Re: Minor League Hall of Fame
If we took all of the builders out who screwed hockey, the Hall of Fame would
be a lot more empty.
Bill Wirtz - saved hockey in Chicago and did more to harm hockey in the last
30 years than any man alive
Harold Ballard - if prison records don't bar one from admission, does that
mean there is room for Bruce McNall? Another way to put this is a book he
should have written: How To Take A NHL Dynasty And Turn It To A
Laughingstock And Circus Freak Show So That When I Die No One Will Know Who
Any of the Norrises. The Norris House League of the 1950s is the reason
we're even debating whether or not minor leaguers should be in the Hall.
John Ziegler. Ended the NHL-WHA war and ruled an additional 10 years based
on that singular achievement.
Frank Calder - gave us a trophy - You should see how he ran the NHL. If he
ran a bank he'd be in prison. He would yank players from one team and plkace
them on another just for the heck of it. And it didn't matter if they were
NHL or minor league. He also strong-armed the WCHL and PCHA out of business,
which turned hockey from a national sport into a regional one.
Just for starters off the top of my head...
- Henry Brabham-If it weren't for Henry thre would have been no modern ECHL
nor quite possibly would there be any of the other lower minors. He gave the
blue print for success by bankrolling most of the early league.
From: James Karkoski [mailto:austin@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [hockhist] Minor League Hall of Fame
From: James Karkoski <austin@...>
>From: RSulli7798@...Two players which I think should be in the "real" Hall of Fame are Guyle
>Here is a top 10 list of people involved in the minors who deserve "hall of
>Eddie Shore (Springfield)
>John Brophy (player-coach)
>Tom Lockhart(Eastern League president)
>Willie Marshall(American League player)
>Jody Gage(American League player)
>Scott Gruhl(IHL career goal-scoring record holder)
>Bob Chase(Voice of the Fort Wayne Komets since 1953)
>Ken Ullyot( former coach-owner of the Fort Wayne Komets)
>Jack Butterfield(Former AHL president)
Fielder and Freddie Glover. Both minor league stars in the era of the 6
As for Gage and Gruhl, I'm not sure I'd agree with them being on the
list. They were career minor leaguers in the era when that meant you were
a minor leaguer. That is if this list is for people who deserve to be in
the HoF in Toronto.
Some other coaches and managers, Hal Laycoe at Portland,Terry Reardon who
was coach and later GM at Providence and Baltimore of the AHL.Lou Pieri
who owned the Providence Reds up into the 60s.
Eddie Shore is in the Hall of Fame by the way. So is Tom Lockhart and
Jack Butterfield.As os another minor league manager, James Hendy, who was
GM of the AHL Barons for years.Bill and Bun Cook were legendary AHL
coaches who are also in the Hall of Fame as well.Frank Mathers at Hershey
is already in the Hall too. Al Leader, the long time prez of the WHL is
in as well.
Bob Chase is an excellent choice.Anybody who grew up listening to hockey
on the radio in the US would recognize Chase's voice in a minute. His
radio station, WOW had some phenomena amount of wattage which always made
a Komet's game an option for the evening.That station came in better than
most NHL radio stations.
Another possible manager might be John Mitchell who ran the Johnstown
Jets for a long time and who worked in the minors for the Red Wings for
decades. Don Hall was an excellent player for the Jets.
How about Gordie Sinclair of Seattle in the WHL. Perannial all-star who
never played in the NHL. Lucien Dechene was a goalie who played decades
upon decades in the minor, mainly in the WHL.
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- In a message dated 11/2/1999 12:27:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
<< Joe Daggett Like Bob Chase, I've never heard any of his broadcasts.
However, I remember reading a continual stream of highly
postings of his past broadcasts from Seattle to >>
-My first memory of sports on radio is Joe Daggett, for yours the person I
compared all other broadcasters to.
>From: "William Underwood" <wausport@...>Which brings to mind another one, Pat Kelly the ex-pez of the ECHL. A
>Henry Brabham-If it weren't for Henry thre would have been no modern ECHL
>nor quite possibly would there be any of the other lower minors. He gave the
>blue print for success by bankrolling most of the early league.
perenial selection to the league All-star team while being a playing
coach in the EHL he coached some of the best teams ever in that league.
That lead him into coaching in the WHA and the NHL and was involved in
the ACHL which was the forerunner of the ECHL.
- James Karkoski wrote:
> >From: "William Underwood" <wausport@...>Bill and James,
> >Henry Brabham-If it weren't for Henry thre would have been no modern ECHL
> >nor quite possibly would there be any of the other lower minors. He gave the
> >blue print for success by bankrolling most of the early league.
> Which brings to mind another one, Pat Kelly the ex-pez of the ECHL. A
> perenial selection to the league All-star team while being a playing
> coach in the EHL he coached some of the best teams ever in that league.
> That lead him into coaching in the WHA and the NHL and was involved in
> the ACHL which was the forerunner of the ECHL.
Both your suggestions are excellent. I remember when I first heard of a
new lower minor league forming to include San Diego, the plan was not to
emulate the spendthrift IHL. Instead, the ECHL was to be looked upon as
the blueprint for success. Overall, the decision proved a wise one for
the WCHL. I never expected the lower minor leagues to thrive like it
been doing, but the ECHL and those who imitated it have proven me wrong
many times over. I hope they both get into the HHOF in the builders
category. They both deserve the honor.