.com/group/backtotheroot/
and http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?BackToTheRoot I will keep working
to improve our wiki technology and customize it for Jeff, Markus and
each of us as we wish. Jeff, what day would be good?
I also share below my chat with Markus Petz regarding his worknet
"Meaningful Inclusion" and his activities. Markus, thank you for
connecting me with Felix Bopp of the Club of Amsterdam. Also, I am
interested to meet you in northern Latvia for ARTCAMP in June 22-24 and
I look forward to learning more from you or Benesek.
Markus: Hi andrius
… hope you are well
Andrius: Hi Markus!
… Last night I came back from my travels to Austria and Hungary.
Markus: want to check status on a few things
Andrius: Thank you for your letters. Yes.
Markus: hope it was productive
Markus: Club of Amsterdam
… did you call [...]?
Andrius: I need to call today
… Thank you for reminding me.
Markus: 500 dollar check did you send?
Andrius: Not yet - I have to make sure the money is there in my bank
account. Can you cash a check?
Markus: yes I can pay it inot my bank
… OR if you have a hansa bank you can pay it direct there
Andrius: I don't understand
… we do have a hansa bank
Markus: I sent you my address
Markus: OK that is my bank so I understand you can go into the bank and
ask to be put in my HANSA bank nank account
Andrius: can your bank account accept a US check?
… I checked it can accept dollar, euro etc.
Andrius: ok I will inquire. Yes I have your address.
… then I will send you my bank details
Andrius: yes thank you
Markus: I need to write them
… its safer taht way
Markus: that way
… is anyone coming
Andrius: when is it?
Markus: If so then you shoudl liaise with benesek direct rather than me
… it is June just a mo
Andrius: the dates?
… I should be able to go
Markus: I look for exact dates
Andrius: and perhaps bring our video bridges and our musicians and artists
… where in Latvia will it be?
Markus: it will be on ytjhe borthern coast
Markus: northern coast in a livonianš place
… 22-24 June
… sorry don† have details to hand, will ask ben to forward to you
Markus: benesek is his skype name
Andrius: anything else? I have some things to discuss
Markus: next thing
… did the booklet of indep thinkers get done?
Andrius: No, it will be done through our wiki
Andrius: it is important though
Markus: that is it that I can recall
… let you get on with what you have to do
Andrius: I spoke with Franz Nahrada
Andrius: and he wants us to use the wiki more
Markus: yes a good idea I lliked th idea of a barn raising
Andrius: and in particular he said that it would be better if you used
the wiki rather than send your letters to the group where possible
… So I would customize our wiki
Markus: he has said this to me
Andrius: for your circumstances
Markus: but the wiki was not ready to be posted to
Andrius: that would be good for all of us
Markus: at the time
… so let's work together on that
… how to adapt it
… And we can have typically a barnraising for each worknet leader
Markus: I found that the foodstory.info for exampel woudl not let me
post tge pictures
Andrius: to make sure that the wiki is working well for them
… yes I have things to fix there
Markus: so I sent direct to you
Andrius: and now I will have time to do that
Andrius: yes I think maybe Sasha put them up
Markus: also events peoepl need to know
Andrius: you can ask Sasha directly for help
… yes I will try to make an events report
Markus: so for example this application for community currencies
Andrius: based on dates
Markus: a, I applying for it or not?
… I sent to John Rogers and ccd you in
… but heard no reply so far
Andrius: I don't remember now
Markus: well I need to knwo soon as we must write it
… its 3 month funded scholarship in Dublin
Andrius: did I get that letter?
Markus: I guess so
Andrius: ok I see it now
Markus: it did not bounce
Andrius: I think it's fine if many people apply
… but the chances of winning are small
Andrius: I think it would be best for us if you wrote more about your
"endeavors" - thank you for what you did write - and how they are
connected with your deepest value and investigatory question
… and that will make sure that you have a "master plan"
… that we can all support
Markus: but i do not want t oappply weakly and if john can help me write
strong one that will succeed
Andrius: rather than be scattered.
Markus: well my master plan relies on me being in a stable long term
… and then I am settled somewhere
… and that has not happend yet
Andrius: This is probably not helpful then.
Markus: everyone has their own religion and way of being
… No not really
… so until then I do other things that increase my skills portfolio and
… and also give out my thoughts and directions in many inter-relating ways
Andrius: At our lab I think it's most helpful for you and for us
Markus: I also have many cross cutting inititaives and directiopns I support
Andrius: if you think out loud about your own master plan
… what inside of yourself are you trying to manifest.
… and then you are more profoundly defined
… and you can help more profoundly
… and there is more signal and less noise
Markus: how can you define the wind and the trees
… and the interconnectedness of all succinctly
Andrius: Well, think and write more about
… meaningful inclusion
… what that means to you.
Markus: that is what I think about
Andrius: yes but you don't write so much about it
… expose your thinking!
Markus: but I write loads about interconnectedness
… and synnergies
Andrius: But I'm asking that you write about yourself
Andrius: not about ideas
… but about your own values
… clarifying them
… and what they mean to you
… and how you are accountable regarding them
… and what is opening up that you want to explore.
… Tending your own garden first!
… Then it is easier for others to accept your help.
… So for example this opportunity you mention might be very good...
… if a person knew what they truly wanted...
… but a great waste of all of our time
… if they don't.
… And if they think and write about what they truly want
… then it's a great use of time even if they don't win.
Markus: well this person wants to know how to bring into a being an
alternative to money and what has worked before
Andrius: So you see I have worked on our Endeavors this last month
Andrius: and came up with a diagram
… and that advanced my thinking
… and helps us all I think.
Markus: well when I see maybe
Andrius: And now I can look and see what I want and others want
… and I know where our lab stands
… and I can go to clients and they can meet us halfway
Markus: does it work
Andrius: and we are not lost.
… Well, I work efficiently, I think.
… And I don't lead people astray, I think.
Markus: though there is a lot of X-posting on lists
… I did a course in strategic planning
Andrius: And so I'm able to negotiate with clients for our behalf.
… Yes, let's be careful about the X-posting.
Markus: and it was quite revealling I think it could be applied to many
of our indepent thinkers LABS
… but best is if you apply it first to Meaningful Inclusion
… and show by your own example.
Markus: but it can onl;y be applied if one person facilitates it for others
… so it cannot be done as an individual
… or bot very well
Andrius: I can help respond
Markus: not very well
Andrius: but we should start with your own garden.
Markus: I can tell you more when you come to Latvija
Markus: my garden is wild
Andrius: that's your master plan I suppose?
Markus: Ok take care and I will look to apply for the Dublin thing
… can I use MS as the sending org
Andrius: ok I will share our chat or what should I take out
Markus: you can share it all
Andrius: MS is a sole proprietorship
… so it may not work
… but ask them
… and I would be interested
Markus: yes I knwo that, but the grant body wants us to be secoinded
from an NGO
Andrius: that you represent us
Markus: OK I can enquire
Andrius: in principle I support you here
… but please keep me posted as to what it means for our lab
Markus: I looked at the CC stories and saw it was rather limited
comapred with my food story
… will so
… ok ciao!
Markus: I let you call [...]
Markus: then i can progress the rest of that project
… peace and out
Andrius: ok they are closed now so I will have to call [...] tomorrow
Markus: OK pls let me know the result ASAP